The patreon directly adds to the total for the goals reached and the funding amounts can vary based on what you want. The twitch subscription is set to $5 and will be something extra they get on the side. If you're interested in any of the higher goals, like Damiani's new show, or more retrospectives, it's better to pledge $5 (or more) on patreon as it counts towards that goal rather than $5 on twitch.
Ex-GameTrailers staff announce new project EasyAllies
- Thread starter Mushroomer25
- Start date
Really concerned over using Patreon since, I mean, can't subscribers drop off? That'd mean cutting back on content, which then causes people to loose interest. Death spiral.
If it's short-term, and they're looking to source financing from more reliable means asap, cool. But I can see this collapsing in on itself after the honeymoon hype rather quickly.
If it's short-term, and they're looking to source financing from more reliable means asap, cool. But I can see this collapsing in on itself after the honeymoon hype rather quickly.
DannyDanger
Member
Are there any examples of this happening? You can't lock people into a contract to be funded for things like this, so I don't know what else they could do. Advertisers don't pay enough and people adblock even if they did.
I do see whatever the patreon figure ends up being at the end of the day, dropping over time. But hoperfully that will be mitigated by new people discovering their content and contributing to the patreon as well and not getting caught up in the hype. I'm sure there are people who have put up pledges higher than they really can afford consistently, so a drop off is inevitable. But I don't think it's going to be a death spiral or anything like that, especially if they leverage their initial popularity to get marketing deals, and do merchandising (which they've already mentioned they're doing).
I was a happy at 10k but 20k if sustainable will be amazing. I think that the audience that gametrailers have, are at 25 and up which have disposable income that can support $5 to $10 a month. The YouTube comments when gametrailers was up was also more grounded as YouTube comments can be.
If they are smart (and i think they are) as soon as they start they will have additional sources of income. That includes merch, paid promos (there is nothing bad doing those in right way), affiliate links for Amazon for example, before/after show ads, Twitch subs...
Charles Alan Ratliff
Member
This was a nice thing to wake up to. I'm happy to see their Patreon doing so well. I like their announcement video.
TC McQueen
Member
Not in California. The cost of living is ridiculously high there, especially since most of them live in/near LA.
Orthogonal
Member
Holy Shit, the Patreon is really taking off. It was at $6K when I went to bed, now over $15K.
Going to put my money where my mouth is and support them like I said I would. Pledge inbound.
Going to put my money where my mouth is and support them like I said I would. Pledge inbound.
I'd say it's pretty likely. The west coast hasn't really woken up yet, and not everyone checks gaf/twitter/yotube everyday.
It's slowed down, but it's still going up. I expect it to go up again when the stream starts, and when people start finishing work/school. 20k by the end of the day is amazingly possible.
ZeroMaverick
Member
But there's, like, so much you don't know about their financial lives. Is Colin still paying his student loans? Does Nick own or rent his house? A bunch of stuff like that that can impact how much they're making and how much EZA is going to make--or how much either side needs to live comfortably. You just don't know.
how about
/jk, but Eazy-E was the first thing that popped into my head when I saw their logo
To me that's like a professional athlete saying 10 mil per year is not enough. It's all about context, and responsibility with money. No way in hell they were making anywhere near 10k per year at IGN. These guys are doing well.
Roberto Larcos
Member
Worth noting that they have a second Patreon, which brings them to a nice even $60k / month (before fees). I expect Twitch subs and Twitch donations help a fair bit too.
I basically think it would be amazing for them if they could afford paying the whole staff the salary they used to get at Defy with the same benefits. That would then give them more control over their own destiny and more possibility for growth in the future. That would be a good starting point. But we don't know how much they were making a year and I honestly don't want to speculate either. I wonder how much they were expecting to make with this, but I genuinely think the 50k goal is attainable.
Can confirm, live is Los Angeles. If I moved out of the city on my Salary id live like a king.
Kralamoonard
Member
Just to quote Galactic Mouse
You're also making a lot of assumptions on each member's respective financial situation which is all relative. Yeah they may have said they're secure, but we don't how "secure" that is IYGM.
No it's not bullshit. And yes, they are financially secure. I don't ever remember them saying "great" (so perhaps a source would be appreciated), but it's all relative. (See post above).
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Hope it works out for them.
First thing I noticed. No Bosman show, no support.
MultiJhonny
Banned
Yup. And they also have sponsorships too. They are on another level
The show (and his podcast) are both coming! They're just not a stretch goal on Patreon. Assume the Patreon money just helps with the production values of the show, but it's happening regardless. Kyle clarified this on twitter, and said he was hoping to have the first new Bosman episode up this week.
A Bosman show will be done regardless of what patreon goal they reach.
He's doing a more casual Bosman show on his own YouTube channel that EasyAllies will also host.
Edit : Alright, I was beat. A crapton.
The number shown on their Patreon page is after these expenses are removed. This is a true estimate of how much the content creator is being given. In reality it's much more when you include Patreon's cut, and the admin fees, etc.
that sounds comforting. It makes me really happy to think that we might be getting pop fiction back...
Just out of curiosity, what would you estimate to be a "good enough" yearly salary for living in LA?
Kralamoonard
Member
Oh really, I never actually knew that. Thanks for the info. Do Patreon say that in their ToS or something. or how did you know?
Scrotum Phillips
Member
I am THRILLED to have the opportunity to support this group. Also glad that Bosman clarified his "casual Bosman" will be hosted on EZA channel as well.
Only concern is the exclusive early podcast access. I will obviously be supporting them on Patreon and will get the early access, but I listen to podcasts all day at work. While the video is great, I can't say i've ever watched a GT Time because i've always just listened to them at work. Also, video drains my lame data cap so running it while at work is a no go. I download podcasts on my home wifi to avoid eating away at my data.
Listening to news-ish types of podcasts with dated information is kind of a huge drawback to me.
My suggestion i'll throw out into the ether...GT Time-ish new podcast upload to itunes same day as recorded (same as they did at GT) and have podcast 2 be the one that is exclusive early as that deals with less time sensitive material.
Only concern is the exclusive early podcast access. I will obviously be supporting them on Patreon and will get the early access, but I listen to podcasts all day at work. While the video is great, I can't say i've ever watched a GT Time because i've always just listened to them at work. Also, video drains my lame data cap so running it while at work is a no go. I download podcasts on my home wifi to avoid eating away at my data.
Listening to news-ish types of podcasts with dated information is kind of a huge drawback to me.
My suggestion i'll throw out into the ether...GT Time-ish new podcast upload to itunes same day as recorded (same as they did at GT) and have podcast 2 be the one that is exclusive early as that deals with less time sensitive material.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Bosman will have a show, just not tied to patreon goals.
He is doing a new show for the channel, it just is not tied to any specific funding.
I'm curious of that too. GT guys are in LA, but KF is in San Francisco, where it's expensive as fuck to live. That's probably why Greg and Colin are probably still living in a shared apartment like college kids - keep living expenses to a minimum.
The show is happening! Just not tied to a stretch goal, it was gonna happen regardless.
https://twitter.com/KyleBosman/with_replies?lang=en
Ultimadrago
Member
Watching some Pop Fiction right now. Man, so good.
if you click the little "i mark" in the "per month" label you can see the details
CGwizz
Member
Jesus... he said he will do it on his youtube channel ... sigh
Bosman is involved, he'll be doing podcasts and streams, and his own show that will be hosted on their youtube channel.