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[mrobbo]

Playing on PS4, and though there's definitely some performance issues, nothing's been game breaking and I'm still really enjoying it.

Yeah have to agree. After reading this thread i went into the game expecting it to be on fire (ummm) , but after 2 hours i have to say i feel the performance issues have been exaggerated just a tad. Definitely playable for the type of game it is.

My main complaint is the turning speed acceleration. If they could patch in a slider to control that i'd be fine with it.

 

[Hanmik]

according to twitter a 230mb patch is up..?

could people with problems please test this..?

oops that might be for PC...?

 

[LiK]

according to twitter a 230mb patch is up..?

could people with problems please test this..?

oops that might be for PC...?

I think it's PC patch only.

 

[Alcoholikaust]

I got a 32mb patch in my steam folder this morning...not seeing 230mb

 

[IvanJ]

Finished the game. Sure, it had some jerking and twitching, but nothing that unberarable to make me stop.
Had no crashes or similar troubles.
Guess I am partially lucky and partially indifferent to technical issues.

 

[AlphaDump]

I think I'll be fine tonight. I rarely take GAF performance impressions seriously after things like The Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 being described as "unplayable" and Bloodborne as having "shit" framerates on here.

Yeah but those are huge titles that bring that kind of shit anyway. The criticism here seems a bit more focused on specifics, and comes off as not a drive by but as confirmation of it occurring.

either way, I agree with you. I was interested in this title when I saw the initial preview, so I'll be reading closely for more impressions.

 

[VicDaMoan03]

Not sure if it's a crash or a really long load.? The into has been stuck on the "you see Julia" screen for about 5 minutes now..

Edit: wtf I reloaded and it gets stuck here again. I'm going to give it 5 - 10 minutes. Maybe it is just a really long load?

 

[thenexus6]

I finished the game in two sittings. There is constant split second stutter but it was never unplayable for me at all.

I've seen videos on youtube of peoples games hanging for seconds at a time. I had nothing like this.

The game crashed once when loading into Day

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I had to reset the game but lost no progress.

 

[The Rain King]

Not sure if it's a crash or a really long load.? The into has been stuck on the "you see Julia" screen for about 5 minutes now..

Edit: wtf I reloaded and it gets stuck here again. I'm going to give it 5 - 10 minutes. Maybe it is just a really long load?

Press something.

 

[GinoFelino]

Not sure if it's a crash or a really long load.? The into has been stuck on the "you see Julia" screen for about 5 minutes now..

Edit: wtf I reloaded and it gets stuck here again. I'm going to give it 5 - 10 minutes. Maybe it is just a really long load?

Press something.

Hahaha! Oh Lord. It's the God of War QTE thing all over again.

 

[holygeesus]

Not sure if it's a crash or a really long load.? The into has been stuck on the "you see Julia" screen for about 5 minutes now..

Edit: wtf I reloaded and it gets stuck here again. I'm going to give it 5 - 10 minutes. Maybe it is just a really long load?

lol

 

[SictorVullivan]

Not sure if it's a crash or a really long load.? The into has been stuck on the "you see Julia" screen for about 5 minutes now..

Edit: wtf I reloaded and it gets stuck here again. I'm going to give it 5 - 10 minutes. Maybe it is just a really long load?

Oh my God haha...

 

[GlamFM]

That´s so funny.

 

[VicDaMoan03]

Thanks

 

[WITHE1982]

Not sure if it's a crash or a really long load.? The into has been stuck on the "you see Julia" screen for about 5 minutes now..

Edit: wtf I reloaded and it gets stuck here again. I'm going to give it 5 - 10 minutes. Maybe it is just a really long load?

LOL! joke post...

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and a pretty good one.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

So a lot of people are like


- Only three crashes to the main screen and only one crash that freeze my ps4 and I have to take the plug and performance is between 20 and 60 but only stutters 10 times every minute and camera movement is a bit difficult and the map texture is black sometimes and there is pop-in but other than that is a great experience. Those minimal problems don't affect my enjoyment because I'm not a framerate knight.


That's my opinion: permissiveness people are ruining the medium.

Seriously.

The stuttering is one thing. Framerate drops are one thing. I can understand why some people are forgiving of these things (though they really shouldn't be, especially if they're frequent). But multiple crashes that, in many cases, break the game, forcing you to restart? Completely unacceptable.

