Microsoft announces Xbox Live cross-network (PSN and other networks) play
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Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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"*Parity clause still in effect".
Cow Goes Moo
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here's an old post from scathezombie, presumably a developer who worked on a game that would have implemented cross-console play, who has already posted in this thread already, that is more recent of sony's "stance" on console cross play
It'd work fine. Games are supposed to use your internal network ID for tracking and not the display name, anyway, because on Xbox your game is (supposed) to handle the gamertag being changed, same with Steam.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Ah I see.
Pestilence11
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From what I can remember Sony has always said they're fine with it when it was proposed by a developer. Microsoft was always the one that prevented it in the past.
FlammableAce
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Out of all the concerns in this thread this is the most legit one lol.
I can see it being handled the same as splitscreen multiplayer. They will probably just put (1) next to one of the player names.
Edit: or something like this
Slackerish
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Halo on PS4. Uncharted on Xbox. Internet would melt.
ODDI
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One highlights blue and the other green.
And this is why we can't have nice things. I'm sure there is something we can blame MS for in this announcement. I'm sure people will see their evilness in all of this.
FFS /s
For me it's great to see MS putting out great ideas to evolve what console gaming is for the better, but I totally HATE and it bothers me how many people still keep attacking them and calling shit out when they are doing good things for gaming. I'm sure only when Sony 'comes around' if that ever happens they will see it as a good thing overall and not MS trying to fool us with some secret scheme.
Bitch Pudding
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Isn't color better used to distinguish teams?
Barack Lesnar
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No point at all for Sony to do fantasy scenario like that. It would benefit MS way more than Sony. What people don't understand about this? Let me give you another example....it's not directly related to the OP but it's what im referring to in my posts of the past couple pages, about how there's so much mind games and underlying neurotic manipulation going on with this type of things. The example: When Phil Spencer compliments Sony, Playstation, a specific game or what have you...he doesn't just do it b/c he's trying to be unbiased and noble. He does it b/c Xbox is gettin there ass kicked to the moon. If the sides were switched and Xbox was winning, Phil wouldnt say a word. But that's not the case so he and other MS ppl drop little nuggets of amicability to the competitor to get good will their way. Look at how many threads have been made for those type of things where Phil says something nice about the competition....IT'S NOT B/C HE WANTS TO BE NICE AND AMICABLE, it's b/c MS is getting their ass whooped.
This announcement is similar. It has some good intentions but equally as PR intentions...b/c he knows Sony won't allow it (benefits MS more than Sony as many have mentioned, so it makes no sense), so like Diddy Kong so eloquently said:
It's a win win for MS and a lose lose for Sony.
If most people are buying PS4 & it start a snowball effect where others buy it because they want to play against their friends & you're the company that's getting the bad end of the stick why wouldn't you make this move to get yourself in on the benefits of people buying PS4s?
Bitch Pudding
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Double negative is plus, you know. Just sayin.
Art Vandilay
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You can't change your name on PSN though, but as another poster said there would probably be a (1) or something next to their name.
Then...well played?
Let the PR spokesman worry about it, for now this is a potentially good move for all consumers
Barack Lesnar
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Punkster_NY
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No fucking way! Things, they are a changing. 
