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Lord Virgin
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Good, no killing rule is dumb af. Get 'm Bats.
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Batman v Superman Spoiler Thread: Don't believe everything you read, Son
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Good, no killing rule is dumb af. Get 'm Bats.
GringoSuave89
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I think, between his comments about how he needs to be better for [Superman's memory], and how he didn't brand Luthor, he's going to soften up a bit. Still go nuts on a fucker, but not be so blood thirsty.
I mean, did you see it? Plenty of positives to be found in the impressions.
GringoSuave89
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Trailers don't even come close to what we get. I'm of the belief they were edited in such a way that it seemed rushed, when it really threw us off the bigger shit.
Get the fuck out of here-are you serious??
To be fair, the weird armor shit is worn over his actual costume. It's probably some time travel suit to help him make the leap. I honestly didn't get a stellar look at it, but it looked interesting enough without it actually being the final suit.
Future Foundation
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The "doesn't seem like" makes it sound like he didn't.
GringoSuave89
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saw it in IMAX, but it was digital which might make a difference. Every scene filled the screen. Nothing went letterbox or anything like that.
Dash_Riprock
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For once, I completely agree.
Yeah the dream sequences were so freaking weird. And wait that was Flash!?. I was just thinking exactly the same thing what the hell was that?.
GringoSuave89
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only shitty part about the ending was that we won't get any follow up on it until Justice League. MAYBE in the Wonder Woman bookend sections, but probably not.
Seriously. I was like ok guess Bats threw his no kill rule out the window. He was ruthless. I was sitting there like ok I've never seen Bats straight murder goons.
The Driver
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Idk. You could most of the vehicle kill stuff also occurred in the Nolan trilogy, though yeah, this Batfleck would just shoot a car until it exploded instead of merely crushing or ramming it to shit like Bale did.
He seems like for the most part his rule is still there but he plays it loose based on the situation. He does murder that guy who was gonna torch Martha but he leaves most of Lex's goons alive outside of the grenade guy. I'm okay with it. People are def gonna be up in arms about it though.
Of course he'll be back, no doubt about it.
The one thing I do know is that Max Landis is gonna have a field day with this movie.
His video about the Death and Return of Superman is gonna get a lot more play in the next few weeks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PlwDbSYicM
His video about the Death and Return of Superman is gonna get a lot more play in the next few weeks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PlwDbSYicM
I could've sworn he was firing at people or going for kills by shooting at explosive stuff before he got that flamethrower guy. Either way was def the most brutal Bats I've seen in any adaptation.
Yep did not notice any weird formatting at my IMAX screening. Every scene filled up the screen.
The Driver
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Reading back a few pages I'm not surprised by the hate for the Flash suit, it was pretty odd looking but I dug it, even the weird motorcycle helmet visor.
Shouldn't worry too much about it though. They seemed to have went through a lot of trouble to essentially obscure all the costumes of Flash/Aquaman/Cyborg during their cameos as they are probably being finalized.
Suit also could have been from a Flash based on the alt Darkseid future, and something to help boost his abilities to run through time.
Miller definitely did the look no favors though with tha ratty beard.
Shouldn't worry too much about it though. They seemed to have went through a lot of trouble to essentially obscure all the costumes of Flash/Aquaman/Cyborg during their cameos as they are probably being finalized.
Suit also could have been from a Flash based on the alt Darkseid future, and something to help boost his abilities to run through time.
Miller definitely did the look no favors though with tha ratty beard.
broncobuster
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Sure. I'll post it tomorrow when I copy it from my ticket.
Shouldn't really expect the guy to shave for a tiny cameo. He's clean shaven in all concept art for JL.
Speaking of cameos, was that Miles Dyson as Silas Stone?
greendomo's ghost
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Saw it in actual imax, the most notable scene was the main battle is all Shot in imax. The opening and ending sequences too. Maybe 20% of the movie.
greendomo's ghost
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Mostly negative reactions imo.
Maddocks
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Just came back from the screener, loved loved loved it and The Flash, dat power. So happy he made a cameo. His armor suit looked pretty badass to me because it makes sense, he is this incredible force of power from the looks of it and he is going through time and he is also from a dark dark future. He would be armored up with what they are fighting. I liked it.
Wonder Woman was great, loved how she got hit and smiled, Batman was in I don't give a shit mode, no doubt it is due to the death of Robin that he is no longer sticking to his no kill rule and is now,"fuck all of this" rule and I do think that speech he gave about failing him in life and won't do it in death is actually about Robin and not Superman. I just really loved the meta humans intro with the videos.
