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[213372bu]

Trump doesn't believe a single thing he says, just go watch his past tapes and views on issues. He completely destroyed the GOP in a matter of months. Tea Party fractured the party, Trump took a sledge hammer to it.

He's not going to go off the handlebars, he's not going to institute a fascist government, dude is pandering so hard that it's stunning that the entire world hasn't caught on.

Besides, this is all going to come to ahead at the RNC with a brokered convention where he is going to have the nomination stolen from him. If that doesn't happen then GOP will run a third party candidate to try and cut him off from the party.

There are too many checks and balances to have a president basically destroy a country on his own. Nobody would authorize a nuclear strike because he wanted to, that's now how the system works.

Yep.

And on top of that there is going to be a huge opposition when it comes to the general.

 

[nillah]

Last night what was displayed was Trumps ability to withstand multiple attacks, Trump defines what it means to be DURABLE. Something that hasn't been shown by a president in quite some time.

Even if you don't want Trump to win, think about a trump winning and what avenues that opens up in American politics. As it stands you have an endless chain of bureaucrat haults with an outdated structure supporting its fragile beams.

At the end of the day you have a country sitting in 13 billion dollars of debt so take that for what it is.

Trump displayed durability in a time of war.

 

[213372bu]

For reference I'm saying it isn't going to be the end of the world.

Not endorsing Trump or condoning some of his tactics.

US isn't gonna implode.

 

[Nutter]

As a Muslim, it is actually a pretty scary thought having trump as a president.

 

[Nipo]

I wouldn't be so sure. Bush got elected twice.

The demographics have shifted significantly since 2004. Bush couldn't win either with today's electorate.

 

[Septimus Prime]

To all idiots voting for him you are doing a great job destroying america again..it is not entertainment it is just the people who think he is fantastic work but all i see as a european a dictator,a neonazi,a facist,a supremacist talking and jabbing dumb shit out of his mouth and people are taking it like it is all ok.

Cruz is also terrifying i agree but seeing this idiot rising among the votes is staggering and show that people will vote for it no matter what.

I don't live in the USA (I'll be there this October for 8 months tho), so there is one thing I don't understand.
I think I've never read someone saying something nice about him. From here (France) he is just a crazy guy (from what I read/saw).

So, why is he winning ?

According to this Greenwald piece, https://theintercept.com/2016/03/04...-but-an-uncomfortably-vivid-reflection-of-it/, it's because he reflects what the US mainstream is thinking but not acknowledging about itself.

But in many cases, probably most, the flamboyant denunciations of Trump by establishment figures make no sense except as self-aggrandizing pretense, because those condemning him have long tolerated if not outright advocated very similar ideas, albeit with less rhetorical candor. Trump is self-evidently a toxic authoritarian demagogue advocating morally monstrous positions, but in most cases where elite outrage is being vented, he is merely a natural extension of the mainstream rhetorical and policy framework that has been laid, not some radical departure from it. He’s their id. What establishment mavens most resent is not what Trump is, does, or says, but what he reflects: the unmistakable, undeniable signs of late-stage imperial collapse, along with the resentments and hatreds they have long deliberately and self-servingly stoked but which are now raging out of their control.

If you really think you can locate fine distinctions — we merely keep killing the children, spouses, and other family members over and over by accident, not by purposely targeting — at least don’t pretend that what Trump is advocating is something our civilized minds have never previously encountered. He may be more gauche for saying it aloud and gleefully justifying it rather than feigning sorrow over it, but the substance of what he’s saying — despicable though it is — is hardly categorically different from what the U.S. government and its closest allies actually do over and over. And that’s to say nothing of the unpleasant fact that we’re all now supposed to ignore lest we be smeared as Trump supporters: that even as he advocates clear war crimes, he also, in some important cases, is advocating policies and approaches less militaristic and warmongering than not only his GOP rivals, but the war-loving leading Democratic candidate as well.

Cracked is actually running an article today about some of the things Trump could do if he gets into office, as well.

Sorry if this isn't a timely response. I had to head into a meeting while typing this.

