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Batman > Superman: Dawn of Justice |OT| Enter the Knightmare
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Fuck, I love DC but its so disheartening to see this is the payoff for waiting 3 years after MoS and I liked MoS too so to hear this a step down fuckiing sucks.
DC knows how to do good movies and shows but why they can't seem to do it here. They need to ditch snyder, I'm a fan of his work but his vision isn't the one that's gonna take the DCEU to MCU level.
Oh well, I hope suicide squad and bats can save it all oh and they should move up the Shazam movie, I want to see black adam in action super bad.
DC knows how to do good movies and shows but why they can't seem to do it here. They need to ditch snyder, I'm a fan of his work but his vision isn't the one that's gonna take the DCEU to MCU level.
Oh well, I hope suicide squad and bats can save it all oh and they should move up the Shazam movie, I want to see black adam in action super bad.
have you seen the movie?
You're definitely not alone. I really liked it.
First half is ok. Second half is a mess. Batfleck and jeremy irons are great together. I hope to see more of them in the future.
Lex was... ok. That's not the lex luthor i have in my mind. But i didn't mind his weirdness and manneirisms. And i don't get his master plan. What's his end goal?
I'd rank BvS slightly below MoS.
Lex was... ok. That's not the lex luthor i have in my mind. But i didn't mind his weirdness and manneirisms. And i don't get his master plan. What's his end goal?
I'd rank BvS slightly below MoS.
This is the last day of reviews summed up. It became a contest of who can say the most outlandish shit judgment.
It's pretty obvious he hates Superman for what he is and stands for and also hates to see anyone more powerful than him.
I've just seen it - I don't get the overwhelming negativity surrounding this movie. It feels very different that the past Batman Trilogy and the Marvel movies which comes at no surprise. It's more in line with Man of Steel (duh) and has some problems.
BUT it's by no means worse than most of the Marvel movies. It handles Batman well, Superman okay, has kinda interesting themes, has a weird Lex Luthor with no clear agenda - a standard superhero movie last third. It falls into the same trap many Marvel movies fall into. A very interesting setup, a good second act watered down by a not completely thought out or faceless villain followed by a firework of explosions.
All of that amounts to a solid superhero movie. Not great, not bad.
I liked some things a lot. Some people are complaining about the beginning - it was a really interesting way to start the movie and to portray everyone's motivations. I also liked the slow setup. The music was pretty great - especially the Wonder Woman theme. The cinematography was pretty well done too most of the time.
The
sequence was weird, but if you can roll with it, it was very interesting. I'd love a whole movie like that.
People going in expecting the best thing ever or something as good as the Dark Knight won't find it here. People who go in looking for every little piece to complain about, will find plenty - but you can find stuff like this in most movies. Especially Superhero movies.
If you watch this movie with adjusted expectations you're gonna have a good time - I guess. Depends on how you roll.
I enjoyed it more than Man of Steel, a lot more than The Dark Knight Rises and possibly Age of Ultron. And I'm excited for the extended cut and whatever they do next with this universe.
P.S. Alfred was great!
BUT it's by no means worse than most of the Marvel movies. It handles Batman well, Superman okay, has kinda interesting themes, has a weird Lex Luthor with no clear agenda - a standard superhero movie last third. It falls into the same trap many Marvel movies fall into. A very interesting setup, a good second act watered down by a not completely thought out or faceless villain followed by a firework of explosions.
All of that amounts to a solid superhero movie. Not great, not bad.
I liked some things a lot. Some people are complaining about the beginning - it was a really interesting way to start the movie and to portray everyone's motivations. I also liked the slow setup. The music was pretty great - especially the Wonder Woman theme. The cinematography was pretty well done too most of the time.
The
Batman vision/nightmare
People going in expecting the best thing ever or something as good as the Dark Knight won't find it here. People who go in looking for every little piece to complain about, will find plenty - but you can find stuff like this in most movies. Especially Superhero movies.
If you watch this movie with adjusted expectations you're gonna have a good time - I guess. Depends on how you roll.
I enjoyed it more than Man of Steel, a lot more than The Dark Knight Rises and possibly Age of Ultron. And I'm excited for the extended cut and whatever they do next with this universe.
P.S. Alfred was great!
Lex Luthor in this is trying to break down the notion of a hero, and show the world that even the god they worship (being Superman) can be broken. It's what I got out of the movie as a whole, that heroes aren't always heroes because they are called that and that they do hurt those they are trying to save.
I just don't get the whole argument from reviewers that it has no humour like Marvel. Sure it isn't as "lel look at me being funny" but it does have quips from the characters, especially Alfred. Going into the cinemas with reviewers stating there was no humour and then having humour just made realise even more that these reviews are trash (in my opinion of course) and just rushed to get that negativity circlejerk.
I watched The Avengers without seeing their previous solo movies and it didn't bother me.
I loved it.
Though I am a big comic book fan and I know who all the characters are but still....I didn't have to see their solo films.
DrForester
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I am ready for the Suckening. Theater will probably be full by showtime. LOTS of kids in the audience.
This is too positive. Burn him at the stake!
This from a cancelled WW show or something?
beyond_death
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Good to see people seeing this and forming their own opinions.
crazyrabbits
Banned
Yeah, the Adrienne Palicki pilot (David E. Kelley?) that never got picked up to series.
