HarryHengst
Member
So they didnt even encrypt the passwords?
Applying for jobs is exhausting and soul-crushing
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So they didnt even encrypt the passwords?
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Unreal... just got an offer letter for the internship. Thank you god! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
RedNumberFive
Banned
I had an interview last Thursday that went extremely well, and was told I'd have a go/no-go by Monday (yesterday). The wait is excruciating. Looking at Glassdoor, this company has a bad habit of not following up with applicants they decline. What is a good length of time for me to follow up with them to inquire?
MaximumSpider
Banned
Do Indeed or sites like Simplyhired even work?
Why wouldn't they work?
MaximumSpider
Banned
I've been using it for the past 2 months and nothing.
I was just wondering about any success stories
RedNumberFive
Banned
I've had good luck with LinkedIn. I found the others a waste of time.
MaximumSpider
Banned
Thank you. I'll try that then.
PeterVenkman
Member
Two months is unfortunately not very long - plus, listing somethings on Indeed results in hundreds of applications. Employers can take ages to get grouch all those resumes.
I also recommend finding places you want to work and monitoring them directly. There's also sites that do a better job of focusing on certain job types as opposed to litsing them all - angel list for tech / startups, idealist for social justice and non profit, etc. A lot of times, employers can only afford to list on a few, one or even no sites.
Linkedin I've found to work better than indeed.
I love when the executive director of my internship invites me to an informal coffee outing just to tell me that I can use her as a reference
I love working at retail
Who told you internships aren't qualified for work experience?
Well, it's a job search engine. It lets you search for jobs and then apply for them. It doesn't guarantee you'll find work.
I've always found simplyhired, for example, to be a good resource. Linkedin is good, too.
Even Craigslist has its merits.
entremet
Member
Honestly?
It's a crapshoot like any job board.
Networking, getting in touch with recruiters, and recommendations from friends are much better options.
LinkedIn is pretty good in my experience. If you have a decent profile and in demand skills you will be contacted by recruiters.
Terareflection
Member
Being the socially awkward fuck that I am, job interviews seemed liked one of the most terrifying things to me.
Thanks to this thread I've gotten not one but two job offers to work at hospitals as registered nurse. I am really grateful.
Thanks to this thread I've gotten not one but two job offers to work at hospitals as registered nurse. I am really grateful.
How are you going to be a nurse if you're socially awkward?
I've had huge success with simplyhired tbh
entremet
Member
He or she is probably being way too hard on themselves.
The fact that they got two offers means that they have some decent semblance of social decorum.
Got the job I've been stressing about for a while now--and it's absolutely wonderful. I'm so goddamn happy to no longer have to stress about my next paycheck. Non-exempt FTE here I come!
As for what boards work best... I always had the most luck with Craigslist. Places like Indeed and Simplyhired troll through job postings and will post things that might not even be open anymore--like positions that were posted for posterity but were actually going to an internal candidate. Craigslist, at the very least, requires an active effort on someone's behalf so the position is currently open and they're looking. Plus, it immediately opens a line of communication between you and the prospective employer.
As for what boards work best... I always had the most luck with Craigslist. Places like Indeed and Simplyhired troll through job postings and will post things that might not even be open anymore--like positions that were posted for posterity but were actually going to an internal candidate. Craigslist, at the very least, requires an active effort on someone's behalf so the position is currently open and they're looking. Plus, it immediately opens a line of communication between you and the prospective employer.
I've had some classmates say that they've been told this from prospective employers, so it's an assumption I'm getting from sending out job applications.
I'm kinda frustrated getting responses for internships and nothing for paid work... at this point I've done six internships, seven if you include work that I did at my school's museum.
Also sick of retail not because of what it is, but that I'm actually pretty bad at it. I realized that I can never put in the extra mile that my bosses always want from me, just meeting my expectations. I don't have the mental energy to put in that sort of effort.
Also depending on the specifics of the role, RNs can be more like case workers. My wife is a nurse in a old folks home and the RN is the one who looks over the cases and decides what sorts of meds to give out, when they should go to the doctor, etc. So there is contact with people but it's not like working in the ER where it is dealing with dozens of people in a chaotic situation.
As long as you show up on time and actually do your job, you're already doing way more than most retail workers, so don't let your bosses try to guilt trip you. Of course your bosses want you to "go the extra mile" because it improves their numbers. I worked retail for 10 years and it's not worth it to put in extra effort unless you plan on making it a career. And even then, unless you have a business degree, you're not likely to move past middle management anyway.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
I just landed my internship with indeed. Used it for one week. Filled out like 10 applications a week and a half ago got one email which turned into interview which turned to me starting next week.
TheSadRanger
Banned
Indeed is great for city jobs depending on where you live.
