The Omega Man
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Eurogamer: AC art used for Uncharted 4 trailer (Up: Naughty Dog responds)
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Familienoberhauptvogel
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even better would be looping it.
That is what I was about to post. They took the time to photoshop out the assassin and used the scene as a quick and dirty job. They were well aware.
Also, some people are getting confused with thinking the beautiful beach scene from the game is what is in question here. No, they ripped off art from the AC IV concept art book and used it as picture in the game.
AC IV art:
Scene in Uncharted 4:
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When Ubisoft developed this artwork, how do we know that this is not borrowed from a natural setting on some island that they took pictures of and added a pirate and a boat to it. What is the threshold of when artwork is considered original and unique. It's not like they copy and pasted the main protagonist of black flag and replaced it with Nathan Drake. I feel like there has to a high degree of originality when it comes to using a natural setting as artwork before someone can consider it as stolen. Take the division, for example. A 1 to 1 recreation of nyc. They changed all the names of all the retail store locations even though you can definitely tell when you are passing by a starbucks in the beta. If only this black flag artwork was from an island that is considered a national landmark, I wonder if that would have made a difference.
Love Deterrence
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Haha yeah. I mean just the idea that any company would go and get a license to use one picture from another game is insane. It's not like this is some famous piece of artwork or central to the game. Why the hell would they do that? Of course it was used without permission.
Hope they find the culprit within the studio and fire his ass. You get caught plaigerizing in college you get the boot it should be the same at work.
MrTroubleMaker
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wow :/
Well, this is an easter egg:
But I guess to your question it has to be an obvious (albeit somewhat hidden) recognizable reference to something else. The pic in the OP is just a piece of concept art copy-pasted into another game.
You think they did this for publicity?
XANDER CAGE
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This is an obvious eff up by ND but I am not going to get my pitch fork out. This seems like a shared asset blunder or an artist who copied his neighbors home work. That doesn't make it ok or remove any of the negativity but I do think people are overreacting.
I mean, I played the Homefront Beta a few weeks ago and it was literally Far Cry 4 reskinned. I didn't see anyone in there blasting the devs for "stealing" from Ubisoft or calling out the devs to cancel their game out of embarrassment (The game itself did that but that is not the point).
It's been brought to light and will likely be dealt with by ND. All that will be left will be these amazing Meme's and GIF's
I mean, copying the structure of a familiar game and actually using someone's art without permission are two different things. This isn't actually a *big* deal in the grand scheme of things, no, but it's egg on Naughty Dog's face.
LyleLanley
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Ubisoft gave Kotaku the old "No comment" presumably if there was some agreement between the two companies they would've said something although maybe not.
LookAtMeGo
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I get you. Its just the outrage over the stealing of artwork is what I'm finding a bit bothersome. Its probably some lazy copy paste placeholder asset or something in what is a rather tiny scene. How this got through without anyone noticing is beyond me but I'm not about to start accusing people of theft. Lazyness, sure. I just dont believe anyone at ND would be trying to pawn this off as their own.
Storm Raider
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Oh my god
Garrett Hawke
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You should've put the @Nibellion on the PIPs
about as much effort put into this as the ND artist put in
Seriously?
stufte
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dirty job. They were well aware.
Also, some people are getting confused with thinking the beautiful beach scene from the game is what is in question here. No, they ripped off art from the AC IV concept art book and used it as picture in the game.
AC IV art:
Scene in Uncharted 4:
[/QUO
When Ubisoft developed this artwork, how do we know that this is not borrowed from a natural setting on some island that they took pictures of and added a pirate and a boat to it. What is the threshold of when artwork is considered original and unique. It's not like they copy and pasted the main protagonist of black flag and replaced it with Nathan Drake. I feel like there has to a high degree of originality when it comes to using a natural setting as artwork before someone can consider it as stolen. Take the division, for example. A 1 to 1 recreation of nyc. They changed all the names of all the retail store locations even though you can definitely tell when you are passing by a starbucks in the beta. If only this black flag artwork was from an island that is considered a national landmark, I wonder if that would have made a difference.
Come on now. I think the inclusion of the concept was an honest mistake, but the concept art and the painting in the trailer are the exact. same. art. They took a concept from assassins creed. This is not debatable.
This is an obvious eff up by ND but I am not going to get my pitch fork out. This seems like a shared asset blunder or an artist who copied his neighbors home work. That doesn't make it ok or remove any of the negativity but I do think people are overreacting.
I mean, I played the Homefront Beta a few weeks ago and it was literally Far Cry 4 reskinned. I didn't see anyone in there blasting the devs for "stealing" from Ubisoft or calling out the devs to cancel their game out of embarrassment (The game itself did that but that is not the point).
It's been brought to light and will likely be dealt with by ND. All that will be left will be these amazing Meme's and GIF's
I hear you. I am not getting my pitchfork out, either. I am just calling a spade a spade, but still think that UC4 will easily be one of my games of the year.
I mean, it was obviously ripped off and had the pirate shopped out. As such, it was called out accordingly by Alex at Ubi. Again, it is what it is.
Bits N Pieces
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Booooooo. Booooooo this person.
Apparently so.
Good point. They're just good lookers as far as I'm concerned. Nothing more.
They may have had the ok from Ubi to use this or have they just flat out stolen it?
CosmicGroinPull
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Naughty Dog: Wizards at graphics, storytelling and gameplay. Has trouble finding free stock images. Big fans of Ellen Page.
Primethius
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For reals. It's the exact same piece.
Agreed, I don't see how this is an easter egg. Those should be, like you said, somewhat recognizable. I don't see how anyone would see this is a AC easter egg, it looks like a generic piece of artwork.
ShockingAlberto
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Art theft isn't theft when I like one person and dislike the victim.
GIANKRATOS
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Yes, and than they proudly showed that in the trailer. Naughty dog is becoming arrogant!
Lol
This is going to be one of those people that freaks out when the game gets a couple less than stellar scores.
Ah fuck; someone already beat me using that exact gif response!
Did you pay licensing fees to use that response?
Unknown?
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I'm just saying whether they did or not it's making a bigger splash than if they hadn't. It's not like anyone cares anyway, just a few, but most people won't be bothered to remember it in a few days after it has blown over.
Quite possible. He's probably just a fan of pirates and pirate themed games.
LyleLanley
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Nathan Drake being a gamer would be a much worse problem than Naughty Dog stealing some concept art.
ShockingAlberto
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Do you think Ubisoft is proud of Naughty Dog
Depends on who they is. The guy who inserted this picture in obviously stole it on purpose.
If by they you mean ND as a studio, obviously they didn't get together, laugh maniacally and plot to steal one piece of artwork from an AC artbook.
TemplaerDude
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Pretty scummy thing to do, though inevitably blown out of proportion on here since you guys all put ND on some untouchable pedestal.
Hopefully someone takes responsibility for this and apologizes.
Hopefully someone takes responsibility for this and apologizes.
LordOcidax
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This thread is evolving even more. lolol
Now put Joel reacting to Antonio Banderas reacting in there and the circle will be complete.
it's okay to steal if you're cool and popular
To the people mocking others who are supposedly "defending" ND:
When you guys have someone at your company who does something shady or underhanded and it slips by you do you say "fuck my entire company sucks and so do I! "?
If ND doesn't change this picture and fire the guy who did it though? I will 100% put that on ND as a studio.
When you guys have someone at your company who does something shady or underhanded and it slips by you do you say "fuck my entire company sucks and so do I! "?
If ND doesn't change this picture and fire the guy who did it though? I will 100% put that on ND as a studio.
Agreed. Just change the image, fire the individual responsible and call it 'a thief's end.'
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