Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain
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Awful in ways I didn't expect and in ways I did.
When it isn't a bore the film is a mess. It's like a bad fan film with a budget, which makes just too much sense.
It isn't just regular awful. It takes things I love from comics, specific moments, and does them beyond terribly.
When it isn't a bore the film is a mess. It's like a bad fan film with a budget, which makes just too much sense.
It isn't just regular awful. It takes things I love from comics, specific moments, and does them beyond terribly.
Napoleonthechimp
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There are moments that are a little odd and he didn't get any kind of arc due to him starting and ending deranged and hateful, but I didn't consider him to be awful.
I honestly think this film is only for fans.
Can you make me a gif of the moments in that scene where Batman looks horrified and is making faces?
Gordon Shumway
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If speaking on the action sequences alone, what's your rating from 1-10?
bananafactory
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Damn.
Disappointing. I know - I thought that would be the hook for me, but they all kind of sucked except for the BvS showdown, which still wasn't that crazy. I expected more from Zach.
Except for the fans who didn't think it was very good, of course!
WadiumArcadium
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Glass Shark
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Meawhile, in Half in the Bag news...
inject it into my veins
I need this to sustain life
Bobby Roberts
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Do white people have their own Jordan Face now?
You didnt asked me,
but the two or three bigger Batman scenes are amazing and the big highlights of the movie. We get one which is really horror-movie-like and sets up the Dark Knight perfectly and why people are afraid of him.
Then we get a great Batmobil chase which is not as good as the chase of TDK, but still.
Then we have a scene where Batman fights a group of goons, the one from the trailer. This one is...
FUCKING AMAZING AND THE BEST IN THE DAMN MOVIE!
The final showdown is awful shit, I had no idea what was going on, but at least Wonder Woman was great.
The fight between Batman and Superman was garbage and boring. First time I hoped the movie ends soon.
Then we get a great Batmobil chase which is not as good as the chase of TDK, but still.
Then we have a scene where Batman fights a group of goons, the one from the trailer. This one is...
FUCKING AMAZING AND THE BEST IN THE DAMN MOVIE!
The final showdown is awful shit, I had no idea what was going on, but at least Wonder Woman was great.
The fight between Batman and Superman was garbage and boring. First time I hoped the movie ends soon.
The Batman scenes are 8/10-10/10, the other like 2 or 3/10.
Agree with all of this. The last scene in particular is just a big bowl of WTF.
DrForester
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Thor 2 was a bit of a bore. I'd put it low on the MCU list, but above IM2.
I loved the first Thor though. For a studio that plays it safe with the MCU, I give them credit for going with a Shakespearean guy like Branagh. Pairing that up with space, Norse gods was brilliant.
Glass Shark
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Yeah, Batman / Affleck is the best part of this movie by far, but not enough to save it.
AlfredX1990
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Well, over 220 reviews now and still 30%
Anybody guessed 30% in the predictions thread?
Anybody guessed 30% in the predictions thread?
Gordon Shumway
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Hmm..I'm ok with that, I guess. I'm really in for Batman, so if his parts are that good, I'm sure I'll be happy with it. Superman remains the part I HOPE I like better than MoS, but besides Angry Joe, I haven't heard much positive..
lol..holy shit.
Trolls, but no one serious. I had it at 78-80%..clearly A little off lol.
I keep saying: They should have put a different director on their Justice League build up, put Snyder & Frank Miller on a balls-to-the-wall The Dark Knight Returns movie later down the line. It's clear that's what he wanted to make but he had to do all this other Justice League shit.
Everyone wants to berate Snyder for this, and while I'm certainly no fan of his, it's clear WB just put the wrong guy on the wrong movie.
This whole scene was introduced poorly in the movie. So jarring. If you are not familiar with the comics you will be scratching your head as to WTF just happened.
This was me. I seriously have no fucking clue what it was about. Can someone tell me the right stuff to Google so I can read up on it?
That and future Flash showing up for me was so bizarre, was that a dream sequence also?
TheDinoman
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Meawhile, in Half in the Bag news...
Oh man, my most anticipated product of this year right now.
IMO, Superman here is much worse than MoS, partly because of Cavill's bland performance (not entirely his fault given the total lack of material he's given) but mostly because I just don't like Snyder's vision of Superman or his treatment of Superman as a plot device rather than a character.