Hell where I'm at city jobs are creme de la creme at the moment. If you're certified you can make more money being a stoplight technician without a degree than someone with a bachelor's.
So I had a phone interview last week Monday and an assessment center on Friday. I got a rejection from the company I had a phone interview with with the typical 'There were other candidates that were better fit for the job requirement' feedback. However, a friend of mine, who I also told to apply there, passed the phone interview and had an actual interview today. Somehow I came up. Not by name, but because me and my friend went to the same University and only two people applied from that University. They told him the reason they rejected me was because they didn't think I was doing anything with my time and that I was a quiet person. I'm an introvert and I'm also not the best in social situations and knowing that this was one of the reasons why they didn't hire is killing me. I've had a few interviews before and what if this was the reason why no one wanted to hire me? How do I fix this? I can't just become an extrovert.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Yeah, being an introvert that sucks to hear. My advice would be to research on the company beforehand and come up with a set of questions to ask them as the interview goes on just to fill the space.
What kind of fields are you and your classmates trying to work in?
I'm studying accounting and it's all about internships here. I can name about 10 people I know who have gotten jobs in accounting. I know some people who got in Finance companies via internships as well. Hell, the company sponsoring my scholarship has hired many interns. Internships not being relevant is just bizarre when heard by a business student.
Something else is up here. If you have six internships under your belt you "should" of gotten an offer by one of them now.
I just don't want to be let go if things start getting slow and they need to cut hours/people. It's happened to me once already and it really messed up my routine, and I fucking hate being disposable.
I worked at a high volume corporate store for three years and although it was more stressful, at least they weren't going tell me to leave. The more bodies they had the better despite the quality of work being done.
The shop I'm at now is a lot smaller, and there's less things to do, so its kinda like this game where you have to prove how you can be productive despite getting the routines done. My boss makes comments like "don't mind me hanging around, I just want to observe how you work" and just watches me. I really can't and don't care to prove anything to them.
Non-Profit management/Art Administration, either working in museums or other cultural institutions. I graduated with a bachelors in Art History and Museum Professions, also an associates in Advertising and Marketing Communications because I had switched majors but still had enough credits for a degree. My classmates were in the same boat but some had a degree in Fashion PR/Management.
edit: I also it's probably the experience that I have that isn't valuable for the jobs I apply for. Most of my internships have been in Digital Marketing and Communications at cultural institutions, but I probably need more of a background in Development/Fundraising, which means even more interning -___- I also just moved from New York City to Chicago seven months ago, so I suspect that's another weakness I have as well.
TimeEffect
Member
Im so frustrated.
The job I applied for hired me and said I had a successful interview.
But because there are caps on the hiring list, I'm pretty much in limbo for the year until they do their next round of hires I guess. If I dont get put on the list by the year end, I have to apply again. This is killing me.
Im working another job, but this is the job I want. If I dont get this...Ill probably move overseas, but that thought is such a big step for me. On the other hand, I am young and want to see the world.
Other days, Im really depressed and hating my life and feeling like an old, inexperienced dude. I wish I instead went to grad school, but now even that feels like it's too late.
The job I applied for hired me and said I had a successful interview.
But because there are caps on the hiring list, I'm pretty much in limbo for the year until they do their next round of hires I guess. If I dont get put on the list by the year end, I have to apply again. This is killing me.
Im working another job, but this is the job I want. If I dont get this...Ill probably move overseas, but that thought is such a big step for me. On the other hand, I am young and want to see the world.
Other days, Im really depressed and hating my life and feeling like an old, inexperienced dude. I wish I instead went to grad school, but now even that feels like it's too late.
Like that party thread, you need to just fake it essentially. Social skills come easier to extroverts but you can learn them. Depending on the job you probably don't need to fake it for long if you just want to get by.
You'll find a lot of the application and job hunting process is subjective. If you feel it's valid criticism that you're quiet, you should look for jobs that limit interaction. There are plenty of be had.
smokeandmirrors
Banned
I got my job through indeed but it they were saying I was rare for the company? idk.
all the interviews i got were through indeed but yeah it was more miss than hit by a huge margin.
Pretty much this. I'm a pretty quiet person normally but learned to take it up a notch in interviews. Make sure to keep eye contact, have good posture, and don't fidget, pick your nails, etc.
Terareflection
Member
Yeah, quiet is a better word for me. But I am a good listener( which is probably the second most important thing about being a nurse, other than assessment skills) and can conduct myself in interviews, so I can get by.
But really I just wanted to thank you guys, lol.
