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[Bumbletron]

You don't even have to read it. You just have to use common sense.
If this was a blatant advocacy for child pornography:
1. She wouldn't have mentioned it in her profile
2. And far more important: It wouldn't have been published for fucks sakes.

Censoring academic discourse because it tackles topics that make people uncomfortable is a sad dystopia.

Heck I've written a paper about marital rape and the reform of §177 StGB in German criminal law and of course I have listed the (nonsensical) points people made to keep marital rape legal. I'm sure this could somehow be used out of context too.

Your boss will be hearing of this, I assure you. I await action by Monday, or else.

Seriously though, there are some bizarre actions being taken in academic settings towards any taboo issue. Critical thinking seems to be of less and less import to people nowadays. Oftentimes your advisor/department chair has no issue at all with your thesis, but it won't stop outsiders from getting upset that you even dare to talk about the issue in the first place. It's as though even bringing it up is an affront.

 

[QuixoticNeutral]

With him? Nothing. Now with his position at Nintendo...

For those confused, my guess is that this is just someone who broadly opposes the concept of localization.

 

[L Thammy]

What the fuck.

Is there a GG playbook somewhere in the dark depths of the internet, or like a bootcamp or some shit? It's amazing that literally every thread dealing with any topic related to GG is just inundated with people saying "I don't know what's going on, but the victim seems at fault here, by the way (gamergate talking point)"

It's like the goddamn clone wars. Where do these people come from?

Last I checked, yes. There are frequently images posted explaining exactly how to carry out a particular attack, how to avoid having a clear position when questioned, etc.

 

[RopeSnake]

what's wrong with his position at nintendo?

Let's just say, I think Nintendo of America needs a major rework, starting with the president and the marketing department.

Sorry if I'm being too critical but Bill Trinen isn't looking good on my list recently

 

[Alucrid]

Let's just say, I think Nintendo of America needs a major rework, starting with the president and the marketing department.

Sorry if I'm being too critical but Bill Trinen isn't looking good on my list recently

that's quite worrying. who else is on your list?

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Is there a GG playbook somewhere in the dark depths of the internet, or like a bootcamp or some shit? It's amazing that literally every thread dealing with any topic related to GG is just inundated with people saying "I don't know what's going on, but the victim seems at fault here, by the way (gamergate talking point)"

It's like the goddamn clone wars. Where do these people come from?

The have their own subreddit as well as a few other sites. They probably game this campaign of harassment some goofy-ass name like "Operation Snuggle" or something while posting Death Note stills

 

[Kinsei]

Wait, what's wrong with his position? Seems fine to me.

I think Rope Snake is implying that since Bill is her boss and would therefore know about her thesis that he'll be fired alongside her when she's fired. It's completely ridiculous. Both that she'll be fired and that he'll be fired.

EDIT: I guess not?

 

[Scientist Supreme!]

RopeSnake, do you really not have anything to do today?

Besides whatever this is.

 

[Crossing Eden]

Is that Jamie Walton a chick? Wtf? Don't know much about GG, but I always heard that they were all (guys) neckbeards?


....unless she has a hidden neckbeards? Damn, that's crazy tho.

It seems she was fed a bunch of absolutely false information and ran with it without actually verifying where that info was coming from or if it was true.

 

[Geg]

Let's just say, I think Nintendo of America needs a major rework, starting with the president and the marketing department.

Sorry if I'm being too critical but Bill Trinen isn't looking good on my list recently

lol

 

[DNAbro]

Let's just say, I think Nintendo of America needs a major rework, starting with the president and the marketing department.

Sorry if I'm being too critical but Bill Trinen isn't looking good on my list recently

explain. you can't say it needs to change without saying why.

 

[Brakke]

I think the only worthwhile post RopeSnake's made here was the suggestion to make use of the ignore function.

 

[Kissenkopf]

What the fuck is going on here?

Oh, how much I hate the internet sometimes.

 

[Hale-XF11]

Smells like libel.

 

[Theanine3D]

If everyone got vetted or fired for the things they wrote back in college, the unemployment rate would skyrocket.

She doesn't deserve to be fired over something she wrote so long ago and has absolutely nothing to do with her job.

 

[Zeyphersan]

I will buy everyone who is not looking good on RopeSnake's list a drink

 

[Gattsu25]

Enough said

http://i.imgur.com/AxoMF91.gif[IMG][/QUOTE]

[quote="RopeSnake, post: 197302061"]With him? Nothing. Now with his position at Nintendo...[/QUOTE]
[quote="RopeSnake, post: 197302361"]Let's just say, I think Nintendo of America needs a major rework, starting with the president and the marketing department.