I honestly am baffled that some people are defending this release as "fine". No, this is not fine.

 

[ced]

The performance sucks but for me it's not ruining the experience. No crashes yet, or I would be a bit more pissed.

 

[kriskrosbbk]

What's upsetting is that the developers KNEW there were issues and decided they weren't a big enough issue to THEM to perhaps hold out and fix things, regardless of how it would delay their product.

And I dont even want to start with SONY's quality control.

 

[Liamc723]

Seriously.

The stuttering is one thing. Framerate drops are one thing. I can understand why some people are forgiving of these things (though they really shouldn't be). Multiple crashes that, in many cases, break the game, forcing you to restart? Completely unacceptable.

I honestly am baffled that some people are defending this release as "fine". No, this is not fine.

Completely agree.

This is the worst performing PS4 game I have ever played.

 

[Give War A Chance]

I finished the game in two sittings. There is constant split second stutter but it was never unplayable for me at all.

I've seen videos on youtube of peoples games hanging for seconds at a time. I had nothing like this.

The game crashed once when loading into Day

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I had to reset the game but lost no progress.

Literally my exact experience. Well, except I finished in one sitting.

Same split-second stutter.
Same loading freeze on the same day.

Game is absolutely playable. People really need to stop reaching for the top shelf when they're describing bottom-shelf issues.

 

[GinoFelino]

Seriously.

The stuttering is one thing. Framerate drops are one thing. Multiple crashes that, in many cases, break the game, forcing you to restart? Completely unacceptable.

I honestly am baffled that some people are defending this release as "fine". No, this is not fine.

Don't forget that some people aren't as affected by the performance issues, due to reasons unknown to non-devs.

Refusing to believe some people have had better experiences in turn leads to them not believing those that are worse off.

Game is absolutely playable. People really need to stop reaching for the top shelf when they're describing bottom-shelf issues.

Case in point, this guy.

It's typical hyperbole. It wasn't a problem for me either in this kind of game. People like to exaggerate when they try to drive a point home, without realizing it does the exact opposite to their argument.

And this guy.

 

[Ambitious]

The developer tweeted he had finished it many times on ps4 and he wasn't bothered by the performance, but he also said that he wasn't a "pc-gamer"

"I don't care about my game's shitty performance, so neither should you"

 

[Melchiah]

Game is absolutely playable. People really need to stop reaching for the top shelf when they're describing bottom-shelf issues.

It's typical hyperbole. It wasn't a problem for me either in this kind of game. People like to exaggerate when they try to drive a point home, without realizing it does the exact opposite to their argument.

 

[Interfectum]

Almost bought this on PS4. Thanks for the heads up.

I'm about ready for devs to start migrating off of Unity Engine tbh.

 

[Liamc723]

It's typical hyperbole. It wasn't a problem for me either in this kind of game. People like to exaggerate when they try to drive a point home, without realizing it does the exact opposite to their argument.

I'm absolutely not exaggerating when I say that this is the worst performing game I've played on PS4.

The game's performance problems aren't acceptable, we need to be expecting better than this.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Don't forget that some people aren't as affected by the performance issues, due to reasons unknown to non-devs.

Refusing to believe some people have had better experiences in turn leads to them not believing those that are worse off.

I'm not even really talking about the stuttering and framerate drops. As bad as those things are, I can sort of understand why some people accept them. I wish they wouldn't, but whatever.

It's the multiple reports of hard crashes that sometimes completely break the game, forcing the user to start over, that I cannot accept.

Even if you didn't experience that yourself, no one should be ok with a game that ships in this state.

 

[Diprosalic]

I'm absolutely not exaggerating when I say that this is the worst performing game I've played on PS4.

The game's performance problems aren't acceptable, we need to be expecting better than this.

me neither. i could handle all the bad performing ps4 games so far.
but this one performs much worse than all of them. i'm not exaggerating. i just couldn't deal with it anymore so i had to make this thread to warn others.

if people are fine with this, fine. just don't make snarky comments about those who legitimately are affected by the bad performance of this game.

 

[LiK]

Crashing 3 times for an entire playthrough isn't new. I had that happen in Child of Light and that's an Ubi game. seems like the other performance issues can be annoying if you're sensitive to it. looking forward to playing it tonight.