Someone else pointed this out in another thread, but Superman barely even talks in this movie. Whatever he believes, whatever values he holds dear, go largely unspoken.
I hesitate to bring up another Marvel comparison and derail the discussion, but Captain America does a much better job of laying out his views and defending himself in the Civil War trailer than Supes does through this whole movie.
Batman and Superman were my two favorite heroes. I write my own comics now because of the mountain of comics of their adventures I had growing up. They inspired me, and you bet I dressed up as them for Halloween, birthdays, and weekends (my fiance tells me I need to cut back).
... I absolutely hated this film and I hate its portrayal of my two favorite heroes more than anything. While it's not QUITE as bad as what Other M did with Samus Aran, I definitely felt the same way about the film after the credits rolled.
My prediction was 58%. I thought, "no way can it do worse than Man of Steel. It has Batman!"
That was my absolute lowest estimate and I still missed it by a whopping 28%. Surreal.
4.
Not a spoiler, but some might not want to know.
You've seen the best bits already, except one sequence in the first half.
Liquidsnake
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That is a man!!!!!!
Primethius
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I'm a huge Superman fan. This movies Superman can go fuck right off.
Also, completley agree with the assessment of action scenes from earlier. The Batman stuff was the only good stuff, with his last hand to hand fight actually being amazing and my personal highlight of the movie.
Have you seen it yet?
Meawhile, in Half in the Bag news...
Oh boy
friskykillface
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well that part is pretty good, I love chaos scenes like that in movies, batfleck the god
enjoy the okness of the movie, solid 5/10 B^)
Great scene, would just have hoped that Bruces would habe used some of his superhero skills.
Gordon Shumway
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GabeTheGrouch76
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Needless to say, I was pretty off on the RT calculations (the positive one moreso). I didn't expect the RT score to be this low.
That said, the MC score is at 44 right now, so I was at least right on that bit.
Speaking of RT scores, the following is more of a general response to those who agree or think likewise, but for clarification I'll just be responding to this quote in particular:
Actually, I don't think most reviewers are making it out to be outright bad either. Most reviews reaction from how I see it looks closer to polarized or unimpressed, rather than downright disgusted. It's worth noting that in contrast to RT's 30% score, RT's reviewer average rating is at 5.1/10 and Metacritic's score for the film (which factors in positive, mixed, and negative reviews) is at a "mixed" 44 rating. That points it more towards a mediocre reception rather than decisively bad one in my opinion.
In regards to the RT 30% rating, the percentage score is broadly calculated on whether a reviewer can be simply categorized as positive or negative in their review of the film. In BvS's case, general sentiment from reviewers seems to be noticeably further towards the negative end of the spectrum, hence most reviews counted by RT are being counted as "negative" about the film.
(Speaking as someone who hasn't seen the film and as of the moment isn't making any plans to.)
JadedWriter
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Sounds like somebody couldn't handle Cavill's Virility.
I'm actually contemplating seeing this after work, just to get this shit out of the way...
No fucking way
that was a "nightmare" - Those flying things are parademons, which are like Darkseid minions. See them here: http://static3.techinsider.io/image/5660a936c2814469008b73b1-994-616/parademons.jpg
That whole sequence was a by product of the Flash time traveling (back) from an alternate future. Bruce saw into an alternate future reality where Supes is under Darkseid's rule.
That whole sequence was a by product of the Flash time traveling (back) from an alternate future. Bruce saw into an alternate future reality where Supes is under Darkseid's rule.
And that's why I say the movie does a poor job at explaining that scene. General audiences will be like "WTF".
Maybe it is meant to be a "WTF" moment but I don't like how it was done.
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This whole scene was really amazing. You can feel Bruce Wayne's really pissed off at Superman.
Saint Gregory
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I haven't even seen the film yet and this was exactly my opinion on this. If the film is ultimately a disappointment financially then the producers and executives who oversaw the film are the ones who should be held responsible.
Zack Snyder didn't misrepresent his talents and he was clear in his vision for this franchise starting with MoS. If WB thought Snyder's directional choices were off in the first movie there was more than enough time between the two films to make adjustments. They were surely watching dailies of the work as it progressed and were comfortable with what they saw or the film would have seen reshoots.
This was WB/DC's vision for the DCU, not just Snyder's.
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orthodoxy1095
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oh my, please, hurry up.Meawhile, in Half in the Bag news...
Ok, I forgot this one, you are right.
This is beautiful.
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