According to some members of this board, yes.
Greenberg: Quantum Break is not coming to Steam
- Thread starter chadskin
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Not again with this shit.
Steam allows any kind of third party of DRM and Valve even offers Steam CEG as DRM.
And do you know what? 99.9% of games don't use DRM besides the Steam client check, which is not intended to stop piracy.
vpance
Member
I'm sure they wouldn't have minded staying open and being in the position that Steam is in now, but they aren't.
It's more of a ARPPU and MAU thing. MS isn't content with selling a single copy of Windows to Joe Smith every now and then, and continuously trying to hold people hostage and forcing them to upgrade their OS. The user needs to have all the software he owns tied to their locked down service where MS gets a cut of everything that's sold and the issue of solely selling yearly OS upgrades to generate revenue goes away.
Edit: Apple was playing chess 10 years ago while MS got distracted in the sandbox dicking around with Sony, lol
if that happens i will just quit gaming ... and with backlog of mine I will have normal to play even fr pension
GHG
Member
It's not about that.
I have no issues buying games on GoG, Origin, Uplay or Battle.net
It's about this:
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Yes, it's absolutely about that and there are zero valid rasons in this thread posted so far as to why Win10 comes with a lot more issues than some additional clicks.
You got it!
It's completely strong-arming for the people who actually want to play this on PC. Microsoft are trying to use the carrot and stick approach to get PC gamers on their side, but they're beating them with the stick and trying to shove the carrot up their ass instead. This should have been an olive branch, but it's instead a monkey's paw situation where if you want to play the game on PC you have to jump through the bullshit hoops of the Windows 10 store and deal with a tremendous amount of functionality that PC gamers expect being removed.
If Spencer was serious about regaining PC gamer trust, they wouldn't be doing this. Stinks of same-old arrogant Microsoft not understanding the market and thinking hubris will do the job.
3 posts above yours is a list with issues of the windows 10 store.
VincentMatts
Member
Not now, but who's to say that that's not what they ultimately want to do? What do you think the massive population would prefer? The casuals. An infrastructure that's always the same everywhere you go (like xbox one and win10) or one that's different and you have to get used to every time you use it? It's pretty obvious what they're trying to do.
Could be, but look at Rise of the Tomb Raider for example, it uses Denuvo for Steam version so there is no crack yet, if they can crack Windows Store apps i guess someone would have already done it to bring Tomb Raider to pirates and not even having to deal with Denuvo, though they didn't do that, i guess if it's crackable it is at least pretty hard and perhaps not achievable in just a few months
Of course you can if they are x86 and run Windows 10 or GNU/Linux.
If you are talking about ARM devices, nor you can run these games, despite being Universal Apps.
You are not going to run Quantum Break on a phone. You can however run Windows & Linux games on tablets should you choose to. There are tablet / convertible options plentifully available, and chances are if you are a Linux user, you are probably capable of switching out Windows for Linux. SteamPlay is a gigantically more useful feature to many than Xbox One cross-purchasing could be (which isn't even available if you are a PC gamer for Quantum Break, only the other way around). Also, should Mac suddenly change stance or have a tablet / convertible come out that does use OSX instead of iOS, suddenly you will have access to all the compatible games; one of the reasons why people like to have PC games be future proofed / flexible with SteamPlay.
Totally expected and as a result totally not interested in it for the foreseeable future. A very attractive sale or other kind of promotion later on may persuade me otherwise. It's not even not being on Steam, I totally applaud new competitors, Origin is pretty good now and Uplay is getting better, but the Windows 10 Store is just awful.
Didn't knew that Activion, Bandai Namco, Sega, Take-Two, Square Enix, Konami and Warner Bros. all had their own mandatory onlineplatforms.
Mind linking me to them?
SomethingInTheSea
Member
After the GFWL debacle can't say I'm thrilled by this, I have multiple games that simply no longer work just because they need GFWL and Microsoft can't be bothered to either support or unlock them.
I'm going to need a much bigger public statement of support for W10 store games than they've currently made before I'd be willing to spend that much money through it. At best features like overlays and slow patch releases may never be fixed and at worst they could just decide to drop that part of the store for W11 due to slow sales.
I'm going to need a much bigger public statement of support for W10 store games than they've currently made before I'd be willing to spend that much money through it. At best features like overlays and slow patch releases may never be fixed and at worst they could just decide to drop that part of the store for W11 due to slow sales.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
As long as the port is handled right then I don't really care if it's on Origin, Windows store or whatever, if I can play QB without having dropping £299 on an XB1, then all the better for me.
