2 Super 2 Tuesday |OT| I'm Really Feeling (The Bern) (3/15, 3/22, 3/26 Contests)

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Huh. The west coast will be interesting to watch when they come into play. Hillary supporters are claiming California will definitely go their way; Bernie supporters are claiming California will definitely go their way. I wonder which is true?

Early reports are suggesting a better night for Sanders than expected. If he can win Ohio, Illinois, and Missouri, that would be fantastic. Even more so if he can narrow his likely losses in Florida and North Carolina. If he loses Florida by 25%+, that might just seal the deal, depending on his lead in the other states.

Hoping for the best! Fun and stressful night ahead of us regardless.
 
My only concern with Trump is that we might win too much. I don't want to get sick of winning. Good thing there's a 2 term limit.

Honestly, I don't think the term limit would stand if Trump gets in office.

You do realize why he is doing this, right? It is because the next time he runs for president again he can say that he fought till the very end.

Wonder how many will tune in to the 2020 Republican JV Debates to hear him say it...
 
Long primary seasons are beneficial to democracy. It allows for the vetting of candidates, refinement of political movements, and allows for candidates to gain recognition. Obama wouldn't be president without the prolonged primary system.

People who don't like it, what problem are you thinking you will solve by having a single day primary?
 
Right, Bernie would have been crushed in national primary if was all held at one time. A good portion of his strength has been in the state by state caucus syStem. What really needs to happen is more states need to happen at once and they should all be primaries. Caucuses don't make any sense in this day and age
Caucuses make sense if you want only the most dedicated people voting. I think it's bad, but you have to consider how it benefits a party.

More states should happen at once. I'd be happy to see Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada be clumped together on one day.
 
"Rubio vows to stay in even if he loses Florida"

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-...ay-in-race-after-florida-220787#ixzz430pMHpgW

LOL, what a loser. This guy is obviously not fit to be president. When Trump is president, we're going to win. This guy doesn't even WANT to win. He likes losing so much he wants to stay in the race just so he can keep doing it. Little Rubio. This guy couldn't make a deal to save his life. If someone wanted to convince him to play Russian Roulette, he'd probably agree to put a bullet in all 6 chambers as long as he got to go first. That's not a deal folks. When Trump is president there won't even be any Russian Roulette, that's what kind of deals we're going to have.

It's going to be ridiculous how much we win.[/QUOTE

You do realize why he is doing this, right? It is because the next time he runs for president again he can say that he fought till the very end.

He's also doing this to try and take any votes he can away from Trump and force a brokered convention, it's the same reason Kasich is still in the race.
 
Long primary seasons are beneficial to democracy. It allows for the vetting of candidates, refinement of political movements, and allows for candidates to gain recognition. Obama wouldn't be president without the prolonged primary system.

People who don't like it, what problem are you thinking you will solve by having a single day primary?

I guess the argument is more about in-house fighting when the primaries drag on for too long. Which I think it's true but I still prefer long primaries.
 
Exactly what I said, why does the South and it's opinions as a regions get talked about way more than any other region of the United States?

Does it? Seems like the Rust Belt and the Mid-west get huge amounts of coverage during elections. I mean you've heard the GE expression "as goes Ohio, so goes the nation" right?

Why is the Southern Strategy a thing? It seems unfair to me that the South gets all this fixation over everywhere else.

Southern strategy really isn't a thing anymore insofar as it decides elections. Majority of Southern states voted against Obama in the GE in 2008 and 2012. Didn't matter, he still won.
 
Long primary seasons are beneficial to democracy. It allows for the vetting of candidates, refinement of political movements, and allows for candidates to gain recognition. Obama wouldn't be president without the prolonged primary system.

People who don't like it, what problem are you thinking you will solve by having a single day primary?

I don't really know how I feel about a one day primary but I do hate just how long the presidential process takes. I would be ok with shortening it at least a couple of months
 
Caucuses make sense if you want only the most dedicated people voting. I think it's bad, but you have to consider how it benefits a party.