You mean will. It's coming this October, and yes, I think it's easily salvageable by a good cut, because the story is good.
Ok. I get that.
But his plan could have ultimately killed everyone.
I think his motivations makes sense. But not his actions.
So I watched this yesterday.
It has a few problems (pacing and editing can be weird, also like we really needed
) and a few great scenes, but I'd say overall the good ended outweighing the bad for me so it's a solid but not mindblowing movie, which is a shame because it could and should have been one.
Definitely better than MoS though.
It has a few problems (pacing and editing can be weird, also like we really needed
to see the deaths of the Waynes again... twice
Definitely better than MoS though.
It would definitely have helped with some of the quirks, but not everything.
Same here.
That
was Barry doing what Barry does best, fucking with the timeline. Seems like the closest to a live-action Flashpoint Paradox we'll ever get.
To an extent, I can feel where they are coming from. The themes in this movie and MoS are a bit more brooding and the atmosphere is more down to earth and a bit darker. On top of that we are missing a character that is throwing out banter all the time during action. Sure, there is humor, but the dose is completely different from what we are used in superhero movies - especially the Marvel movies.
But yes, I don't understand most of these reviews neither...
Failed experiment gone wrong basically. He had his intentions but like every failed experiment it becomes clear he was wrong, in that aspect. Doesn't mean he'll stop though in trying to prove that heroes aren't heroic.
While I absolutely did love the movie for what it was, a comic book movie, I've only got one review so far that I agree with and that's Marc Fennell. He's a reviewer for Triple J in Australia and his review of BvS is on-point, though I still thoroughly enjoyed every minute of the movie.
Yes, it's not weird in the way what it's portraying, but in the way they incorporated it into the movie.
It is pretty important for Bruce's motivations to end Superman, but the way it's randomly thrown into the mix and accepted by Batman is just weird. Everyone I went with who isn't into comic books at all and just watches the movies and the tv-shows had no idea what the hell that was. It's weird having the Flash directly speaking to Batman without knowing who he is and what his powers are. And it will be interesting what Story beats and designs they revisit in the coming years. Will Louis die anyway? Will the Aliens look like that?
I did not expect much from this movie, or any movie for that matter, but holy shit, this was abysmal. Out of my 10 friends only like 3 of them "liked" it (and "liking it" is an overstatment). Not gonna even bother with writing up all the negatives. Oh an by the way I enjoyed MoS (it was around 7/10 for me), this movie? 4/10
Ah, yes, absolutely and definitely agree on that.
ArtHands
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Not sure if it will save the movie but it desperately needs a director's cut imo.
Movie has too much baggage fillers that weighs it down.
Seen it, solid 7 out of 10. Entertaining but not the big step up from MoS that I'd hoped for. The big problem is it it doesn't deliver the way that say, the Avengers did. It's not ok for The Batman V Superman to end up as a decent popcorn flick. I was never wowed. The fact that it didn't live up to expectations is why it's getting exaggerated as a terrible film. It's better than Batman forever by far, yet has reviewed worse. That's just dumb.
Batfleck was great though, I'm officially sold on him. Gal Gadot also performed well, i'm certain her solo film is going to work. Supes is just alright.
Batfleck was great though, I'm officially sold on him. Gal Gadot also performed well, i'm certain her solo film is going to work. Supes is just alright.
Shamrock7r
Member
Well Batman Forever's rating is more a product of it's time. If a Batman movie like that came out today I doubt it would hit 5%
Bear Force One
Banned
I really loved it barring some small issues. Best most epic third act in any hero film by far.
Ben Affleck as Batman was pretty much praised by everyone, so he definitely wasn't the problem (from the reviews I've read). I'll see it sometime this weekend to pass final judgement unless something comes up.
....are you talking about the first Iron Man?
shit, this movie might turn out better than I thought!
He was a problem.
For me the best character in the film was Wonder Woman without a doubt. She might be the only character I didn't hate outside Jeremy Irons...because I can't humanly hate Jeremy Irons.
serenewarfare
Banned
Just got out. First impression is that I liked the movie quite a bit. Kinda long and drags at points as most movies of its length do, but I loved Affleck and Eisenberg. I thought Gadot has potential as WW but
Cavill was fine enough, though I did like the stuff between he and Lois. I was entertained throughout most of it. I give it a thumbs up, and I was pleasantly surprised.
we just didn't see enough of her to make a definitive judgement IMO.
Terareflection
Member
Very divisive here, people either hate it, or think it's ok and much better than reviews say.
Surprise surprise. People I trust and share common tastes with really enjoyed it and that's very encouraging.
Reviews are kind. It's right about where it should be. My Amazing Spider-Man comparison is valid. It's almost the same movie.
Lionel Richie
Member
Saw it earlier. Sorry to be blunt and I really love these movies and loved MoS, but this one is a piece of shit. The plot has more holes than actual plot, the screenplay is atrocious. The good points are that Affleck was very good as Batman and Gadot is fine as fuck.
Believe the hype, this one is a dud.
Believe the hype, this one is a dud.
KoruptData
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Loved it. Fucking fantastic DCU movie.
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