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[nkarafo]

Oh cmon you really don't think this movie is under a microscope because it's a reboot AND the fact it stars women?

The fact that they are all women makes it impossible for them to be Venkman, Stanz, Spenkler, Zedmore. That's the problem. A couple of these original characters at least should be able to return. Because its Ghostbusters. Just because the original cast can't do it, it doesn't mean newer gen actors can't try it.

 

[Nuova]

Looks absolutely terrible. Political correctness strikes again

 

[Deleted member 1235]

ugh. saw the trailer at work at we all said 'wow that looks like ghostbusters!'

20 pages of gaf saying it's the worst

How about instead of shoehorning these actors into an established franchise, you write a brand new movie for the 4 of them that people will look back on in 30 years and say shit like "Remember X? That was awesome and original"

established franchise....
ghostbusters 2 released in 1989.
"Women are not allowed to make remakes in hollywood, they are only allowed to do new movies because sexism!"
oh hey look, i made something sound sexist even though not everything is sexist just like you did.

awesome and original movies like.... SPY... or The Heat or Bridesmaids? Which all star women, are funny and original and all scored fresh on rottentomatoes (with bridesmaids and spy at or above 90%)?

Of all the times to try and drop some sexism and prejudice claims, it's on Paul Feig who basically makes his entire career in movies directing great movies starring women also exclusively women as the main characters.

The criticism is largely a load of horseshit so far best I can tell. They nailed the look, the sets the sound the sfx, pretty much everything. But it isn't exactly the 1989 ghostbusters 1 movie.

Fanboy drivel is just such nonsense.

Looks absolutely terrible. Political correctness strikes again

I mean what the fuck is this

 

[nkarafo]

Women are not allowed to make remakes in hollywood, they are only allowed to do new movies because sexism.

What the heck you talking about?

The criticism is largely a load of horseshit so far best I can tell. They nailed the look, the sets the sound the sfx, pretty much everything. But it isn't exactly the 1989 ghostbusters 1 movie.

Fanboy drivel is just such nonsense.

1984.

And i disagree, they didn't "nail" anything, it looks more like a Scooby Do sequel to me.

 

[doop_]

Trailer was a bit too long.
Looks ayt though.

 

[Not]

Looks absolutely terrible. Political correctness strikes again

Jesus Christ. Careful how you proceed around these parts.

At least everybody else is tap dancing around the issue.

Do you want to have a PM discussion about why "political correctness" isn't a thing that's actually going to make your life (I'm assuming white and male) worse?

 

[Deleted member 1235]

What the heck you talking about?

read the line directly under the line you quoted again for a fairly succinct explanation of what the heck I'm talking about. while responding to the person I quoted. (but I edited a bit for clarity. it's early)

 

[Sage00]

Nice try with the all female cast (genuinely, token racism in the casting aside it's a bold idea), but this just looks awful sorry. I'd have an easier time convincing myself that Metroid game is going to be good.

 

[nkarafo]

read the line directly under the line you quoted again for a fairly succinct explanation of what the hell I'm talking about. while responding to the person I quoted.

I'm pretty sure most people don't like the all female cast because this way none of the original characters can be in. I'm talking about the fictional characters that are established as the Ghostbusters. That's Peter, Ray, Egon and Winston. It's not that women can't make remakes, it's that it's impossible for them to be any of these characters. IMO, at least a couple of those should be in the movie (and i'm not talking about the original cast). The fact than none of the original characters exist is the problem most people are complain about.

 

[Beefy]

I'm pretty sure most people don't like the all female cast because this way none of the original characters can be in. I'm talking about the fictional characters that are established as the Ghostbusters. That's Peter, Ray, Egon and Winston. it's not that women can't make remakes, it's that it's impossible to be any of these characters. IMO, at least a couple of those should be in the movie. And i'm not talking about the original cast.

Isn't it meant to be a reboot? Not a sequel? They decided to not try and reboot the old ones but instead did a completely different take on Ghostbusters.

 

[The Albatross]

Looks terrible for something called Ghostbusters. If it were called Scooby Doo and the Ghosts in NYC I'd be fine with it.

 

[Not]

I'm pretty sure most people don't like the all female cast because this way none of the original characters can be in. I'm talking about the fictional characters that are established as the Ghostbusters. That's Peter, Ray, Egon and Winston. it's not that women can't make remakes, it's that it's impossible to be any of these characters. IMO, at least a couple of those should be in the movie. And i'm not talking about the original cast.

Would you be upset if the new cast all had "female-ized" versions of the original cast's names? Like Patricia Venkman or what have you?