More states should happen at once. I'd be happy to see Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada be clumped together on one day.

That idea heavily favors the richest and most well-known candidates.

The races initially being in fewer states and smaller states allows lesser known candidates to compete for attention. If candidates had to be campaigning all across the country at the same time, only the most well-funded and already established candidates would be able to get broad support.
 
Exactly what I said, why does the South and it's opinions as a regions get talked about way more than any other region of the United States?
lol it's not that hard to understand, the South is the most populous region in the US, 37%.
 
The hell would that accomplish. Unless there is legit fear Trump could win the general vs. Hillary or Bernie.

That's actually the best idea if you want to destroy the Republican party. There's no chance Kasich wins the nomination outright, so the only thing it does is up the chances for a brokered convention. If they still go with Trump, then no change, if they go with someone else, Trump wreaks havoc. I don't see any way it could increase the Republican chances of winning the general.
 
Southern states are contested areas in primaries on both sides. In the general election, it's the least relevant area, since it's all red (other than Florida).
 
On the other hand that would make it nearly impossible for smaller candidates to gain traction.

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Primary system needs an overhaul but having one nationwide primary is not the solution.

Southern states are contested areas in primaries on both sides. In the general election, it's the least relevant area, since it's all red (other than Florida).

North Carolina went Obama in 08 and narrowly went Romney in 12.
 
Does it? Seems like the Rust Belt and the Mid-west get huge amounts of coverage during elections. I mean you've heard the GE expression "as goes Ohio, so goes the nation" right?
Maybe it's because I live in the South and I'm just bitter about living here but it feels like there's been a big South fixation since Bush 2000 and I've been really tired of it.

Majority of Southern states voted against Obama in the GE in 2008 and 2012. Didn't matter, he still won.
Weren't they really influential though for the last three before Obama though?
 
That idea heavily favors the richest and most well-known candidates.

The races initially being in fewer states and smaller states allows lesser known candidates to compete for attention. If candidates had to be campaigning all across the country at the same time, only the most well-funded and already established candidates would be able to get broad support.
That's true. Well, I'd rather have the first couple states either be swing or more representative of the national population. Iowa and New Hampshire are white heavy.
 
Maybe it's because I live in the South and I'm just bitter about living here but it feels like there's been a big South fixation since Bush 2000 and I've been really tired of it.


Weren't they really influential though for the last three before Obama though?

Only Florida was. Ohio is just as important though.
 
Nope. The focus would come earlier. You don't just vote for whose served up in that instance.

A smaller candidate can build up momentum by having a better than expected result in an early state. If we did all the states at once, I highly doubt that would be possible. The amount of people in the field would still be huge because low result candidates wouldn't drop out, and the big name would win. I don't think smaller candidates would get any focus. Also lesser known candidates might run into financing issues there. Imagine if Biden had decided to run with that system? Bernie would be a whisper on the wind.
 
Southern states are contested areas in primaries on both sides. In the general election, it's the least relevant area, since it's all red (other than Florida).
We'll see, Texas might switch in the not too distant future. Hispanics are on the rise, in Houston White people are already the minority and are only 2% above african americans.
 
We'll see, Texas might switch in the not too distant future. Hispanics are on the rise, in Houston White people are already the minority and are only 2% above african americans.

Oh, I have no doubt that Texas will become a swing state within the next decade or two.
 
Maybe it's because I live in the South and I'm just bitter about living here but it feels like there's been a big South fixation since Bush 2000 and I've been really tired of it.

I mean there's a big fixation on Florida, but the South is usually spoken for as safe red.

Weren't they really influential though for the last three before Obama though?

They're pretty safe Red expect for Florida. Flip Ohio in 2004 and you get a Kerry win. Flip Florida in 2000 and you get a Gore win. Most Southern electoral college votes went to Bob Dole in 1996. I think Bush and Clinton drew pretty even on Southern electoral votes in 1992 though.
 
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