 

[thelastcrusader]

After the last 16 years of shit what could be worse?

 

[kame-sennin]

He is absolutely not going to be the next President. Won't happen, will not ever happen. Nothing to be afraid of.

Bullshit.

Pennsylvania, Florida, North Carolina, and Ohio are all he needs to win.

 

[SuperAndroid17]

Criminal Clinton or Fascist Trump.

Pick your poison.

 

[Nipo]

Bullshit.



Pennsylvania, Florida, and Ohio are all he needs to win.

So all he needs to do is win a state republicans haven't won since 1988, a state that is almost 25% Hispanic, a state that is over 20% black, and ohio...

 

[JeTmAn81]

He'll lose the election in a landslide. Even if he won, America is big enough to get through a Drumpf presidency intact.

 

[thelastcrusader]

So all he needs to do is win a state republicans haven't won since 1988, a state that is almost 25% Hispanic, a state that is over 20% black, and ohio...

I totally see him winning Florida.

 

[Darryl M R]

Meh I rather have Trump than the other republicans. Though I would prefer a Dem for president. Bernie or Hillary I truly don't care at this point.

 

[Slayven]

I totally see him winning Florida.

Net favorability among Hispanic voters
Clinton: +37%
Sanders: +37%
Rubio: +8%
Kasich: +6%
Cruz: -5%
Trump: -64%
(WaPo)

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/705843988545282048

 

[Elfforkusu]

I find it a little annoying that people only care about government overreach when a clown is threatening to take office. The NSA has all your data, we drop drones on innocent civilians (including some american citizens abroad!), the FBI and other domestic agencies can make your life a living hell on almost a whim.

It might be better that we see some goddamn abuses now before the precedent is set that 'the government can do whatever it wants, terrorism.'

 

[Nipo]

I totally see him winning Florida.

I'm not convinced hill even win the primary. it will be interesting to see if Trump is willing to spend some real money to match what the super PACs are now putting against him. He won't be able to do it with free media like he got to this point.

 

[Good Job Bob]

So all he needs to do is win a state republicans haven't won since 1988, a state that is almost 25% Hispanic, a state that is over 20% black, and ohio...

Pennsylvania is the only real stretch.

 

[Nipo]

Pennsylvania is the only real stretch.

I can see him winning one of the four. Maybe two if he gets lucky but the odds of taking all four? No way. Clinton would have to do something monumentally stupid and I fully expect her to pick a VP to help shore up either FL or OH.

 

[kame-sennin]

So all he needs to do is win a state republicans haven't won since 1988, a state that is almost 25% Hispanic, a state that is over 20% black, and ohio...

Pennsylvania is an industrial state that's been economically devastated by outsourcing. You know, the thing that Trump has been railing about his entire campaign.

The Latinos in Florida are Cuban. They're a whole different ball game.

Ohio is another rust belt state that's been decimated by outsourcing.

 

[tanooki27]

what you're seeing is a once-in-several-generations intraparty breakdown. it's messy, but the end result will almost certainly not be good for the GOP

 

[Version 3.0]

Isn't it likely that he'd actually get very little done because of the political opposition against him?

I keep seeing that, but the reality is, if Trump won, then House and Senate would both certainly still be under Republican control.

It's not what Trump would want to do that's scary. "Build a wall!". Of course that's not going to happen.

What's scary is what that Republican Congress would send to him to sign. Would Trump veto any of the GOP's destructive legislation? I don't think so.

 

[kame-sennin]

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/705843988545282048

Florida Cubans don't vote with the rest of the Latino population. Their community was built by exiles, so they're arch capitalists. They've been solid red for a while because of how much they hate Castro - the guy the democrats just reopened a relationship with. There's also (as is the case in much of Latin America) an unfortunate history of racism that might make them less sympathetic to the plight of undocumented immigrants.

 

[Ganzlinger]

Trump might not win the election, but he is already a winner. The guy completely trolled America.

 

[Timedog]

Cruz is worse.