I haven't had the time to look through this whole thread, but man, I feel exhausted and soul-crushed these days. I spent 6-7 years, depending on how you look at it, programming video games and slot machines for companies in LA and NYC, until I was suddenly laid off back in July. I don't want to try to get a job making video games anymore because all that seems to do is get me 1 year of employment and I don't like how I'm treated, and honestly I don't really love programming either. It's just something I took because I wanted the skills to be able to make my own video games. And if I had the money I would do just that, but I don't.
So I moved back to PA to be near my parents as they deal with difficult stuff right now, and I have discovered two things:
Just today, at the behest of an advisor, I went to this placement agency called Aerotek. I was told in no uncertain terms that they wouldn't be able to place me anywhere, not even at an entry level position working at an office or anything, and they weren't going to have anything in the future either. The guy was a fucking asshole, to be honest. But it seems that I can't even get a job where I can learn what I need to know.
I just don't know what to do anymore. Craiglist and Indeed are just swamped with nothing but entries wanting fucking commercial truck drivers or call center people with 2 years experience required. It doesn't help that since I haven't lived here in 10 years I don't even know what's around anymore. I feel like I've fallen into a pit of $10/hour temp agency warehouse picking and packing jobs that won't pay my bills and will slowly sink me into inescapable debt. A pit that ends with me killing myself after 8 months just to end the misery and boredom.
So I moved back to PA to be near my parents as they deal with difficult stuff right now, and I have discovered two things:
- There's almost zero companies that have any need for programmers here, in the third most populated area in PA, and the few that do want somebody with 7+ years of experience doing work with Oracle and databases and cloud shit. In other words, the side of programming I don't really know well.
- If I want to just get some other job that pays like 15 bucks an hour or something, I can't because they look at my resume and say "Something's weird about this guy... Why is he applying for this low-paying job when he was living in the NYC area making lots of money before? "
Just today, at the behest of an advisor, I went to this placement agency called Aerotek. I was told in no uncertain terms that they wouldn't be able to place me anywhere, not even at an entry level position working at an office or anything, and they weren't going to have anything in the future either. The guy was a fucking asshole, to be honest. But it seems that I can't even get a job where I can learn what I need to know.
I just don't know what to do anymore. Craiglist and Indeed are just swamped with nothing but entries wanting fucking commercial truck drivers or call center people with 2 years experience required. It doesn't help that since I haven't lived here in 10 years I don't even know what's around anymore. I feel like I've fallen into a pit of $10/hour temp agency warehouse picking and packing jobs that won't pay my bills and will slowly sink me into inescapable debt. A pit that ends with me killing myself after 8 months just to end the misery and boredom.
My interview went really well, I got called in for a second interview, and as I suspected, he had some knowledge of what went down at my previous job, so my honesty paid off, and we got a good feel for each others personality and as a result we both felt very comfortable with each other. Fast forward a bit and
I got an offer! pay is more than i expected too! on the downside, it's a bit less than my last job, but I'm not complaining. It was actually enough that I accepted it on the spot even though I do have another interview lined up. It would've been my first choice anyways, I was just worried that the pay was going to be significantly lower than what I wanted.
I'll go to the other interview out of curiosity, but I really don't think I'll change my mind. I do expect them to offer a bit more pay. It'll be a tough decision if they come through a lot more, but coming from my previous job, I can finally understand that sometimes a bit more money can not be worth it and I know I the one i accepted will be a great fit
This is such a relief too, one job i had in this field took 4 months from when I applied to when i started working, so I worried I might be working out of my field for little while.
I got an offer! pay is more than i expected too! on the downside, it's a bit less than my last job, but I'm not complaining. It was actually enough that I accepted it on the spot even though I do have another interview lined up. It would've been my first choice anyways, I was just worried that the pay was going to be significantly lower than what I wanted.
I'll go to the other interview out of curiosity, but I really don't think I'll change my mind. I do expect them to offer a bit more pay. It'll be a tough decision if they come through a lot more, but coming from my previous job, I can finally understand that sometimes a bit more money can not be worth it and I know I the one i accepted will be a great fit
This is such a relief too, one job i had in this field took 4 months from when I applied to when i started working, so I worried I might be working out of my field for little while.
Wind's Howling
Member
Just had my first job interview in 4 years and the gruesome wait for that telephone call to hear if you are hired or not is absolutely killing me.
obijkenobi
Member
At least you got an interview. : (
ViewtifulJC
Banned
One of the worst of all feelings. Like your life just hanging in limbo and you have no idea when its kickstart
RedNumberFive
Banned
I'm in your shoes right now, but 10 years for me. I've been checking my email and messages compulsively.
Almost graduating from my marketing master, but I can't really seem to find that one job that really speaks to me.
Has anyone had experience with applying at a company where there are no job positions? So sending in your CV and an open motivation letter.