 

[Liamc723]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPbv01oWwic

This is a big texture pop-in bug I found. People who think the game is performing okay, do you find this acceptable?

Apologies for the audio.

 

[Melchiah]

I'm absolutely not exaggerating when I say that this is the worst performing game I've played on PS4.

The game's performance problems aren't acceptable, we need to be expecting better than this.

I don't disagree with that, I disagree with it making the game unplayable.

Based on OT, Unity seems to be the source of the problem, so can it even be fully fixed?

 

[Diprosalic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPbv01oWwic

This is a big texture pop-in bug I found. People who think the game is performing okay, do you find this acceptable?

Apologies for the audio.

thanks for the video.
you do know you can just upload youtube videos from the PS4?

 

[OrbitalBeard]

It's typical hyperbole. It wasn't a problem for me either in this kind of game. People like to exaggerate when they try to drive a point home, without realizing it does the exact opposite to their argument.

Oh, since it wasn't a problem for you, it's hyperbole.

Jesus Christ.

When people, who were fine with the performance of The Witcher III and Bloodborne, are criticizing this game's performance, there's probably an issue with how this game runs.

Maybe you are accepting of it, but that doesn't make everyone else a liar.

And there are very, very few people saying this game is "unplayable", so enough with that nonsense.

 

[entremet]

I've watched a few PS4 streams and it looks solid. Maybe it's more noticeable playing it.

 

[Liamc723]

thanks for the video.
you do know you can just upload youtube videos from the PS4?

Haha forgot about that!

 

[Gbraga]

Not sure if it's a crash or a really long load.? The into has been stuck on the "you see Julia" screen for about 5 minutes now..

Edit: wtf I reloaded and it gets stuck here again. I'm going to give it 5 - 10 minutes. Maybe it is just a really long load?

Stop staring for so long, that's creepy.

 

[Hanmik]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPbv01oWwic

This is a big texture pop-in bug I found. People who think the game is performing okay, do you find this acceptable?

Apologies for the audio.

 

[Freeman76]

It's typical hyperbole. It wasn't a problem for me either in this kind of game. People like to exaggerate when they try to drive a point home, without realizing it does the exact opposite to their argument.

LoL you do realise you are doing the exact same thing dont you. Jesus passive aggressive much?

The sad thing is this thread has almost as much attention as the OT. The product suffers because Devs push a product out that needs more time to iron out a few kinks . Then people are lambasted for pointing these problems out, like THEY are the ones with the issue. This website is the holy grail of holier than though keyboard warriors, I swear it.

 

[YianGaruga]

The protagonist is just extremely nearsighted. It adds to the realism

 

[GinoFelino]

This is a big texture pop-in bug I found. People who think the game is performing okay, do you find this acceptable?

I don't know, that framerate looks pretty solid. Bunch of whiners in here.

 

[newsguy]

You don't see trees

You see trees

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You're diagnosed with early onset dementia

 

[WoolyNinja]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPbv01oWwic

This is a big texture pop-in bug I found. People who think the game is performing okay, do you find this acceptable?

Apologies for the audio.

I actually don't think that's a big deal, no. That sort of thing in no way affects my enjoyment of the game. Does that make me crazy, according to this thread apparently it does.

I'm wondering if this is an instance of older players who've dealt with much worse not being bothered by little hiccups like the above video.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

This is a big texture pop-in bug I found. People who think the game is performing okay, do you find this acceptable?

No, but I guess that happens only at this spot, so its not a that big thing for me.

 

[TechJunk]

Damn, consoles already showing their age....

 

[killertofu]

There are no refunds on PSN right?

 

[Melchiah]

Oh, since it wasn't a problem for you, it's hyperbole.

Jesus Christ.

When people, who were fine with the performance of The Witcher III and Bloodborne, are criticizing this game's performance, there's probably an issue with how this game runs.

Maybe you are accepting of it, but that doesn't make everyone else a liar.

And there are very, very few people saying this game is "unplayable", so enough with that nonsense.

So, when I talked about exaggerating, you took it as an accusation of lying. I think that in itself is hyperbole.

There's no question about it, that the game has its share of problems, but it's not the same as being unplayable, like Skyrim apparently was for some PS3 users after a certain point. The framerate in Firewatch isn't even as bad as it was in the PS3 version of Mass Effect 3's Presidium, and the canyon section of Leviathan DLC. The latter is what I might call unplayable, as aiming was very hard when the crosshair jumped from one side to another, and it was sheer luck that I managed to get through the area.

