I think a brokered convention will just mean Trump wins anyway. But it would be entertaining to see.
Trump winning or losing the presidency will shatter the GOP so I'm good either way.
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I think a brokered convention will just mean Trump wins anyway. But it would be entertaining to see.
Trump winning or losing the presidency will shatter the GOP so I'm good either way.
You have to admit though that a brokered convention where Trump wins the nomination anyway would be fucking amazing to watch.
CheeseConey
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Just voted in Ohio, there was only a few people there- went quick.
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thepotatoman
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I'm so excited!
Not because I expect there's anything to be learned from tonight, but because tonight should signal the end of everyone pretending Trump vs Clinton isn't already the decided ballot.
Not because I expect there's anything to be learned from tonight, but because tonight should signal the end of everyone pretending Trump vs Clinton isn't already the decided ballot.
This, plus troll voting for Trump clearly disadvantages Hillary, which either leaves her more bruised for the general or -- somehow -- gets Bernie the nomination, who then has to face a national test that he's never dealt with before.
Tactical voting only works as long as the tactics aren't actually undermining your preferred candidate in the process.
RustyNails
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City voting seems to be light today, which doesn't seem to bode well for Sanders if he's looking for higher turnouts. Rural polling places, at least I have heard, were packed this morning. Republicans out to stump for Drumpf.
Very much so. It devalues the vote when people do things like this. Do the research, construct a strong view of the candidates, pick the one you like the most, and vote for them until they aren't available anymore. When that happens move to the next down the list. This is how a representative republic is supposed to work. Trying to sabotage other candidates weakens the integrity of the process.
The simple fix is to only allow registered Republicans to vote in a Republican primary.
Same for the Democrats.
orthodoxy1095
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Voted early in Missouri. 256 people already voted at my polling place by 8:50AM.
balladofwindfishes
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All that money wasted by the establishment to keep these losers around for a half a year in the hopes of a brokered convention only for the convention to pick Trump anyway.
Hmm-mmm
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/spring-break-police-lack-control-over-rowdy-college-students/
Police struggle to keep lid on rowdy spring breakers
Look at all the youth that won't be voting!
Police struggle to keep lid on rowdy spring breakers
Look at all the youth that won't be voting!
Not really, he'd just give the VP seat to Cruz to pick up his delegates and they'll win on the second vote.
We aren't getting a true brokered convention for exactly that reason. Cruz is despised by the rest of the GOP. The fact that he is the only one bringing in substantial delegates to the convention besides Trump puts all the power with him and Trump. Cruz' people actually know how the political game works and that is of real value to Trump.
So instead of all the gridlock and drama people are wishing and praying for what you would really get is a unified and focused Trump/Cruz ticket that would cement the base behind them and allow Trump to go after middle America by simply fostering the seeds of anti-globalization/NAFTA/etc. already planted in many swing states by Sanders.
I would expect a Clinton/anyone ticket to win against Trump/Cruz, but it would be far closer than some of these open primary saboteurs think.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/spring-break-police-lack-control-over-rowdy-college-students/
Police struggle to keep lid on rowdy spring breakers
Look at all the youth that won't be voting!
Sad Bernie.
gutter_trash
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we have no guarantee who they will pick, or even have a new name drop
Bruce Springsteen
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It's going to be such a mess if Trump doesn't win OH
perfectchaos007
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Are Bernie fans running to the polls?
Are Hilary fans walking to the polls in hopes that in route to the polls they remember they have this thing they have to go to and can't make it to the polls?
Are Hilary fans walking to the polls in hopes that in route to the polls they remember they have this thing they have to go to and can't make it to the polls?
RPGCrazied
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I think they should just all stay in, no matter what happens, just to continue to take delegates away from Trump.
Then at the convention give it to Cruz.
Then in the GE Clinton or Bernie wins easily. That is what I hope happens.
Split by congressional district, if no majority vote (plus 12 for winner).
Regardless, I just voted for who I thought was the best (or least worst). I am okay with either Dem nominee, so I feel like my vote really would have been wasted there, when I could have some impact on the other nominee, even if it is small. At the very least, votes for Kasich and Rubio (who only polled 1 percent higher) help prevent a full majority for one of the other two, giving them a winner take all.
balladofwindfishes
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Them all staying in just helps Trump, as it splits there vote.
RPGCrazied
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But it makes it harder for Trump to get 1,237.
I think Rubio voters would just jump to the Kasich bandwagon.
But yeah, they should both probbaly stay. Cruz/Kasich.
Macho Madness
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Not if the states are winner take all. That actually makes it easier for Trump.
Part of me wants Kasich to stay in the race until the General Election. Same with Cruz and Rubio just to splinter the party even more and push it closer to the point of collapse. The other part wants me to see Kasich fall flat on his face in Ohio today and be forced out of the race because its Kasich.
RPGCrazied
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Well, how many of those are left? He probably will lose Ohio. And that is 66 for Kasich.
Macho Madness
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That's MOST of the states left. Very few are proportional going forward.
Black Republican
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Remember if CNN says tune in at 6pm et, you say NO!
Macho Madness
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Tune in a few minutes before polls close, and not a second sooner.
620 at the earliest
RPGCrazied
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And you think Trump can win most of those? I don't know about that. Florida, but he has hotels there. Just like how he won Nevada.
Bruce Springsteen
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then the realization hits that Cruz is actually much worse then Trump, just was more quite
Macho Madness
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Rubio needs to drop out after Florida, that was all he could hope to contribute and he likely will lose. Cruz and Kasich might be able to siphon enough votes for a brokered convention, but honestly does it even matter?
The whole thing comes down to progressive and reasonable people needing to show the fuck up at the polls in November
The whole thing comes down to progressive and reasonable people needing to show the fuck up at the polls in November
RPGCrazied
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But, like Trump, really has no chance in a general election. The math just isn't there.
Bruce Springsteen
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I agree that neither has a shot in hell, Cruz has even less of a shot
Next week Arizona is winner take all and Trump will win that one for sure. I bet white voters there a fabulous wall there more than any other place!
Some of the bigger states like New York, Pennsylvania and California are not winner take all, but Cruz probbaly has zero chance there. Kasich wold have to perform well.
Some of the bigger states like New York, Pennsylvania and California are not winner take all, but Cruz probbaly has zero chance there. Kasich wold have to perform well.
Yes, he's going to win most of them.
Even if Trump did win, the electoral college would be there to stop him. Yeah there would be riots, but what good is the system if you can't use it to stop lunatics. This is exactly why this shit is in place.
Orbis Tabula
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Candidates staying in helps Trump. He loses one on ones with Cruz. If Kasich takes Ohio and stays in, he keeps doing what he's been doing. Splitting the not-Trump vote and letting Trump amass delegates.
Basically, the only path I see at this point for a Trump loss is this. Rubio drops out after Florida, Kasich wins Ohio, but drops out anyway, since he'll likely be mathematically eliminated tonight. It becomes Cruz v. Trump and voters begrudgingly go for Cruz. It stays a close race, and either one of them wins outright, just barely, or they both go to the convention with ~45% of the delegates each.
Either way, the GOP is stuck with Trump or Cruz.
Bruce Springsteen
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The dream scenario is still Trump has most delegates going into the convention but doesn't get the nomination, rendering the republican primary useless, then runs as a third party
Inspector Jones
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Voted for Bernie today in IL!
Polling place probably had around 20 people and it took as much time to finish voting from walking in to walking out. Not too bad.
Polling place probably had around 20 people and it took as much time to finish voting from walking in to walking out. Not too bad.
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