 

[NobleGundam]

It's more than this, man, it's what he's preaching(that he might or might not believe) and how many are foaming at the mouth at the possibility. I mean, didn't a room of people during a debate clap when advocated for "worse than waterboarding". It's depressing to see that reality.

I think I'm more concerned about how well our relationships between other countries will be if he's elected. And what actions he'll take regarding war and national security. Why didn't Obama or the Media brought up the fact that the government has no knowledge of the unknown amount of ppl that came from Syria into the U.S. from 2014 - 2016? If we are so afraid of the idea of Trump being president why not look at how our current president has handled national security? Hell I used to work just a few blocks away from the recent terror attack in San Bernardino. I had family in that area working and living their normal lives there... How does something like that just happens within our country?

 

[Nipo]

Pennsylvania is an industrial state that's been economically devastated by outsourcing. You know, the thing that Trump has been railing about his entire campaign.

The Latinos in Florida are Cuban. They're a whole different ball game.

Ohio is another rust belt state that's been decimated by outsourcing.

Cubans make up less than 7% of FL's Hispanic population. Only polling I could find with Trump and Cubans specifically was old but they also hate him. Julian Castro has to be on Clinton's short list and he is actually liked by the population there (although not nearly as much as Obama is)

Rural PA hasn't seen enough population growth to offset Phili in the general. Obama won the state by around 300,000 in 2012. Since then the economy has improved and the state has turned even more blue.

Yea, i think OH is his best shot and he'd need a decent VP pick to even take that.

 

[Ponn]

Most of the shit he's spouting he couldn't enact on his own. Plus I really feel most of the stuff he's going off on is just pandering to an extreme thats giving him his votes he wants and needs. Once he gets what he wants they will all become "trash" and "losers" to him again. He would destroy our foreign relations though.

I'm still more fearful of someone like Ted Cruz though who does have solid consistent agendas that are just horrible that he would push and could get through.

 

[lenovox1]

Everyone should be.

No one should lose their mental health over this. As has been said, the mathematical likelihood of Donald Trump winning the presidency is low.

It is healthy in this scenario to remove access to the media for a little while.

 

[lenovox1]

Cubans make up less than 7% of FL's Hispanic population. Only polling I could find with Trump and Cubans specifically was old but they also hate him. Julian Castro has to be on Clinton's short list and he is actually liked by the population there (although not nearly as much as Obama is)

Rural PA hasn't seen enough population growth to offset Phili in the general. Obama won the state by around 300,000 in 2012. Since then the economy has improved and the state has turned even more blue.

Yea, i think OH is his best shot and he'd need a decent VP pick to even take that.

And as you said, he needs at least all four to win.

 

[Tesseract]

The American people will do the right thing. The internet has totally changed the game.

 

[Movement]

If Trump truly runs in the primary, Democrats just won a third term. And the house. And maybe the Senate. The door is unlocked.

 

[UFO]

I'll be voting for Trump if Hillary gets the Dem nod.

 

[Jorok Goldblade]

What's the most serious or powerful thing the president can do completely on their own without any support from Congress, etc.?

Deploy troops. They have 60 days before needing Congress to approve the mission continuing.

 

[aeolist]

almost as scary as a trump presidency is a trump cabinet, trump head of national security/NSA/CIA, etc

trump scotus appointees are the scariest of all

 

[UFO]

Deploy troops. They have 60 days before needing Congress to approve the mission continuing.

He's going to get a lot of support from the military then. Hahahahaha

 

[KenzinFive]

Cubans make up less than 7% of FL's Hispanic population. Only polling I could find with Trump and Cubans specifically was old but they also hate him. Julian Castro has to be on Clinton's short list and he is actually liked by the population there (although not nearly as much as Obama is)

Rural PA hasn't seen enough population growth to offset Phili in the general. Obama won the state by around 300,000 in 2012. Since then the economy has improved and the state has turned even more blue.

Yea, i think OH is his best shot and he'd need a decent VP pick to even take that.