And I'd bet you, like the poster above demonstrates, the real reason most men don't like it is because "political correctness" undermines their representational positions of authority in entertainment.

Characters don't have to be defined by their gender.

 

[nkarafo]

Isn't it meant to be a reboot instead of a sequel?

Sure but if someone doesn't like the idea that non of the old characters are in, doesn't make him sexist or racist.

Would you be upset if the new cast all had "female-ized" versions of the original cast's names? Like Patricia Venkman or what have you?

I'm not upset. I just don't care about the new characters. I'd prefer it if it was a mixed cast of old characters and a couple of the new ones.

 

[Grinchy]

I remember seeing similar different opinions when the first Jurassic World Trailer hit.

Does this mean Ghostbusters will be the surprise success of the summer?

Probably.

That's not a very optimistic comparison. Jurassic World was one of the worst movies of 2015.

 

[Merc_]

So this movie looks to be engaging in white feminism. Good old Hollywood.

 

[vinnygambini]

omg the dislikes bar on YouTube

not the best trailer, but Spy didn't look too good either and that one was a funny

 

[nkarafo]

Characters don't have to be defined by their gender.

I agree.

But i still believe most people would rather see at least a couple of the original canon characters, being played by new actors if the original cast can't do it. The rest could still be female/new ones. That's how i'd prefer it and that's why i don't care that much about the new movie. It's just a preference thing, i don't even care about agendas and political correctness or whatever.

 

[Not]

I'm not upset. I just don't care about the new characters. I'd prefer it if it was a mixed cast of old characters and a couple of the new ones.

I see, you're more about familiarity then complete reinvention. That's cool. No foul.

 

[MC Safety]

Isn't it meant to be a reboot instead of a sequel?

I thought the trailer was for Nostalgia: The Movie.

Remember what happened 30 years ago? Remember the cool song? The Ghostbusters logo? The time the Ghostbuster got slimed? The Ecto-1? The fire house? The proton packs? The Venkman helmet? Slimer?

(There's even a reference to a big Twinkie.)

Also, they mention a new team. Which seems to suggest there was an old team.

 

[bucknuticus]

Watched the trailer again tonight because thought maybe I was just being cranky this morning. But man, nope, it is a really rough trailer. Everything just feels flat and dull in it, if this is the best they got (which none of us know) then I am out for this one.

 

[killertofu]

ugh. saw the trailer at work at we all said 'wow that looks like ghostbusters!'

20 pages of gaf saying it's the worst



established franchise....
ghostbusters 2 released in 1989.
"Women are not allowed to make remakes in hollywood, they are only allowed to do new movies because sexism!"
oh hey look, i made something sound sexist even though not everything is sexist just like you did.

awesome and original movies like.... SPY... or The Heat or Bridesmaids? Which all star women, are funny and original and all scored fresh on rottentomatoes (with bridesmaids and spy at or above 90%)?

Of all the times to try and drop some sexism and prejudice claims, it's on Paul Feig who basically makes his entire career in movies directing great movies starring women also exclusively women as the main characters.

The criticism is largely a load of horseshit so far best I can tell. They nailed the look, the sets the sound the sfx, pretty much everything. But it isn't exactly the 1989 ghostbusters 1 movie.

Fanboy drivel is just such nonsense.



I mean what the fuck is this

Uhh, I don't care for the OG ghostbusters, and I loved bridesmaids (not so much the Heat and haven't seen Spy)

and I still think this looks like shit.

But yeah fanboy misogynst drivel amirite?

 

[Pyccko]

yeesh, that uh, that didn't look very good. bummer, I was actually looking forward to it. I guess here's hoping it's better than it seems.

 

[Not]

But yeah fanboy misogynst drivel amirite?

I see words to this effect a ton around Clinton threads, female Link threads, and now Ghostbusters threads...

I get that people have actual non-sexist grievances with things that are about women, but this constant tag at the end just feels like protesting too much.

Anyway, not a big deal.

Still excited for this movie based on the trailer (despite its problems), even though it looks like I'm in the minority.

 

[Sage00]

And I'd bet you, like the poster above demonstrates, the real reason most men don't like it is because "political correctness" undermines their representational positions of authority in entertainment.

Get out of here with that garbage.

The only one with a hidden 'real reason' here is you, likely pretending to like something just because it subverts gender stereotypes. Pretty objectively it looks mediocre.

 

[Oersted]

Looks absolutely terrible. Political correctness strikes again

Oh cmon you really don't think this movie is under a microscope because it's a reboot AND the fact it stars women? Everyone is entitled to their opinion but this could have had the best trailer ever and it still would have had detractors.