Sorry if I'm being too critical but Bill Trinen isn't looking good on my list recently[/QUOTE]
I figuratively [I]literally[/I] figuratively have no idea what you are even hinting at. I'm not being facetious either. I have no idea what the passive aggressive insinuation is

:boggle:

 

[cws]

Miserable human beings trying to make the life for other people miserable as well.. Just sad.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

For those confused, my guess is that this is just someone who broadly opposes the concept of localization.

My best guess is that this poster believes because she works at Treehouse, in PR, and Bill is her boss (probably not even direct supervisor) then she of course has his ear for all censorship recommendations. Despite writing an 127 page thesis arguing censorship does nothing to resolve the real issue of child abuse.

 

[Platy]

Is that Jamie Walton a chick? Wtf? Don't know much about GG, but I always heard that they were all (guys) neckbeards?


....unless she has a hidden neckbeards? Damn, that's crazy tho.

She is the creator of an ONG with Kevin Smith and she received lots of spam and believed on it without checking.

She is nowhere close a gamergater and aparently already saw that she was wrong ?

 

[SolicitorPirate]

I will buy everyone who is not looking good on RopeSnake's list a drink

I feel I deserve two

 

[Fat4all]

I don't like ignoring people, I'd rather be able to have clear discussion with folks whether or not I agree with them or argue with them.

 

[tebunker]

I will buy everyone who is not looking good on RopeSnake's list a drink

I need someone to post the Steve Buschemi / Billy Madison gif now... NOW... I would if I could...

 

[marrec]

I don't like ignoring people, I'd rather be able to have clear discussion with folks whether or not I agree with them or argue with them.

You mean you're for open discussion of perhaps controversial issues?

Can't wait for GG to target you, cause that's why they're targeting Rapp.

 

[RopeSnake]

that's quite worrying. who else is on your list?

Reggie, I firmly believe he needs to move onto new career endeavors.

 

[Dimmle]

Sorry if I'm being too critical but Bill Trinen isn't looking good on my list recently

It's hard to find good names to complement our lists. It's a very common problem.

 

[Cheerilee]

I wouldn't be surprised if Gamergate has ruined more lives than pedophilia.

Anyone trying to make an argument for their side (definitely including Jamie Walton) is probably more worthy of being fired than this woman (who ironically would probably try to defend your right to free speech).

 

[Nanashrew]

Let's just say, I think Nintendo of America needs a major rework, starting with the president and the marketing department.

Sorry if I'm being too critical but Bill Trinen isn't looking good on my list recently

Bill isn't really the president. He's one of the original Treehouse members on the localization team and translates for Miyamoto all the time.

Are you thinking of Reggie Fils-Aime?

 

[RopeSnake]

explain. you can't say it needs to change without saying why.

Do I really need to? C'mon.

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

Surprised the mods haven't stepped in yet. You'd think we'd be seeing an ocean of gray by now.

 

[the_batman]

I don't like ignoring people, I'd rather be able to have clear discussion with folks whether or not I agree with them or argue with them.

yeah, i hate it when people just spit venom at each other instead of trying to understand their viewpoints.

 

[Codeblue]

What accusations? Did you read her thesis? If not, then do it.

Yeah, I read what was posted here. Not sure if that was the whole thing or only a part of it.

I think you're accusing her of advocating for the legalization of child pornography at worst or relaxing the laws of child pornography at best. If that's your position then you either didn't read the paper or have fundamentally misunderstood the point, since it was much more about cultural relativism and whether or not our child pornography laws are built on arguments so sound that we should try to impose them on other countries.

And in any case, like people have repeated here, this was a college paper. I once argued that steroid use in high school sports should be legal under the value of entertainment. Even if there was anything objectionable there, I wouldn't judge her character on it.

 

[TwEE-N-Toast]

i don't know what gamergate quite is and i haven't been involved in that discussion. or the fire emblem discussion. i don't know who this woman is or know about any agenda against her. But if she is arguing in favor of lowering age of consent (which is where i imagine the pedo comments come from?) and laxer porn laws, and also arguing in favor of "depictions of sexualized minors", would Nintendo really want someone like that to represent their company?

Do I or have I grossly misinterpreted something from those tweets? i'm seriously asking, i'm honestly not in the know about gamergate and i don't have a pitchfork hunting anyone or anything.