Blargonaut
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- Universal basic housing with included small subsistence greenhouse for every household
- Universal free physical and mental healthcare
- Universal free utilities and internet
- Driver-less free high-speed mass transit
- Banning of fossil-fueled transports, and personal vehicles within cities
- Free access to education at all levels
- De-popularisation of the 'work to survive, work is the meaning of life' mindset
- Reliable workforce automation wherever and whenever possible, with complementary re-education of displaced workers into any other occupation
- Legalisation and government-monitored manufacture and distribution of recreational drugs
- National economy where majority of providers and services are dedicated to eco-friendly entertainment, tourism & recreation, scientific research and exploratory ventures for the betterment and fun of humanity
- 100% national renewable power coverage with fossil fuels being stockpiled for emergency only
- Transparency and streamlining of government and the legal system on all levels
- Establishment of an entirely unbiased, incorruptible, objective and popularised worldwide news-reporting entity
- Ban of public ownership of automatic and semi-automatic firearms, with soft disarmament of the populace from any pre-existing owned firearms through government-set monetary incentives and temporary bounties
- Disarmament and demilitarisation of the police, along with stricter recruitment policies
- Removal of the death penalty and restructuring of the jail system for better rehabilitation of criminals for possible safe reintroduction to society
- Creation of a government-endorsed, corporate-sponsored non-lethal yet Unreal Tournament-esque professional arena weapon-fighting "bloodsport" emulating in modern times the Coliseum of ancient Rome without the deaths, of which the inevitable resultant myriad of corporate-invented non-lethal products for effectively subduing ring opponents will be the new equipment outfitting the police force nationwide, and from which the already-educated champions of these events will be the regular pool of recruits for said police force
- Affordable VR
- Cross-platform Pokemon AR MMO with Pokemon Amiibo migratory drone swarms
- Reality is now virtually Pokemon reality
- Total immersion
soon
DeepEnigma
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While I am not completely disagreeing, how does this benefit MSFT unless there was a financial catch?
I wouldn't be as certain. There's less benefit for them than there is for Nintendo and Microsoft.
lol I know right? Wtf is going on there lately?
A lot of the posts about SFV are what-if scenarios if Capcom had not decided to go exclusive with Sony. What we know now is SFV is getting torn apart by players saying it's a rushed out, half-game, and SFV is dead, blah, blah, blah.
Now it's interesting to consider what might have happened if Capcom had chosen to wait until much later to release the game themselves.
So, was getting out SFV fast with Sony worth it if the game could have come out later perhaps and/or fared better, with only Capcom's funding, but a 3-platofrm combined online pool, meaning more sales on more platforms/sales, and perhaps not a rushed game? Who knows? But the speculation is interesting given how poorly it seems to be performing based on their decisions.
It benefits Microsoft by somewhat nullifying one of the PS4's advantages (being more popular, and therefore having a greater likelihood that your friends are playing on PS4).
ScatheZombie
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It only benefits Microsoft slightly more than Sony.
The reasons a person decides to buy a multiplayer game for one system or another are generally, in no particular order, where do my friends play, what has the larger community, and what has the better performance.
Cross-platform play ... doesn't really affect any of those. It doesn't affect where your friends already are and it doesn't affect performance per console. The only one of those it indirectly affects is community. I say indirectly because cross-platform play doesn't touch things like parties or chat. Outside of a developer creating their own entire account, party, chat, VOIP system (which some MMOs already do) you'll still be locked into XBL or PSN for that. It would only allow you to join matchmaking services with players from other platforms - similar to how Rocket League works. I can join my PSN friends and create a party and play with them - or I can random get thrown in with PC players. I can't join my PC friends and create a party with them from PSN. The individual communities are still intact - but everyone gets the benefit of faster queue times.
XBL players will get significantly faster queue times (depending on the game and internal community size) and PSN players will get slightly faster queue times.
That's it. It's really not enough of a 'loss', or benefit to MS, for Sony to suddenly change their past 10+ years of policy over.
Vital Tundra
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Steam makes the second person of the same name that joined the server have a 1 but their name and so on. Either that or simply putting the system icon next to their name.
Seeing as we dont even know what the name of the console will be....I dont think we can really say what the NX will/wont do.
I mean its not even out yet. Remember...when MS announced all the orig XBO policies Sony was gonna do the same with PS4.
According to many ppl.
You honestly think MS is changing this long term policy for purely altruistic reasons, because they love us and want us to be happy?
Fine, good for you. But this isn't "a great idea to evolve console gaming", it's just coming round to what everyone else has been doing for years.
So I ask myself, what changed? And until we get the details of their "open invitation" I'm going to assume that there is strategic advantage for MS in what they are doing, and so Sony would be smart to check it out properly before jumping in feet first.
Head.spawn
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Capcom has already said it is a PS4 exclusive and have been absolutely clear that it is for the life of the title. Or at least, that's what I got from their statements.
I didn't think they left any room for interpretation.
Well I stand corrected then!
Since I only play their main 1st party output I wasn't aware of that.
Bear Force One
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Welcome to a decade ago, MS.