Even if Cubans made up the bulk of Florida's Hispanic population, I think there wouldn't be an issue. I'm the only liberal in my family of Cuban exiles in Miami. Despite their complaining of Obama, Democrats, and liberals' supposed socialism, every single one of them absolutely despises Trump. I have not spoken with or encountered a single person in this city that plans on voting for Trump, with the exception of one douchebag on Facebook who's actually a Ted Cruz supporter.

There's a chance some may vote for him due to an illogical and pathological hatred of Hillary, but many of them are drawing the line. My own Cuban grandmother today said she would vote for Hillary over Trump. That says volumes.

 

[Movement]

I'll be voting for Trump if Hillary gets the Dem nod.

What if Bernie gets the Democratic nomination?

 

[Tesseract]

We punish trump with our fears, our sins. He will come to and put political correctness on blast. Trump will express the dank memes necessary to deal out a final unification of america. Trump is the embodiment of John Adams, Lincoln, FDR, LBJ, raygun, and his own brand of Vince McMahan attitude era politics.

They can not stop trump. They can not stop the future. Don't be afraid, we still have zion deep down near the earth's core

 

[Angry Grimace]

I'll be voting for Trump if Hillary gets the Dem nod.

The kind of person who says "I'm voting for the hyper-conservative because my pet hyper-liberal candidate didn't win the primary!" is the kind of person I don't worry about because they don't actually vote, they just talk about it on the internet.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

There's next to zero chance of a Trump presidency. Stop your worrying.

 

[Stasis]

It's all very disconcerting. That anyone remotely intelligent can back this man. For any reason. Amazing.

And I say this as a dual citizen American and Canadian living in Canada. Happy I'm here more and more every year, shitty dollar aside.

 

[Movement]

Cruz terrifies me more than Trump.

 

[CaptainofIndustry]

This sounds like the nonsense Republicans were spewing when Obama got elected.

.

 

[Makai]

There's next to zero chance of a Drumpf presidency. Stop your worrying.

It's gotten a lot more likely. A ton of Democrats are moving into the Republican party.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

Last night what was displayed was Trumps ability to withstand multiple attacks, Trump defines what it means to be DURABLE. Something that hasn't been shown by a president in quite some time.

Even if you don't want Trump to win, think about a trump winning and what avenues that opens up in American politics. As it stands you have an endless chain of bureaucrat haults with an outdated structure supporting its fragile beams.

At the end of the day you have a country sitting in 13 billion dollars of debt so take that for what it is.

Trump displayed durability in a time of war.

trump is a joke and him spouting off/deflecting against a bunch of other clowns isn't very impressive. entertaining as it is!

I'll be voting for Trump if Hillary gets the Dem nod.

FUCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wrap it up boys, trump4prez!

It's gotten a lot more likely. A ton of Democrats are moving into the Republican party.

lol ok.... but no

 

[Movement]

It's gotten a lot more likely. A ton of Democrats are moving into the Republican party.

Do you have links to this?

 

[UglyPony]

Could you imagine Trump being at the wheel during the Cuban missile crises.

 

[Angry Grimace]

It's gotten a lot more likely. A ton of Democrats are moving into the Republican party.

Source?

 

[megalowho]

I have faith in the American public once the race becomes more serious. If we're still talking drama and insults over issues and platforms by the Fall the circus is truly off the rails, but we're not there yet. And agreed that a Ted Cruz presidency scares me more.

 

[digdug2k]

Most of the shit he's spouting he couldn't enact on his own. Plus I really feel most of the stuff he's going off on is just pandering to an extreme thats giving him his votes he wants and needs. Once he gets what he wants they will all become "trash" and "losers" to him again. He would destroy our foreign relations though.

I'm still more fearful of someone like Ted Cruz though who does have solid consistent agendas that are just horrible that he would push and could get through.

I saw some facebook post this week with an article saying this is basically what people said about Hitler as well. Is that true? I'd usually call any analogy to Hitler extreme, but given his comments on Muslims or Mexican immigrants, I don't think it really is in this case.

I wasn't really worried until I saw some Nate Silver comments the other day. Its not out of the question that he wins at this point. I think the numbers are all basically ?? since we've never really had someone court the "I hate anyone who isn't a white man" base before.