Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain
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I didn't post a prediction, but I would've gone with something higher than what MoS got. Not much higher, but an improvement.
Pai Pai Master
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Thor 2 isn't really a bad movie, just kinda boring. Which might be just as bad for general audiences, but if you like Thor and Loki it's at least a mildly entertaining romp.
I think it "deserves" this score, which is a weird way of phrasing it. The average rating is a 5/10, with 3/10 critics saying its fresh. Seems spot on.
Some of the review language is craaaaaaazy intense, which is fine, this movie is problematic, but I think people are seizing on that.
Some of the review language is craaaaaaazy intense, which is fine, this movie is problematic, but I think people are seizing on that.
the metacritic is higher than it, so yea
its definitely janked out of proportion
That's two times Snyder has tricked us.
You will believe that man can actually direct a good movie.
Napoleonthechimp
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Neither did I.
It is so odd that it makes me question every other score that comes out of the website.
if civil war is bad I'll cry. spidey is in it god dammit!
Just came back from seeing the movie, it's pretty good honestly, my only issues are the pacing (sometimes too fast, sometimes too slow) and Jesse's performance as Lex Luthor, but the movie has some really good parts and I honestly believe it doesn't deserver nearly as many bad scores as it got, not a straight 10, but definetly a 7.
Captain America has the Russo Bros on it and they blew me away with Winter Soldier.
BvS had Zack Snyder on it, following up Man of Steel.
I don't even need to see the reviews to get a pretty good guess on which one would do better with critics.
echoshifting
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*sigh*
For the 1,000,0000th time...
The RT percentage is binary. Positive reviews go in this pile. Negative reviews go in that pile. That's it. It measures scores too, but that's not the tomatometer.
The average score reported on RT is 5.0. Metacritic is 44%. Score-wise, they are almost exactly the same.
Literally just laughed out loud.
I'm having a bad today too, so thank you.
That's how I feel about Thor 2 as well-not bad at all, just kind of....dull.
Sometimes you just have to take a leap of faith. The trust part comes later.
The mixed takes on it in this thread has me feeling that the reviews are a bit hyperbolic.
I predicted 75... which I knew at the time was probably high, but whatever. I definitely didn't expect this.
Nor do I think it deserves it, fwiw
To be fair, Rottentomatoes' method of aggregating critic scores means that films that average a 6 to 8/10 review get clumped together in that 65-95% range, while score that are lower than 6 drastically fall off.
Thor 2 has a 66% RT rating off of a 6.2 average
BvS has a 30% RT rating off of a 5 average
To me, 4-6 out of 10 is that mediocre to OK range of films. However, on RT, that covers everything from 20%-65%.
Glass Shark
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I have to admit that in some bizarre way I'm glad I saw this movie on Monday night so I could form my opinion (that it's terrible) so that no one can claim I just jumped on a negativity bandwagon.
BronsonLee
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Gordon Shumway
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Then I'll assume the same people who said to ignore the score/Marvel payed the reviewers will say the same..😕
Awkward from the first response.
Affleck looks dead inside.
Batman v Superman |OT| World's Finest Bros?
I've always had the impression that the Thor movies were Marvel's popcorn films -- self-aware and entertaining without complex sub-plots.
Piku_Ringo
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Wow. I thought we were friends man.
That F2P cash-in game is getting better reviews than the film.
Thor 2 is absolutely a bad film.
Seems like a lot of people don't understand what the RT score means. It's simply the percentage of critics that think the movie is worth watching, in their opinion. It's not a review score. The average review score is 5/10, which...isn't great either. But it's not a 3/10 movie.
Gordon Shumway
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People will never understand it, especially those who reference and use it all the time.
flaxknuckles
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Now ask yourself if you are okay with the first Justice League film being just a 7/10 movie. These reviewers are doing God's work to get Zack off JL.
The Metacritic score is actually lower than the average score on Rotten Tomatoes. 44 for the former compared to 5/10 for the latter.
Once again, the Rotten Tomatoes percentage is not an aggregate rating of the movie, it is the percent of critics that gave the movie a positive score, aka a score of 6/10 or above. 30% of critics gave the movie a score of 6/10 or above, and the other 70% gave it a score below 6/10, and the average rating of all reviews is 5/10.
Pai Pai Master
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Yeah which is fine I guess, outside of GAF people seem to dig them. For such a middling movie Thor 2 did pretty well. It just means that they can't reach the full potential of what a Thor movie could be, which I think would be much more successful.
They seem to realize that they need to change things up for Ragnarok. I know the word is overrused, but Thor is the one MCU property which i feel should be more "epic" in scope.
Definitely a couple of missed opportunities, but not garbage movies.
Logically every movie should be matinee status whenever possible. Ticket prices are outrageous when you think about it.
Yeah, I don't mind RT from a binary yes/no perspective but the actual numbers lose meaning at the outer edges of the bell curve. Metacritic is better in that regard, though I don't always agree with some of the numerical scores they assign to specific reviews.
Imperfected
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The worst part of it for me is that "Batman vs. Superman" is one of those "playground euphoria" concepts that should be the most exciting thing in the world for every pre-teen boy in America. It is--let's be perfectly honest--dumb as shit, in a fun dumb way similar to "Who would win in a fight, the Ninja Turtles or the Power Rangers?"
And they decided to make a movie that kids probably wouldn't want to watch even if they were allowed to, out of a conceptual kernel that's radically inappropriate for the sort of serious, adult drama they decided to make.
Everything about this film is just horribly mismatched.
friskykillface
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will be worse for spidey since people will blame spidey for the bad reviews
when its all said and done, this was a solid 5/10 , "watchable" - friskykillface
I'm not sure that makes it better. Actually by that explanation the bar should be lower, making th RT score should be higher than the review score. 3 out of 10 people on average thinking the movie is worth watching is ridiculously bad. Like beyond bad.
Gordon Shumway
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Tell me about it. I watch no other way unless forced..
Obviously not, but saying a movie is the worst movie they've seen in their entire lives and saying Marvel did it better isn't gonna do anyone a favor.
My opinion stands, the movie is good, the editing was bad.
JadedWriter
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If the tickets aren't sold out and I can get a decent seat I'm off to see this shit.
So people shouldn't form their own opinions, and instead only watch films that get good reviews?
Am I supposed to spend my valuable time and money on every piece of shit movie that comes out simply in the name of having opinions?
If you're interested in seeing batman and superman battling it out, it's exactly what you're gonna get, it at least, has its fair share of spectacle.
It's not a Green Lantern situation. It's more of a twisted dark vision and poorly edited movie packed with a great cinematography and some cool sequences.
It is entirely mixed with awful and good things. I think many people would agree that it has to be seen. You'll either think it's OK and entertaining, or think it's so bad it will be fun.
Zantetsuken
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Why have an opinion at all? Let others dictate what you watch, eat, drive, read. It's a one time purchase.
That's a bit disengenuous too though. Plenty of people didn't have a good time at all.
There's nothing with using reviews to try to make an informed decision of how to use your time and money
echoshifting
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I do tend to weigh reviews for basically all of those things
You'd buy a car without reading about it first? Really?
Pai Pai Master
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You don't read reviews before buying a fucking car???
Gordon Shumway
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Why does this keep happening? lol..
A review of a car and a review of a movie or art in general is not comparable.
echoshifting
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I didn't float the comparison
Zantetsuken
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Way more money involved. Of course I would. The problem is that media is way more subjective. In the grand scheme a Friday night movie watch is not a big deal.
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