My theory was that he got caught up being a kid and trusted someone that was like a father figure to him.
Erased (Boku dake ga Inai Machi) animeTV|OT| If I could turn back time, If I could..
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Erased 10
Lots of talk commenting if it was good, or it was bad, or it was disappointing, it was "this year's Sankarea" or "this year's Parasyte", etc.
I think we have this variety of opinions because it isn't as simple as saying this series is bad, or this series is good. I think the problem here is that parts of Erased are very good and other parts are pretty bad. It's... uneven like that. In the end, I think the best is to summarize it like this:
-The direction of this episode has been very strong. Well directed. In fact most of the series has been well directed. It's an important part of the quality of the anime.
-The script, in things like how it handles the interaction between the kids, and some powerful emotional scenes, has been pretty on point.
-But in other parts the script isn't as good. For example, every time the story has presented an antagonist on screen has been kind of laughable, from the eevil Kayo's mom and bf, to the super-suspicious from the first episodes teacher.
-After that, there are problems with the story's structure itself. I think the the part where he returned to the present and he had some silly adventures just to come back again to the past were worthless, and in fact it contained some of the low points of the script, like the killer going for Airi and the police being super stupid, to the story of Airi's father and the famous chocolate bar.
-There is an argument that some people did of how it would have been even worse if the killer was a character taken out of nowhere, instead of being a logical if unsurprising choice. While that's true... it actually indicates a problem elsewhere in this series. I mean, why do we have to limit to choose between 2 bad outcomes? It isn't like the story should have been a murder mystery where the audience has to guess who is the bad guy, with all mind games, Rokka-style, but with a more proper planning in the structure of the story and the character something better could have been done.
Lots of talk commenting if it was good, or it was bad, or it was disappointing, it was "this year's Sankarea" or "this year's Parasyte", etc.
I think we have this variety of opinions because it isn't as simple as saying this series is bad, or this series is good. I think the problem here is that parts of Erased are very good and other parts are pretty bad. It's... uneven like that. In the end, I think the best is to summarize it like this:
-The direction of this episode has been very strong. Well directed. In fact most of the series has been well directed. It's an important part of the quality of the anime.
-The script, in things like how it handles the interaction between the kids, and some powerful emotional scenes, has been pretty on point.
-But in other parts the script isn't as good. For example, every time the story has presented an antagonist on screen has been kind of laughable, from the eevil Kayo's mom and bf, to the super-suspicious from the first episodes teacher.
-After that, there are problems with the story's structure itself. I think the the part where he returned to the present and he had some silly adventures just to come back again to the past were worthless, and in fact it contained some of the low points of the script, like the killer going for Airi and the police being super stupid, to the story of Airi's father and the famous chocolate bar.
-There is an argument that some people did of how it would have been even worse if the killer was a character taken out of nowhere, instead of being a logical if unsurprising choice. While that's true... it actually indicates a problem elsewhere in this series. I mean, why do we have to limit to choose between 2 bad outcomes? It isn't like the story should have been a murder mystery where the audience has to guess who is the bad guy, with all mind games, Rokka-style, but with a more proper planning in the structure of the story and the character something better could have been done.
I don't really mind a shift in focus to the killer, but how does that come about? As an anime, Erased is pretty non-committal about characterizing the teacher. Behaviorally he's depicted as fairly normal, so the shift to a character spouting absurd ideals who throws his life away over what seems like nothing is pretty jarring.
And the scene of betrayal just feels so flat. For all this build up, the killer identifies themselves to the world just to buckle Satoru into the passenger seat and let him drown in a car. There's not really a physicality to things, or a back and forth, or anything that seems like it'd sate this new side of the teacher revealed inside the car ride.
On the other end of things, Satoru doesn't feel particularly sincere with how he operates at this point. His emotions feel heavily concealed, and there's not much background or insight offered into the character. As the story heads into its final stages there's a greater importance placed on who Satoru was and who he is going to become, but I don't really feel like the show has offered adequate perspective into Satoru's life. In a world of absent father figures, what was his dad like? What kind of manga artist was Satoru and what kind of views did he hold? Time after time it just seems like his desire to be a superhero is being pushed, but it's hard to even tell how selfish that wish is.
