MultiJhonny
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They have to save the Constitution!!! Yet they don't even read it! Except for the good ol second amendment
Massive ongoing protest in Chicago makes Trump "postpone" his event
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They have to save the Constitution!!! Yet they don't even read it! Except for the good ol second amendment
The Citizen Kane of Games
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He pretty much has the Republican nomination on lockdown anyway. But this won't help him in the general.
Gordon Shumway
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Indeed..John Malcolm had it easier.
Dude..no! lol.
MHWilliams
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The Boston Tea Party, Stonewall, Purple Rain, and other protests disagree with you.
I am continually surprised at how many people don't like or understand protest and its strong effect throughout history.
Angelus Errare
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Damn it, I was going to say that.
But the traffic :/
gamerMan
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What do you expect people do, sit and let him spew his hatred? If people don't protest and "act accordingly", the man could get elected. I f he has a right to say what he wants, we have a right to protest. I hope we see more protests and people start to see the man for who he is. Hopefully these protests will encourage more people to get out and vote to stop this man from derailing everything this that this great country is about. This is getting ugly.
BobbyRobby
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Cool, hope protests stay peaceful.
im even more amazed at the people saying Trump's 1st amendment rights were violated.
Generalpsyduck
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Knowing trump fans it won't
Ether_Snake
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Protesting at a politician's rally is NEVER productive, it always increases their popularity.
edit: Trump will say he canceled the event out of his respect for the police and not wanting to see them and his supporters get attacked. All of his past comments about roughing up protesters will now be widely seen as right. People will equate protesters with "thugs". His campaign might be reaching a new level of popularity after tonight.
edit: Trump will say he canceled the event out of his respect for the police and not wanting to see them and his supporters get attacked. All of his past comments about roughing up protesters will now be widely seen as right. People will equate protesters with "thugs". His campaign might be reaching a new level of popularity after tonight.
DontBeThatGuy
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He cancelled it himself, and lied about any kind of recommendation from local authority. He made his decision.
djplaeskool
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Well, I think they have to have a clear message that highlights the candidate's bad policies or positions, so the focus isn't on the fact the rally was shut down and, instead, becomes about those policies. I haven't kept up with all the coverage on this incident, so I might be wrong, but most of the coverage I've seen just highlights the fact the rally was cancelled. Which, by itself, is a pretty neutral thing, unlikely to sway voters one way or another.
I'm a Clinton supporter, but I think the most recent protest against her was pretty effective, because it highlighted her prior use of the phrase "super predator" and most of the attention afterwards was about that statement and her stance on crime, not the actual disruption. Was there a clear message to this protest? I legitimately might have just missed it.
Captin Quacker
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Everythings bigger in texas, except our history books
Are you even from here? This is probably one of the most American things ever.
25_Cans_Of_Bacon
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No, that's not my issue. It's the manner of protest, not the fact they're protesting. You don't throw a tantrum like a child when you disagree with something. I seriously dislike Trump, I hope he doesn't get elected, but I'm not going to go out into the street representing my republic with such prepubescent and immature behavior.
You don't see anything wrong with that? Again, not the protesting...the manner. Inexcusable.
Lightning_Roller
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Protesting was the only way to bring change to this country at certain times in history. This needs to happen.
TheSpoiler
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This is completely wrong, because you assume the word "notoriety" doesn't exist.
This frames Trump for everyone. This pushes racist into a corner - the same ones saying Trump and his ilk aren't so. This displays the obvious fact about the intolerance for race and general vitriol. This gives us examples, so that when those playing mental gymnastics get going, you shut them down with real world examples.
This event will eclipse Trump. Despite his popularity in the polls, he's gone from a mildly funny racist joke to an awful human being.
Remember when SNL had him on their show? Now they, and everyone else under the sun, can't stop shitting on him (thank god!).
The more these real world examples happen, the more people get serious.
I guess it's inexcusable, even when your race is coined as rapists, terrorists, or told to be beaten on the spot.
Tell me, what is this better, more organized way that people should protest? Handing out fliers? History has shown how well that works.
Better yet, dude, just pick up a book or google past civil rights movements for some perspective. It's not too late to at least try and house some empathy.
Why would they when Trump's rhetoric advocates violence, like "the good ole' days". #MakeAmericaGreatAgain, give me a effing break.
Big Baybee
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What do you think a protest is would be my first question?
Well, they probably didn't have any Native American outfits or any tea to destroy handy.
Ether_Snake
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Protesting works against authority, not when you prevent a politician from addressing his crowd. THAT never works, never worked, and will help Trump just as it always helps the politicians who are faced with such protests.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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I don't think pre-pubescent kids are allowed on the streets without supervision.
What do you think a protest is? Can you share an acceptable one with us?
