Gamergate convinced an anti-sex trafficking org to join crusade against NoA employee

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Are we posting Nixon-like enemy lists now

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This type of hyperbole isn't needed.

Gamergate are vile enough without being needlessly compared to the damage child pornography has done.

I was thinking in terms of numbers, not severity. And only going back as far as the creation of Gamergate.

But you're right, it was a bit too hyperbolic.
 
One of these days when I feel like wasting my time I'm going to compile how many new accounts post in GG topics versus other ones
 
You think she'd rather have the life without harassment or nah

When the hell exactly did I say otherwise?

I LIKE Alison Rapp. I follow her on twitter. I have for months. I have no argument with her. I've watched her use these dummies to garner support. I'm speaking to her credit. I'm pro Alison.
 
How exactly is it a gross post?

The harassment, like I said -- very real harassment -- she receives is not something I condone or would ever encourage anyone to do. Ever.

But she has made the most of it. I don't know where all this is headed yet regarding this topic, but I suspect it could end up raising her profile and empowering her (at least in some ways).

Another example is Anita, who people treat horribly and who is undeniably had her profile raised by it and benefited from it.

Is there currently a boycott on subtlety/thought before replying on gaming side that was enacted without my noticing? First the Unity thread now this.
You're missing the context of previous gamergate threads. People labeled Zoë and Anita as opportunists to make them look bad saying they are in it for the money.
 
Out of curiousity, how old is Gamergate's anime girl mascot? The one that they inevitably ended up making the star of tons of hentai?

Same.

Sounds like a pissing contest between undergrads who have nothing better to do.

Probably less important than that tbh.

I don't know anything about this topic, but I'm pretty sure that I'm better than everyone who does.
Every thread.
 
How exactly is it a gross post?

The harassment, like I said -- very real harassment -- she receives is not something I condone or would ever encourage anyone to do. Ever.

But she has made the most of it. I don't know where all this is headed yet regarding this topic, but I suspect it could end up raising her profile and empowering her (at least in some ways).

Another example is Anita, who people treat horribly and who has undeniably had her profile raised by it.

Is there currently a boycott on subtlety/thought before replying on gaming side that was enacted without my noticing? First the Unity thread now this.
Ew
 
I don't think it's controversial to disagree with the choices Nintendo of America has made, it's just my personal opinion after all.

This is off topic btw. I think I overreacted a bit

Ah yes, "the choices"

Seriously this is like the third or fourth post in a row where you've given a vague and cryptic non-answer
 
When the hell exactly did I say otherwise?

I LIKE Alison Rapp. I follow her on twitter. I have for months. I have no argument with her. I've watched her use these dummies to garner support. I'm speaking to her credit. I'm pro Alison.

Your last post is kind of suspect in light of the whole situation.
 
Out of curiousity, how old is Gamergate's anime girl mascot? The one that they inevitably ended up making the star of tons of hentai?

When she was first created she was specifically created as "underaged" by /pol/ because they wanted to piss off as many people as possible. It's since been retconned to be of age.
 
Yes. When your having an discussion with someone, it is usually preferable actually know what the hell the other person is talking about so you can actually communicate with them better. Saying you want the President and entire marketing team of NoA replaced without any reason whatsoever seems more than a bit daft. We shouldn't have to guess to figure out what exactly is your issue with NoA is.

My main issue with Nintendo of America is how they've been handling the localization of Wii U, 3DS and the VC.

No, this is not about censorship, I couldn't care less about it. But then you see NoA making some horrible marketing choices like releasing games months after NoE and NoJ and not even bothering to promote them, it's hard to support that. The Virtual Console is another thing that pisses me off, compare our VC to Europe and Japan and then tell me what you think.
 
Nintendo could use this as an opportunity to directly address GG to condemn this kind of behaviour but Nintendo's PR horn will stay silent on this kind of issue, I bet.
 
Its funny. I remember, at one point, the claim was that this was about honesty in game journalism. Sure, it came years after Jeff Gertsman (sp?) got fired from Gamespot for giving Kane and Lynch a bad review, but still. Then, you scratch past the surface and you find what its really all about. *sigh*

I hope Alison makes it out ok. I hope NoA doesnt react to this situation "to save face" because of these falsities.

Additionally, it would be nice that for once, a large seething mass like this actually did something good, like I dont know, pool their vast amounts of free time and energy to solve world hunger, global warming, stop ISIS, etc. You know, instead of being the radiant abyss that it is.
 
The topic of this thread.

hmm, well learning about it from this thread i just think it's kind of unusual for someone who has talked publicly about relaxing cp laws and age of consent to be with Nintendo since when i think of Nintendo, i think of family and kids having fun with video games. i don't think there's enough for a firing though.
 
Let's hope saner heads prevail and that this misinformed organization can be updated on gater's real objective and distance themselves accordingly.
 
To this day I still don't really know what GamerGate is.

Same.

Sounds like a pissing contest between undergrads who have nothing better to do.

Probably less important than that tbh.

It's about ethics in games journalism duh. /s

Nah it seems to be about harassing women on the internet because they want more representation in games and more fair treatment in the industry. Some people can't handle that idea
 
Honestly it was only a matter of time until something like this happened. She's been a huge issue for quite a while. Not saying that I agree or disagree with anything she's been advocating, I just think it's really unprofessional of her to be talking about this stuff through her open social media channels while working for a company with a serious family-friendly image to keep up. When you work for a company like that, especially in a high-profile public-facing position such as hers, you're representing them everywhere you go and with everything you do. If you want to talk about politics or discuss some kind of controversial topic, you need to keep it private so you don't accidentally misrepresent your company. It's just asking for stuff like this to happen.