And the scene of betrayal just feels so flat. For all this build up, the killer identifies themselves to the world just to buckle Satoru into the passenger seat and let him drown in a car. There's not really a physicality to things, or a back and forth, or anything that seems like it'd sate this new side of the teacher revealed inside the car ride.
On the other end of things, Satoru doesn't feel particularly sincere with how he operates at this point. His emotions feel heavily concealed, and there's not much background or insight offered into the character. As the story heads into its final stages there's a greater importance placed on who Satoru was and who he is going to become, but I don't really feel like the show has offered adequate perspective into Satoru's life. In a world of absent father figures, what was his dad like? What kind of manga artist was Satoru and what kind of views did he hold? Time after time it just seems like his desire to be a superhero is being pushed, but it's hard to even tell how selfish that wish is.
The tension didn't come from "who the killer was" because for that to happen, you'd actually have to have some suspects. The tension came from "when" the killer would reveal himself to Satoru. There were several times before this ep where I was expecting a "This isn't my car" moment from him.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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kinda stopped watching my series and ive been catching up tonight, so far on episode 5 and jesus christ this anime is bad for my heart
Kayo's and Satoru's relationship is still considered the better part of the anime. I don't blame the studio. The ending part of the manga feels pretty weak for most of the time, with the timelines etc making my head spin. Gonna be pretty tricky trying to adapt it into the show
cj_iwakura
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Why isn't that the translated title? Erased has nothing to do with the real name.
Cornbread78
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12 episodes is what was announced, so only two more. The manga readers have all warned there is A LOT of material to cover in order to finish the whole story with only two 20 min episodes.
I still think most of it can be cut rather effortlessly.
I think so too.
But they haven't proven themselves to be that good at cutting things so far, so who knows how many plot holes they're going to open up with the remaining 2 episodes.
Barajas_201
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I knew it. Waaaaay too many coincidences in this episode with the teacher appearing everywhere. Can't wait for next episode, maybe Satoru with inception his revival power and get out of this with knowledge of the killer.
Satoru didn't even talk until the car was sinking. What the fuck. Lackluster is an understatement.
I finally watched Episode 10. I'm still wondering why it is entitled "Joy". Something did feel a bit off to me during the goodbye scenes with his mom and his friends (promising to call his mom, his friends remarking that he makes saying a big deal of saying farewell and that they'll just see him tomorrow). Curious to see where the show goes from here.
Oh, and how could I forget.
Oh, and how could I forget.
WeaponKnight
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I think it's because that's what Yashiro felt. And also to mislead us into thinking he would save Aya and everything would be joyful in the end.
Cornbread78
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Thursday is not coming soon enough.
Yeah I suppose that works out. The teacher did seem mighty pleased with himself during that whole scene near the end after all.
Erased 11
Hmm, I'm pretty conflicted. The pace was rather weird. Like they had several scenes they wanted to animate and they put them all in this episode. It was rather lacking, and I have a feeling that I should have read the manga already, because this seems to be the anime's mistake. If everything that happened on this episode was stretched to 2 or 3 episodes, I'd have left speechless, because there were several great moments.
The episode starts with a rather shocking development, I really didn't expect them to go that way. And the scenes that followed were pretty devastating. But for the plot's sake, a lot of it was fast forwarded... And then we're back to more scenes with the killer (*crows fly*), which gave me a feeling of uneasiness. Really chilling, especially the show's opening and how it ended. But the rest got fast forwarded too. Fuck this shit. Ridiculous.
One more episode and I'm off to the manga.
Hmm, I'm pretty conflicted. The pace was rather weird. Like they had several scenes they wanted to animate and they put them all in this episode. It was rather lacking, and I have a feeling that I should have read the manga already, because this seems to be the anime's mistake. If everything that happened on this episode was stretched to 2 or 3 episodes, I'd have left speechless, because there were several great moments.