 

[mushrambio]

I'm tempted to buy it and just let it sit in my library since it's on sale for PS+ users (just 2 bucks but hey, whatever)...for such a pretty game with high reviews, I think we should give them the benefit of the doubt that they will fix the issue soon!!

 

[GinoFelino]

I actually don't think that's a big deal, no. That sort of thing in no way affects my enjoyment of the game. Does that make me crazy, according to this thread apparently it does.

I'm wondering if this is an instance of older players who've dealt with much worse not being bothered by little hiccups like the above video.

Never had any issues with pretty much any game ever, since the SNES days. I happily played Stunt Race FX at 10 fps.

This is the first game I've stopped playing due to framerate issues.

To be honest, if the framerate was fine and I only had pop-in issues, I'd be okay with that!

But this gif isn't the sole issue, of course. It's much more and much worse than only this

 

[Garrett Hawke]

Damn, consoles already showing their age....

Please be a joke post

 

[Melchiah]

I actually don't think that's a big deal, no. That sort of thing in no way affects my enjoyment of the game. Does that make me crazy, according to this thread apparently it does.

I'm wondering if this is an instance of older players who've dealt with much worse not being bothered by little hiccups like the above video.

Never had any issues with pretty much any game ever, since the SNES days. I happily played Stunt Race FX at 10 fps.

This is the first game I've stopped playing due to framerate issues.

To be honest, if the framerate was fine and I only had pop-in issues, I'd be okay with that too.

Playing something like Doom 1+2, Blood 2, and UT series on PC systems, that could barely run them, wasn't that much an issue to me either. Yes, it bothered me to some extent, but it wasn't like I couldn't play them.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

I actually don't think that's a big deal, no. That sort of thing in no way affects my enjoyment of the game. Does that make me crazy, according to this thread apparently it does.

I'm wondering if this is an instance of older players who've dealt with much worse not being bothered by little hiccups like the above video.

Nah, I'm with you here. I don't like pop-in but I'd never skip a game because of it.

Hard crashes that can break your entire playthrough? That's not worth the risk.

So, when I talked about exaggerating, you took it as an accusation of lying. I think that in itself is hyperbole.

There's no question about it, that the game has its share of problems, but it's not the same as being unplayable, like Skyrim apparently was for some PS3 users after a certain point. The framerate in Firewatch isn't even as bad as it was in the PS3 version of Mass Effect 3's Presidium, and the canyon section of Leviathan DLC. The latter is what I might call unplayable, as aiming was very hard when the crosshair jumped from one side to another, and it was sheer luck that I managed to get through the area.

Very few people are saying this! If the title of this thread was "Firewatch on PS4 is unplayable", I would agree with you. But it's not. A game doesn't have to be unplayable to be a bad experience.

The constant frame hitches are really breaking my immersion. There is significant slow down, like a new level is loading every 30-45 seconds. I am not a fps stickler for things other than multiplayer FPS or racing sims, so a story driven walking game gets a pretty big margin in my book but this has stepped over the line. It is by no means "unplayable", but the perforamce is significantly detracting from my enjoyment of the game. I am trying to immerse myself in the setting, and look around my surroundings as I slowly pace through the environments, but the tearing and frame drops are so bad, I find myself not wanting to turn my head and or explore. I walk forward and move the camera in slow increments to try to make it seem more smooth, but as a result, I am playing the game in a less satisfying and natural way. I am sacrificing gameplay because of performance issues. This is not good and I think this game should not have been released on PS4 in this state. It absolutely pains me to say that as a diehard Thumbs fan and someone who enjoys this type of game. My PS4 is adorned in Idle Thumbs stickers and I was so happy to see them launch a great game on PC and PS4, but this should only be on PC as it stands. Well I guess I can really show my support for Campo Santo and double dip on Steam.

I went in to my time with PS4 Firewatch with about as large a margin of forgiveness for any shorcomings the game may have due to my admitted personal bias for loving the dev team, but the PS4 version is unnaceptable right now. This game deserves a better showing. Otherwise I loved my time with the game, which makes these performance issues all the more frustrating. My playtime did end with a lock up during the loading of the next day though

I mean....is this hyperbole? Seems like an incredibly fair, honest critique to me.