Nope, can't be.

 

[Miss.Selfdestruct]

Fuck it. I'll give it a try.

Don't pretend like the originals aren't goofy cheesy af, yet still fun.

 

[excelsiorlef]

The fact that they are all women makes it impossible for them to be Venkman, Stanz, Spenkler, Zedmore. That's the problem. A couple of these original characters at least should be able to return. Because its Ghostbusters. Just because the original cast can't do it, it doesn't mean newer gen actors can't try it.

You want to recast the characters. That's a horrible idea. Venkman is Bill Murray Venkman isn't like Spider-Man

Looks absolutely terrible. Political correctness strikes again

Well at least you're honest.

 

[Beefy]

I thought the trailer was for Nostalgia: The Movie.

Remember what happened 30 years ago? Remember the cool song? The Ghostbusters logo? The time the Ghostbuster got slimed? The Ecto-1? The fire house? The proton packs? The Venkman helmet? Slimer?

(There's even a reference to a big Twinkie.)

Also, they mention a new team. Which seems to suggest there was an old team.

I think that is just really shit (misleading)hyping up by Sony.

 

[Marvie_3]

This looks fuckin awful.

 

[yepyepyep]

I was giving them the benefit of the doubt but it does look very generic. I think my main problem is the look of the film. It looks overlit with boring cinematography and the CGI ghosts seem tacky. I was never one of those people who felt the original was the holy grail, but one thing I did like about those 80's horror comedies is that they put more effort into cinematic presentation.

 

[nkarafo]

You want to recast the characters. That's a horrible idea. Venkman is Bill Murray Venkman isn't like Spider-Man

Venkman is a fictional character. I agree that a new actor would have a very tough job even coming close to fill the shoes but it does make sense when making a reboot of an old classic. By not using a single canon character and going with everything else like the name, the logos, the iconic vehicle, the mascot (slimer) and pretty much everything else that caters to nostalgia, it makes if feel wrong IMO.

 

[Not]

Get out of here with that garbage.

The only one with a hidden 'real reason' here is you,

Damn, pretty heavy accusation, what did I do...

likely pretending to like something just because it subverts gender stereotypes.

oh.

Pretty objectively it looks mediocre.

Yup. Empirically, everyone who liked the trailer is either an idiot or just wants to be special. You nailed me. Nothing like a good patronizing to make me change my ways

 

[XBP]

Looks really good. Surprised so many people dislike it.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Venkman is a fictional character. I agree that a new actor would have a very tough job even coming close to fill the shoes but it does make sense when making a reboot of an old classic. By not using a single canon character and going with everything else like the name, the logos, the iconic vehicle, the mascot (slimer) and pretty much everything else that caters to nostalgia, it makes if feel wrong IMO.

I agree.

But i still believe most people would rather see at least a couple of the original canon characters, being played by new actors if the original cast can't do it. The rest could still be female/new ones. That's how i'd prefer it and that's why i don't care that much about the new movie. It's just a preference thing, i don't even care about agendas and political correctness or whatever.

I actually think that would be the one thing (other than making them the same characters but women) that would piss the puritanical and sexist segment of the famdom more than what's happened here.

 

[Bluth54]

ugh. saw the trailer at work at we all said 'wow that looks like ghostbusters!'

20 pages of gaf saying it's the worst



established franchise....
ghostbusters 2 released in 1989.
"Women are not allowed to make remakes in hollywood, they are only allowed to do new movies because sexism!"
oh hey look, i made something sound sexist even though not everything is sexist just like you did.

awesome and original movies like.... SPY... or The Heat or Bridesmaids? Which all star women, are funny and original and all scored fresh on rottentomatoes (with bridesmaids and spy at or above 90%)?

Of all the times to try and drop some sexism and prejudice claims, it's on Paul Feig who basically makes his entire career in movies directing great movies starring women also exclusively women as the main characters.

The criticism is largely a load of horseshit so far best I can tell. They nailed the look, the sets the sound the sfx, pretty much everything. But it isn't exactly the 1989 ghostbusters 1 movie.

Fanboy drivel is just such nonsense.



I mean what the fuck is this

Ghostbusters is my favorite movie of all time.

I have no issue with this being a reboot, or having all women in it. In fact like many Ghostbusters fans I love the character of Kylie Griffin, a female Ghostbuster from the Extreme Ghostbusters cartoon and the IDW comic.