The episode starts with a rather shocking development, I really didn't expect them to go that way. And the scenes that followed were pretty devastating. But for the plot's sake, a lot of it was fast forwarded... And then we're back to more scenes with the killer (*crows fly*), which gave me a feeling of uneasiness. Really chilling, especially the show's opening and how it ended. But the rest got fast forwarded too. Fuck this shit. Ridiculous.
One more episode and I'm off to the manga.
DarknessTear
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Episode 11
My emotions were turbulent the entire time. Why is this show so good?
My emotions were turbulent the entire time. Why is this show so good?
Cornbread78
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Erased ep.11
I don't even know how to feel about that episode; it was excellent and the Kayo part was really good, but it kinda broke my heart for Satoru. Best mom continues to be best mom, but now, how is he going to get out of the situation he is in? At least he spent some time working his butt off to try and get back together physically.
Airi has to be completely out of the timeline, now, right? I kept thinking there was a link there between the time leaps, but I guess not., unless she is the one that rushes to save the day somehow, but he wouldn't know her, so.... Dammit, I have to wait another week now!
I don't even know how to feel about that episode; it was excellent and the Kayo part was really good, but it kinda broke my heart for Satoru. Best mom continues to be best mom, but now, how is he going to get out of the situation he is in? At least he spent some time working his butt off to try and get back together physically.
Airi has to be completely out of the timeline, now, right? I kept thinking there was a link there between the time leaps, but I guess not., unless she is the one that rushes to save the day somehow, but he wouldn't know her, so.... Dammit, I have to wait another week now!
MetroidPrimeRib
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satoru got ntr'd
you snooze you lose
you snooze you lose
SolidSnakeUS
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My god we need the last episode! C'mon!
Episode 11 was fucking fantastic. Felt sad and happy with the stuff with Kayo.
Episode 11 was fucking fantastic. Felt sad and happy with the stuff with Kayo.
Cornbread78
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Satoru totally dies next week as I thought. I'm actually pissed at this outcome.
The changes in the OP brought up in the other thread.... yeah, uugghh
http://imgur.com/a/AdVRG
The changes in the OP brought up in the other thread.... yeah, uugghh
http://imgur.com/a/AdVRG
The Purple Pill
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I am so bummed over they changed such an important scene, well they changed/rushed/removed a lot, but this single scene change, is just too much.
Airi, where are you!?
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
Yo that opening tho, shivers man.
Talk about "Erased" am I right?
Talk about "Erased" am I right?
as if his supervillain evil grin and treatise about how being evil is just a way to fill the void weren't enough, this episode really drove home the teacher's pure evilness by having him murder not one, not two, but seven hamsters and implying he plans to kill a little girl with cancer.
there were some good moments this episode (love the change to the OP) but the way they're handling the villain is some breaking bad season 5 "the enemies are literally slave-keeping drug-dealing nazis" levels of cartoonishly evil
there were some good moments this episode (love the change to the OP) but the way they're handling the villain is some breaking bad season 5 "the enemies are literally slave-keeping drug-dealing nazis" levels of cartoonishly evil
MetroidPrimeRib
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Since this is from the same director of Sword Art Online, I expect Teach's reasoning will be
"I forgot"
"I forgot"
CreeperBlocks
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Episode 11
THAT Opening was very disturbing. Also you can see
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH this show. I really hope they end this show right but i'm keeping my expectations low. They can still fuck up this show in 20 minutes next episode. I know it's a pet peeve but I wish this episode was an hour instead, I think this episode needed to be longer.
This was a much better episode than previous ones, It was really moving to see Kayo again...who did she say she married....? any way. Next Thursday can't come soon enough.
The Teacher is a piece of shit though. He's getting into DIO territory
THAT Opening was very disturbing. Also you can see
Webs above Kayo, Satoru's Mom and Airi when the Teacher appears in the opening.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH this show. I really hope they end this show right but i'm keeping my expectations low. They can still fuck up this show in 20 minutes next episode. I know it's a pet peeve but I wish this episode was an hour instead, I think this episode needed to be longer.
This was a much better episode than previous ones, It was really moving to see Kayo again...who did she say she married....? any way. Next Thursday can't come soon enough.