You don't see Phil Spencer up on Twitter arguing with nerds about politics because he, while running his own personal account, knows that he needs to keep it professional. While he's on a completely different level than she is, the logic still applies.
 
My main issue with Nintendo of America is how they've been handling the localization of Wii U, 3DS and the VC.

No, this is not about censorship, I couldn't care less about it. But then you see NoA making some horrible marketing choices like releasing games months after NoE and NoJ and not even bothering to promote them, it's hard to support that. The Virtual Console is another thing that pisses me off, compare our VC to Europe and Japan and then tell me what you think.

How long do you think loc takes?
 
GG advocates wonder why everyone distances themselves from this shitstorm. They accuse and condemn the aGGros for this exact behavior, and then do exactly the same thing.
 
How exactly is it a gross post?

The harassment, like I said -- very real harassment -- she receives is not something I condone or would ever encourage anyone to do. Ever.

But she has made the most of it. I don't know where all this is headed yet regarding this topic, but I suspect it could end up raising her profile and empowering her (at least in some ways).

Another example is Anita, who people treat horribly and who has undeniably had her profile raised by it.

Is there currently a boycott on subtlety/thought before replying on gaming side that was enacted without my noticing? First the Unity thread now this.

You can't say "she comes out of this with a big win and a lot of gain" without severely discounting the effect of harassment. You're making a value judgment that completely discounts the actual opinions of the person being harassed. "You got famous so you should be happy"

Ugh.
 
Nintendo could use this as an opportunity to directly address GG to condemn this kind of behaviour but Nintendo's PR horn will stay silent on this kind of issue, I bet.

Nintendo the company might have trouble doing that but I'd love it if they did. But the staff of Nintendo do condemn GG and support those who GG go after.
 
What in the fuck? People should have licenses to use the Internet. It's time to start screening who has access to it. God dammit this gamer gate bullshif needs to go away already. Pathetic, misogynositc kids with low self-esteem getting all brave behind the anonymity of the Internet.
 
You can't say "she comes out of this with a big win and a lot of gain" without severely discounting the effect of harassment. You're making a value judgment that completely discounts the actual opinions of the person being harassed. "You got famous so you should be happy"

Ugh.

You're reading into my post a lot of stuff I didn't do or say.

When I say -- She's going to come out of this ahead -- I'm speaking to her credit and I'm sticking it to the Gamergate morons. You don't have to guess what side I'm on. I'm telling you what side I'm on. I have never had a negative thought towards Alison Rapp. She seems really cool.
 
That and the localization decisions Treehouse has made that some have found to be not only bad, but a butchering of the original Japanese script.

This and the boob slider and underage bikini removal on Xenoblade Chronicles X and similar removals in Fatal Frame 5 have led some to believe that there are individuals in NoA responsible for Nintendo ruining their pure Japanese experiences and inserting their SJW agendas into said games.

Some people, man.

It's funny, because here in Japan, I'm constantly arguing that that shit is in the game only to pander to the otaku crowd, and hurts the developer's integrity.
 
You don't see Phil Spencer up on Twitter arguing with nerds about politics because he, while running his own personal account, knows that he needs to keep it professional. While he's on a completely different level than she is, the logic still applies.

I think it's bad that people's voices get taken away because of corporate interests. I get it that it comes with the job but having to toe the company line even in your free time sounds horrible.
 
What in the fuck? People should have licenses to use the Internet. It's time to start screening who has access to it. God dammit this gamer gate bullshif needs to go away already. Pathetic, misogynositc kids with low self-esteem getting all brave behind the anonymity of the Internet.
They aren't even brave, saying stupid misogynistic shit while hiding behind anonymity isn't even remotely brave. They're cowards.
 
They didn't even localize Xenoblade Chronicles (the first one)

and what kind of localization Yoshi's Woolly World needed? Or the countless VC games? Like the infamous Metroid Zero Mission VC release?

I don't know if you really know how localization works, but there's a lot more effort involved in the localization process than just changing the language of the game. It takes months and the game could have been well and done before then.
 
Anyone who thinks the views expressed in that thesis aren't controversial is completely out of touch with reality. Sickening stuff, especially if you're a parent.
 
How exactly is it a gross post?

The harassment, like I said -- very real harassment -- she receives is not something I condone or would ever encourage anyone to do. Ever.

But she has made the most of it. I don't know where all this is headed yet regarding this topic, but I suspect it could end up raising her profile and empowering her (at least in some ways).

Another example is Anita, who people treat horribly and who has undeniably had her profile raised by it.

Is there currently a boycott on subtlety/thought before replying on gaming side that was enacted without my noticing? First the Unity thread now this.

Wow, you're on a roll with the bad opinions.

First the DOA male thread and now this comment.
 
Skimmed the thesis, but from what I gathered she would actually be the last person to advocate for censorship on a product from Japan, as such methods (she believed at one time) dont a trully solve the core problem of pedophilia /sex trafficking.

So what is GG bitching about re: her and Fire Emblem? Seems more likely that she would have been the sole voice of reason in a Treehouse version of 12 Angry Men trying to patiently explain why the localization changes were bad ideas.
 
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