The problem is that the humor in this trailer isn't close to the type of humor from the Ghostbusters movies. In Ghostbusters the humor is more subtle and dry. In this trailer the humor is more over the top and slapstick. Not only that, it seems like all the characters are cracking jokes, while in the originals for the most part only Peter Venkman cracked jokes, the other characters were mostly played straight.

The special effects looked good but that was to be expected with a big budget Hollywood movie.


I'm sorry that I want a Ghostbusters reboot to have the same type of humor as the original films.

 

[stufte]

https://twitter.com/lesdoggg/status/705449841330102272

 

[MC Safety]

I think that is just really shit (misleading)hyping up by Sony.

I'm not sure it's misleading. And I understand the fondness for the past.

Maybe the film itself will be less nod and wink. But I'm not sure about that, either.

 

[yanipheonu]

You know what, while I'm cold on this trailer and movie, I would like to see gender bent versions of more movies.

If only because Lord of the Rings Gender Bent version has potential...

 

[B33]

And? It's not like comedy can't be good or bad or target different audiences.

The original Ghostbusters was a comedy. But it was clever comedy. The Scooby Doo movies are also comedies. This reboot reminds me more of that childish kind of comedy.

The point is that people are being overly critical of this reboot having only seen a 2:38 trailer and the cast, and some of their criticisms could be applied to the original films by their own logic.

 

[DedalusJoyce]

didnt even get a chuckle looks really bad direct to video levels

 

[bananafactory]

I'm pretty sure most people don't like the all female cast because this way none of the original characters can be in. I'm talking about the fictional characters that are established as the Ghostbusters. That's Peter, Ray, Egon and Winston. It's not that women can't make remakes, it's that it's impossible for them to be any of these characters. IMO, at least a couple of those should be in the movie (and i'm not talking about the original cast). The fact than none of the original characters exist is the problem most people are complain about.

Ramis is dead and Murray didn't want to do a Ghosbusters 3. So you wanted a Dan Akroyd/Ernie Hudson GB film? Sorry but I can't imagine that would have been very good.

People need to get over the fact that you were never going to get all 4 back on screen together.

 

[valeo]

Like most Feig movies, I'm sure it will get rave reviews from critics but in reality be not all that funny (see: Spy)

 

[nkarafo]

Ramis is dead and Murray didn't want to do a Ghosbusters 3. So you wanted a Dan Akroyd/Ernie Hudson GB film? Sorry but I can't imagine that would have been very good.

People need to get over the fact that you were never going to get all 4 back on screen together.

Please, read the post before you quote it. I never talked about the original cast. I'm talking about the original CHARACTERS.

 

[bananafactory]

Read the post before you quote it. I never talked about the original cast. I'm talking about the original CHARACTERS.

I did, and I'm sorry but I don't get what you're saying. You want to recast some of them? Otherwise you can't get the characters without the actors

Like many things this just comes down a subjective preference, so I'm not saying you're right or wrong. But recasting Venkman and Egon would also have received awful backlash.

 

[B33]

Edit: I don't agree with the interminable fan mansplaining the GHOSTBUSTERS reboot to Dan Aykroyd.

 

[Afrocious]

I thought it was funny.

 

[bananafactory]

.

Man, if I was the people involved with this movie I'd just be off social media altogether. I don't know how they handle the volume of vitriol being directed at them.

 

[Carcetti]

Looks absolutely terrible. Political correctness strikes again

The original Ghostbusters was pretty much a one-shot event, with the cast, the crew, the zeitgeist, all of it putting together a movie that's impossible to replicate later. The new one is bound to be something less just because it's going to be derivative. That's a valid reason for worrying about this movie.

And then there's this.

It's like the trailer's a probe that's floating the turds to the surface.

 

[nkarafo]

I did, and I'm sorry but I don't get what you're saying. You want to recast some of them? Otherwise you can't get the characters without the actors

Yes, IMO some of the canon characters matter in the franchise and i'd like them to be in. New actors or not. That's a personal preference though. And yeah, i would probably still bitch about it since the original cast is very tough to top. But i would still prefer it instead of what we got.

The point is that people are being overly critical of this reboot having only seen a 2:38 trailer and the cast, and some of their criticisms could be applied to the original films by their own logic.

Like what? So far people complained about the childish, slapstick humor and the cartoony, overly colorful look that makes it look like Pixels or Scooby Doo. Non of these criticisms can be applied to the original film or it's trailer.

 

[bananafactory]

Yes, IMO some of the canon characters matter in the franchise and i'd like them to be in. New actors or not.

We'll just have to agree to disagree then.

These characters are so completely tied to the actors who portrayed them for me that I could never accept anyone other than Bill Murray as Peter Venkman.