How gsync and freesync are affected?
Remedy, I love your games. I will not buy your game in windows store.
Yeah
I'm so fucking lazy
Unlike you, who clearly read the thread and actually understood why people are complaining
Wow. Great way to look at it.
e: Just.... Wow
e2: I keep coming back to this
Wow
Icedburden
Member
I understand that, and yes that is a touch restrictive, but you don't NEED most of that stuff. You can still play the game. It's nice to have bells and whistles, but the fact is you can get by just fine without it.
If people vote with their wallets I'm sure things will be reconsidered.
If only you didn't respond like a child. Look above you.
vasametropolis
Member
This is generally my stance as well. Even if it's a sandboxed app, as long as it's solid I probably won't care. If they screw up the solid part ever they are screwed because that's when external tools come in handy and all hell will break loose. They are definitely flirting with disaster.
VincentMatts
Member
You can if you create a psnow type service that's 100% based on streaming you can.
FunkyDealer
Banned
It's a mild inconvenience for heavy Steam users, nothing more.
I've got games spread across many services, if I want to play a game then having to use a different storefront won't stop me.
I've got games spread across many services, if I want to play a game then having to use a different storefront won't stop me.
That's right, though i actually could play Quantum Break on my tablet since i've got a Surface Pro 4, of course at low details, 720p and 25fps, and perhaps it'll be playable even on phones if the rumors about a Surface Phone with intel x86 cpu are true
I can't blame MS, plenty of consumers are buying into their "walled garden is gud" narrative.
solomon_kane
Neo Member
I'm pretty sure ROTR on windows store still has denuvo and that is the reason is also not cracked
Calling you sarcastically out on your terribly uninformed and insulting post is acting like a child? Ok bud. Whatever floats your boat.
Kurt Russell
Member
And how do you know that the Win Store version of the game doesn't have Denuvo?
If I were Square Enix and I paid to use Denuvo on a new release I'd use it with all the storefronts, not just Steam.
roadrunn3r
Member
What? Where did you read the win store version doesn't have Denuvo on it?
Let's pretend Origin, Battle.net, Uplay, GOG and Rockstar Social club don't exist.
If you don't like the Win 10 store, don't buy it. Simple as that.
Freesync is out for sure, since I believe it only supports exclusive fullscreen at this point. G-sync could work in borderless windowed mode, but at reduced performance.
Well, I guess you can call eliminating 75% of what makes PC gaming great "a touch restrictive".
GHG
Member
I can't believe what I'm reading.
So should the ability to use fraps be considered a luxury now?
iNvid02
Member
durante's bulleted list needs to be posted on every page, people seeing the thread title or skimming through might actually brush this off as "fanboys salty they cant buy/play the game on steam" and assume its just another origin/uplay scenario that they'll "get over"
but the issue here is about the nature of these universal apps, and its a much more serious one
but the issue here is about the nature of these universal apps, and its a much more serious one
You might want to actually read the thread.
Icedburden
Member
You could have responded to my post and we could have a conversation.
I understand why people are upset, I just don't agree that, as some have said, "fuck this shit". As the store grows, I'm sure these options will be available, but not supporting the store just because of a few minor details is absurd.
Right. It's just kind of hard to recognise people that think the Win10 store is like Origin and Uplay and who is fine with the walled garden.
Right, and that isn't available now and most likely requiring an extra cost
GHG
Member
It's not absurd. What is absurd is you looking at that list posted above and saying "you don't need that stuff it's just bells and whistles".
No my friend, that is not bells and whistles, that is the core of the PC gaming experience for many of us.
stan423321
Member
Driver being able to switch profiles per game is a vital option when you're using a laptop with Optimus and bad game detection, which in my arguably limited experience means 6 out of 6 Optimus laptops.
Like, seriously, I expected them to make a special hole in virtualizer for this but if they can't be bothered to implement full screen from the get go then ehhhhhhh.
Icedburden
Member
A vast majority of users don't use FRAPS, or injectors and so on. I'm not happy with it, but I get WHY you can't as of now. It needs time.
Agreed, I never said I'm 100% ok with what's happening.
No, but it in no way hurts your experience not to. Read my responses above.
It's not an "as of now" thing. It's inherent in the platform.
That's why it needs to die.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
It's their game!
If they offered it on Steam, nobody would bother with the Windows store.
The goal is getting PC gamers wrapped up in the Windows ecosystem, where they stand to make the most money.
Lol