Well if gamergate is against lowering the age of consent then lower we must!


What a weird thread topic, everybody seems crazy.

 

[RopeSnake]

Bill isn't really the president. He's one of the original Treehouse members on the localization team and translates for Miyamoto all the time.

Are you thinking of Reggie Fils-Aime?

I know Bill isn't the president. He's the marketing manager now.

 

[DNAbro]

Do I really need to? C'mon.

Yes? If you say something that's controversial at least give a reason for it.

 

[marrec]

I wouldn't be surprised if Gamergate has ruined more lives than pedophilia.

This type of hyperbole isn't needed.

Gamergate are vile enough without being needlessly compared to the damage child pornography has done.

 

[Beatofficer]

I wouldn't be surprised if Gamergate has ruined more lives than pedophilia.

Anyone trying to make an argument for their side (definitely including Jamie Walton) is probably more worthy of being fired than this woman (who ironically would probably try to defend your right to free speech).

While you're probably being hyperbolic, you can't compare something that's been devastating children for hundreds of years to something that's been around for two years.

 

[HUELEN10]

I wouldn't be surprised if Gamergate has ruined more lives than pedophilia.

Really? Really?

I know emotions and opinions are running high, I know there is a lot of ugliness going on about this, but please think about what you just said.

 

[Cranster]

Her views whether they are old or current as disturbing as they sound, she does not deserve this kind of harassment from Gamergate.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Are we posting Nixon-like enemy lists now

 

[Brakke]

I will buy everyone who is not looking good on RopeSnake's list a drink

You know at the beginning of the Inferno when Dante gets to the first circle of Hell and finds al the righteous pagans and it's a dope party with like Ovid and Homer and Plato just chillin' and that place is clearly cooler than whatever's up in Heaven? Pretty sure RopeSnake's list is like that.

 

[Puruzi]

Surprised the mods haven't stepped in yet. You'd think we'd be seeing an ocean of gray by now.

someone did banned already

 

[marrec]

Are we posting Nixon-like enemy lists now

*lets his scroll unfurl and roll across the room, banging against the opposite wall*

Let's start with the numerals before getting to Alphabetical.

 

[BUNTING1243]

Man, what are the odds that yet ANOTHER seemingly unrelated female game industry employee with anti-GG leanings was secretly behind an elaborate censorship campaign. These internet detectives are unparalleled.

And they always seem to have this deep dark secret that only exists if you can take a brave leap of logic! Amazing!

Fucking garbage people

 

[Jobbs]

Ugh, gross post.

How exactly is it a gross post?

The harassment, like I said -- very real harassment -- she receives is not something I condone or would ever encourage anyone to do. Ever.

But she has made the most of it. I don't know where all this is headed yet regarding this topic, but I suspect it could end up raising her profile and empowering her (at least in some ways).

Another example is Anita, who people treat horribly and who has undeniably had her profile raised by it.

Is there currently a boycott on subtlety/thought before replying on gaming side that was enacted without my noticing? First the Unity thread now this.

 

[Alucrid]

Reggie, I firmly believe he needs to move onto new career endeavors.

how would you rank the two people on your list, reggie and bill?

 

[Scientist Supreme!]

yeah, i hate it when people just spit venom at each other instead of trying to understand their viewpoints.

What is your opinion on this topic?

Well if gamergate is against lowering the age of consent then lower we must!


What a weird thread topic, everybody seems crazy.

What are you trying to get at?

 

[gogosox82]

Do I really need to? C'mon.

Yes. When your having an discussion with someone, it is usually preferable actually know what the hell the other person is talking about so you can actually communicate with them better. Saying you want the President and entire marketing team of NoA replaced without any reason whatsoever seems more than a bit daft. We shouldn't have to guess to figure out what exactly is your issue with NoA is.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

How exactly is it a gross post?

The harassment, like I said -- very real harassment -- she receives is not something I condone or would ever encourage anyone to do. Ever.

But she has made the most of it.

Another example is Anita, who people treat horribly and who is undeniably had her profile raised by it and benefited from it.

Is there currently a boycott on subtlety/thought before replying on gaming side that was enacted without my noticing? First the Unity thread now this.

You think she'd rather have the life without harassment or nah

 

[RopeSnake]

Yes? If you say something that's controversial at least give a reason for it.

I don't think it's controversial to disagree with the choices Nintendo of America has made, it's just my personal opinion after all.

This is off topic btw. I think I overreacted a bit