Wonder Woman was great, loved how she got hit and smiled, Batman was in I don't give a shit mode, no doubt it is due to the death of Robin that he is no longer sticking to his no kill rule and is now,"fuck all of this" rule and I do think that speech he gave about failing him in life and won't do it in death is actually about Robin and not Superman. I just really loved the meta humans intro with the videos.
Damn, that makes me even more depressed now. Thanks!
Freewheelin'
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Batman's no kill rule is silly anyway. Who is to say he doesn't punch someone so hard they haemorrhage and die? Who is to say when he drops Maroni from the balcony and breaks his legs it doesn't lead to complications? Who is to say when he jumps on Scarecrow's van a bit of glass smashes from the window and impales him in the fucking brain
so many variables
I'm all in for a murderous Batman #stopthehypocrisy #killbabykill
so many variables
I'm all in for a murderous Batman #stopthehypocrisy #killbabykill
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Lord Virgin
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Killed in the comics, in the Nolan movies and the Tim Burton version. And Superman also killed; both in comics and previous movies.
I rather my heroes not be acting like the fucking Punisher. In today's climate, I'd rather see heroes atleast fucking try to be better than that. I totally get the Zod thing etc., as that emotionally and narratively feels justified. But just offing dudes left and right? Nah. Fuck that.
Even if this is supposedly Batman in a dark pit, being way more brutal and branding dudes who end up getting killed in prison, that feels like something to come back from. But if he's just straight up shooting regular-ass goons himself, that ain't fucking cool.
Doesn't really work when injustice makes a big deal out of killingIt's not a problem that Superman and Batman are cold blooded killers in the DCCU because Justice League is just going to be an adaptation of Injustice. Book it!
Doesn't really work when injustice makes a big deal out of killing
Just like fans watching Snyder movies then?
BronsonLee
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thecouncil
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The Batman introduction scene where the cops find the branded criminal is... awesome. The thing about Affleck's Batman is that it's one of the first times I understand why criminals would be afraid of him.
Freewheelin'
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I don't see how Batman committing manslaughter through assault or being an accessory or precursor to murder is much better than committing it himself.
thecouncil
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Well, in this movie, he basically does all of that.
Freewheelin'
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Yeah, I don't really have an issue with it. Always find it odd that people think batman killing is so heinous when all of his other actions could easily lead to death. It's okay to smash someone's face in and potentially give them brain damage or lead to whatever else, but not to kill? Odd.
the_batman
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fuck that. i knew this movie was a joke.
thecouncil
Banned
I doubt people will be ok with any of it here. But it's only because of how brutal he is portrayed. Nolan and Burton Batman's also killed people but this Batman is just flat out nuts.
I think another issue people will have with him outright murdering is "why doesn't he just kill Joker?" Though,... maybe he will.
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Lord Virgin
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You haven't even see....ugh nvm.
His punishment must be more severe.
The no-kill rule is a core part of the characters identity.
I would be okay if after Jason's death, he became careless and lost his way.
As long as Superman is a course-correct, I happily accept this interpretation.
Like with Superman in MoS, the characters do not need to be perfect from the beginning, they just need to get to right destination.
I would be okay if after Jason's death, he became careless and lost his way.
As long as Superman is a course-correct, I happily accept this interpretation.
Like with Superman in MoS, the characters do not need to be perfect from the beginning, they just need to get to right destination.
Freewheelin'
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I understand it's 'part of his identity'. I just think it's strange when that identity also extends to hospitalising, severely damaging and injuring people to such an extent that death isn't too farfetched a possibility.
Same shit happens in Daredevil. It's hilarious. He is so hellbent on not killing or letting other people kill, but he has no qualms with doing a double somersault to smash his heels onto the face of someone already down.
beyond_death
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Maybe he HAS killed the Joker and the rumours were all true. Uh oh.
But seriously though, Batman killing might be something I'll just have to get over I guess. I need to see how its handled in the movie.
Batfleck is almost a 1:1 size up of Millers Dark Knight Returns Batman which many people love and many also consider one of the better stories.
the_batman
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why would i need to see Batman ruthlessly killing people to make judgement?
and i've already seen 300, Watchmen, Man of Steel, etc. i know his movies are all style over substance.
yeah, he does seem to be that version of Batman, which is pretty ruthless.
but it doesn't make sense to adapt that version for the Justice League.
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Lord Virgin
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So knowing that he kills is enough reason to say the movie is a joke? Without seeing you know, the movie itself? Good to know.
the_batman
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what redeeming qualities are there?
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