Was it successfull and do you have any tips?
Has anyone had experience with applying at a company where there are no job positions? So sending in your CV and an open motivation letter.
Was it successfull and do you have any tips?
Lilalaunebaer
Member
Soooo, i´ve been working free lance through a different company that got me the job, at my current company for a little over a year now. When i got there my job description was, install windows + necessary software on pcs and notebooks, go to user who has an old pc, do backup and change the old one with the new one. Plus some other hardware stuff, like changing new monitors, keyboards, headsets etc.
Now i do, in addition to that, on-site support. If someone has a problem, and it can´t be done through remote desktop, i go. This point is important to me.
But the commute is starting to legit piss me off (over an hour each direction, in rush hour and public transport that´s overfilled). So today i asked my 2 teamleaders, after talking about extending my contract for another 3 months, if it wouldn´t be neat, if we could make this a permanent thing. (because i want to move closer, so i don´t waste my fucking life every day). They´re for it, they gonna talk to the IT-boss about it.
Now my question, how, and how much of a raise should i ask for? I ask, because i do more than when i started. My original employer would be cut out from taking a fee from my pay that my current employer pays him, so they save money too. And instead of getting pay 12 times a year, and the first 30k are currently tax free for me as a free lance, so i only pay insurance, healthcare right now, i´d get pay 14 times a year and would have to pay ~ 2000k in addition in income tax.
If i would work full time right now, i´d make 20k after taxes (26 before tax). If i were to work as a regular employee, i´d need a 2k raise for the year (28 before tax) to not make less.
Can i get away with that?lol Never was in a position to ask for a raise, so this is a first for me. Usually would just get another job, but i like it there.
Now i do, in addition to that, on-site support. If someone has a problem, and it can´t be done through remote desktop, i go. This point is important to me.
But the commute is starting to legit piss me off (over an hour each direction, in rush hour and public transport that´s overfilled). So today i asked my 2 teamleaders, after talking about extending my contract for another 3 months, if it wouldn´t be neat, if we could make this a permanent thing. (because i want to move closer, so i don´t waste my fucking life every day). They´re for it, they gonna talk to the IT-boss about it.
Now my question, how, and how much of a raise should i ask for? I ask, because i do more than when i started. My original employer would be cut out from taking a fee from my pay that my current employer pays him, so they save money too. And instead of getting pay 12 times a year, and the first 30k are currently tax free for me as a free lance, so i only pay insurance, healthcare right now, i´d get pay 14 times a year and would have to pay ~ 2000k in addition in income tax.
If i would work full time right now, i´d make 20k after taxes (26 before tax). If i were to work as a regular employee, i´d need a 2k raise for the year (28 before tax) to not make less.
Can i get away with that?lol Never was in a position to ask for a raise, so this is a first for me. Usually would just get another job, but i like it there.
Wind's Howling
Member
StrawberryJam
Member
Starting university in September, moving out in a month and need way more contracted hours than I have right now just to live until uni starts. I've lost count of how many jobs I've applied for in the past couple of months and I have only heard from one. Just so tiring.
Not only that, my current job told me I would be getting more contracted hours as someone was leaving and then when he left I was told I was getting nothing. And then they put his hours up on Indeed. What's a boy to do, eh?
Not only that, my current job told me I would be getting more contracted hours as someone was leaving and then when he left I was told I was getting nothing. And then they put his hours up on Indeed. What's a boy to do, eh?
Captain Tuttle
Member
25 is nothing, not even the end of the beginning. Keep at it, I looked for a couple of years for a position (my situation is pretty unique).
Put your head down and get to work, you'll make a connection and bingo, you'll have a gig
You can get Linkedin Premium for 30 free days, just connect it to paypal and cancel the subscription before the month ends to avoid having to pay. That said it makes it easier to im certain people on the platform, but also gives some insights on other people applying.
While quickly scrolling through Linkedin Jobs i was certain I saw the NeoGAF logo, looks hardly like it on a more detailed inspection.
mhayes86
Member
I understand that you just moved to PA to be closer to your folks, but what about looking into companies around the MD/DC/VA area? It's kind of an engineering hotspot, and programmers/developers are in high demand.
You have experience programming games, so you may not have too much difficulty picking up other languages. Entry level positions could still pay fairly well, and some may offer training.
For people who are losing hope have you tried changing your approach? It never hurts to get advice from people, see what you may be doing wrong and try different approaches. Different styles of cover letters, different interview techniques,maybe your CV/resume needs a change of layout. etc. Do mock interview, go to careers workshops.
RedNumberFive
Banned
Congrats dude! I just received a follow-up email telling me that offers are going out next week, so I have another anxiety filled weekend.