The first amendment has nothing to do with criticism or censorship by private entities such as individuals or businesses.
trump knew exactly what he was doingfrom twitter
the plausibility of their deniability just keeps slipping further and further away
Wow, protesting in the streets.
It's like you have to notice them or something.
DontBeThatGuy
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You know Trump's most controversial policies right, his most controversial statements and the violence and tense atmosphere at this rallies? Supporters like that old lady above with the Nazi Salute?
That's the reason for the protest. If someone wants to miss that and need it all spelled out for them as cleanly as possible, then I'm a little disappointed.
You're flat out wrong. We've seen protests advance the will of the people in this very election cycle multiple times already.
Captin Quacker
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I see we've entered the "you need to protest the right way" portion of the thread
The reality is that most effective protests end in violence or unrest. These dreams of completely passive protests just simply aren't in touch with history or reality.
Gordon Shumway
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Clockwork.
TheSpoiler
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Was it today or yesterday that the dude got beat up for protesting inside a Trump event, and how fast that spread?
It's like people live in a bubble where only their weirdly slow and paceful way is the correct way to solve this situation.
Angelus Errare
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Douglas supporters protested Lincoln when he spoke against the expansion of slavery. Lincoln lost the US Senate race to Douglas.
umm
when you say this falling to his level is leading republican presidential candidate
that is the problem - that is why people are doing this
fucking hell
People trying to stop protest are trying to stop change. The status quo is comfortable and doesn't disrupt the cushy world-view people have.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Yep. Frustrating how many people allow themselves to be fully compliant to perceived authority, as if the country itself wasn't about avoiding exactly that.
- Thomas Jefferson, Letter to William Stephens Smith (13 November 1787)
No hoodies
Don't be too loud
No foul language on signs
Don't look like a thug
No night protests
Clear a path for those you are protesting
Only chant early Kendrick Lamar lyrics
Lil'DigiOp
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Soo after reading 13 pages or crazieness.....
What the hell! This is just so wild, it's blowing my mind.
I think some people are right on the money when they say that Trump planned this. The clues add up, Why would he come to Chicago? His demo is not here at all. He knew this could be a possible response and therefore try to work the media circuit to detract from the rally stories that was going steam with news cycles.
Of course that was a viable plan.
But I disagree fully with those that say this plays to his favor or that Trump still 'wins'.
You see, these protests are not about his supporters. They are, but they're not about changing their minds. These people obviously are diehard Trump and won't waver. No, these protests are for the general population and any independents that haven't made up their mind. It's a call to action to see exactly why people are furious with Trump. People here have come together and united against hate rhetoric and it's really powerful to see such a message being sent on to the world. Overt hatred will not go on unchallenged anymore.
Trump has actually made a rather grave mistake in this regard. This Chicago protest has possibly sent a precedent in which now larger, more focused,and more organized protesters will combat these hateful rallies moving forward. Trump either has to tone back on his speech, change his locations to demos more viable for his bullshit, or switch to more private rally events.
He may win the nom, but for damn sure he will not win the General Election.
The Republicans are fucked.
What the hell! This is just so wild, it's blowing my mind.
I think some people are right on the money when they say that Trump planned this. The clues add up, Why would he come to Chicago? His demo is not here at all. He knew this could be a possible response and therefore try to work the media circuit to detract from the rally stories that was going steam with news cycles.
Of course that was a viable plan.
But I disagree fully with those that say this plays to his favor or that Trump still 'wins'.
You see, these protests are not about his supporters. They are, but they're not about changing their minds. These people obviously are diehard Trump and won't waver. No, these protests are for the general population and any independents that haven't made up their mind. It's a call to action to see exactly why people are furious with Trump. People here have come together and united against hate rhetoric and it's really powerful to see such a message being sent on to the world. Overt hatred will not go on unchallenged anymore.
Trump has actually made a rather grave mistake in this regard. This Chicago protest has possibly sent a precedent in which now larger, more focused,and more organized protesters will combat these hateful rallies moving forward. Trump either has to tone back on his speech, change his locations to demos more viable for his bullshit, or switch to more private rally events.
He may win the nom, but for damn sure he will not win the General Election.
The Republicans are fucked.
Please enlighten us on how they could protest correctly and not offend your sensibilities.
Yes. And while we're at it, the poors need to stop dying in the streets. It's unbefitting and upsetting to a genetlman!
Is not like you were going to get your ass off your chair and do something similar anyway.
To paraphrase MLK (because it's embarrassing to constantly just reprint the letter in full), lots of people prefer a negative peace that is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice.
edit: MLK'd
Angelus Errare
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Is not like you were going to get your ass off your chair and do something similar anyway.
See, this is the correct way to play the MLK card. You're doin the lord's work.
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