The Teacher is a piece of shit though. He's getting into DIO territory
killer rin
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I will preface with that I went ahead and finished up reading the Manga after last week since the killer had been revealed in the show (which I was waiting for), though I will stay away from future spoilers like I have always done
First of all, I loved the Opening. It was extremely disturbing since they outright just cut Sataru out of it. It's not often a show does something like this, and they pulled it off wonderfully. I will say, I teared up so much during the first half of the episode. The mother continues to prove that she is the best Mother, and the scenes with all of Satarus friends coming to visit also got me... especially with Kayo. They were really well done.
That said, once we got to the second half where Yashiro's re-appearance comes into play all I could see was how they completely changed up the Manga. We were wondering how they were going to end this out, and it looks like we are going full Anime Original Ending.
First of all, I loved the Opening. It was extremely disturbing since they outright just cut Sataru out of it. It's not often a show does something like this, and they pulled it off wonderfully. I will say, I teared up so much during the first half of the episode. The mother continues to prove that she is the best Mother, and the scenes with all of Satarus friends coming to visit also got me... especially with Kayo. They were really well done.
That said, once we got to the second half where Yashiro's re-appearance comes into play all I could see was how they completely changed up the Manga. We were wondering how they were going to end this out, and it looks like we are going full Anime Original Ending.
On the one hand, I kinda like that better than what they did, but on the other hand, (manga spoilers)
what's the explanation for why Airi's at the hospital in the first place, and why would she come visit Satoru a year or two later, since they wouldn't know each other at all in this timeline?
killer rin
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(Manga Spoilers)
Well, in the manga Airi being at the Hospital was a coincidence type thing. I believe she was there for volunteer work, and she happened upon Sataru and Kumi while they were being stalked by the paparazzi's. As for how he gets his memories back
The meeting with Airi is what brings back the memories of the previous timeline where his mother is dead and his friends have been killed. This starts to form cracks that he starts to question for why he knows exactly what happened to his band of friends while he was in a coma, despite not being told by them. The example given in the manga is the Graduation Field Trip and a new scene that happened on that field trip where Kazu gets into a fight with some Tokyo school students and drags Kenya into it. They both get their asses kicked and in the previous timeline Sataru had used Vaseline to clean and cover the wound, whereas in the new timeline it was Hiromi who used the Vaseline while Kayo distracted the teacher
No idea really, it's why I actually sorta like the anime here more then the magna in that respect. However, I did feel that the episode should have been like 10 minutes longer.
Cornbread78
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Next week, those black bars are mine...
There is no happy ending here, is there. I'm sad...
There is no happy ending here, is there. I'm sad...
CreeperBlocks
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I can see it being completely different from the Manga. I Too want a happy ending
Wow, that episode went by so fast. It was really good. I was right that Yashiro would save Satoru after Satoru said he knew Yashiro's future. I did not see the 15 year coma coming though. If there was an apt time to use "Mom's are tough" then this is it. The damn gall of Yashiro though. Not only that, he was targeting Kumi! I like how the episode opened and proved that he was very much the profile of a serial killer. Kayo and Hiromi getting married was a surprise. Also, looked like Kenya and the reporter were basically investigating about the killer and knew Satoru's coma related to it. I wonder if he finally stops Yashiro, whether he will go back to his original time, and would it undo anything in his present.
So, what I think will happen in the last episode is:
Satoru will explain he had his memory for a while and it shows a flashback of him discussing stuff with Kenya and stuff. Telling him who the murderer is and they set things in motions before it goes back to the present and they'll catch him.
Shouta
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Technically, no. What he wanted to do was save his mother and he thought that he could do that by saving Kayo and the others. More generally, he's always felt compelled to do what was right during Revivals and often he suffered for it.
Yeah and saving his mother involved finding the killer, once had saved the initial victims and found the killer everything comes out right. I just made that point since some people thought that Satoru wanted Kayo.
Barajas_201
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The teacher is straight up evil, my god. This episode had a very Butterfly Effect vibe especially because Satoru doesn't hook up with his childhood crush, very similar to the movie. Why is Satoru thinking to confront the teacher in a very weak state? Unless he was faking not being able to walk for a while but he doesn't look like he'll be able to fight him.
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