Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain

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echoshifting said:
I do tend to weigh reviews for basically all of those things

You'd buy a car without reading about it first? Really?
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Spending 10 bucks vs spending 10000. Come on.

If you had a slight interest into it, and you have so much mixed reactions going on, you might want to see for yourself.

That's if you have some time and disposable income of course.

At the very worst what is happening, you're losing 3 hours of your time and 10 bucks, at best you'll be having a decent time for the spectacle in the middle of bad decisions.

I personally was entertained.

I kinda hate the situation where I end up being a defender of a movie that I think is really flawed, but yeah I had more fun watching this than Thor 2, by a whole lot. It at least tried something instead of relying on the blandest shit ever.
 
Gordon Shumway said:
Why does this keep happening? lol..
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I don't know but here

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Let's enjoy the spectacle.
 
Zantetsuken said:
Way more money involved. Of course I would. The problem is that media is way more subjective. In the grand scheme a Friday night movie watch is not a big deal.
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Why is it so important for you to dictate how people decide to spend their time? Why are you attacking people for taking reviews into consideration before deciding how to spend a few hours and a couple bucks? Whether it's for a meal, a movie, a car, a house, whatever, another person's opinion shouldn't dictate every decision with certainty but why is it so hard to understand someone might want to take such things into account when making an informed decision?
 
A guy I know just told me I didn't "get" the movie because I only read my comics on TPBs instead of hilariously expensive singles


...Wow.
 
As someone who vehemently criticized Man of Steel, I found myself enjoying BVS a lot more than I thought I would.

Not for the story or anything, but for the same reasons I loved Noah; uncompromising and alienating filmmaking that feels so weird that you don't know if you're supposed to be in awe, laughing or crying.

The last act of the movie, I was giggling to myself out of schadenfreude for what everyone else in the theatre were going through.

It's a loud, alienating, uncompromising spectacle in all its horrible glory.
 
-griffy- said:
The Metacritic score is actually lower than the average score on Rotten Tomatoes. 44 for the former compared to 5/10 for the latter.

Once again, the Rotten Tomatoes percentage is not an aggregate rating of the movie, it is the percent of critics that gave the movie a positive score, aka a score of 6/10 or above. 30% of critics gave the movie a score of 6/10 or above, and the other 70% gave it a score below 6/10, and the average rating of all reviews is 5/10.
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I remember reading a while ago that the critics can submit their own 'fresh/rotten' rating separate from their review score. Is that not the case anymore?
 
Fj0823 said:
The Snyder we need but not the one we deserve.

His actual written answer would've been way more interesting...

"Neither of Us"
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Eh...his writing has been going downhill, especially on batman, Court of the Owls was his highpoint. Everything about his joker was bad.
 
Fj0823 said:
The Snyder we need but not the one we deserve.

His actual written answer would've been way more interesting...

"Neither of Us"
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Yeah, that's a nice answer (and great way to open an arc).

Ghostmaster said:
Eh...his writing has been going downhill, especially on batman, Court of the Owls was his highpoint. Everything about his joker was bad.
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While I agree he's been getting progressively less, I dunno, 'convincing' in his writing, I will say I really enjoy his take on Joker. He's nightmarish.

Also, his high point was undoubtedly Black Mirror.
 
Looks like my RT score prediction was way off. After the reviews started trickling out, I figured it'd be lackluster, but even I was surprised with how bad it was. Yet, I still decided to see it. I didn't think the movie itself was completely terrible. There were moments where I was moderately entertained, inbetween the moroseness and general inanity. I realize this is daming it with faint praise though.

Also, since the editing was so awful, I was wondering who was the edited it. Turns out the editor, David Brenner, won an Academy Award. This movie was both written and edited by Oscar winners. It's not like an Oscar is the best barometer of quality, but I'd at least expect a certain level competency with it. I'm suspecting this mess is all due to Snyder.
 
Ghostmaster said:
Eh...his writing has been going downhill, especially on batman, Court of the Owls was his highpoint. Everything about his joker was bad.
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I've enjoyed the entire run. Not a bad arc in there except maybe the Clayface 2-parter

I think when the dust is settled it'll take its place among the classic runs on the character. Especially if you include his pre-52 stuff.
 
Was anyone else put off
by Lex Luthor’s urine became a plot point in the movie? Holly Hunter, did you even read that script before you signed on? You’re better than the scene where you stutter while looking at a jar full of Luthor’s piss.
 
Just got back from watching it, got some free time before Sunday, so thought why not. I don't think I've ever left the cinema with such mixed feelings about a movie before.

I didn't love MoS but I liked it, so expected this to be the same or similar but I'm really finding it hard to like it more than MoS at the moment.

There's just far too much crammed into it and it's not a great movie for that reason. It's like there are 4 movies merged into one (MoS 2, a Batman movie, a Doomsday movie and a Justice League setup movie) and they don't get enough time to fully develope and as a result it seems rushed.

There's some good ideas but they are executed poorly. The Batman / Superman fight is awesome but the movies ending fell flat for me, Doomsday is wasted here and the trailers definitely gave away pretty much the whole movie.

Some great bits but sadly disappointing overall.
 
rou021 said:
Also, since the editing was so awful, I was wondering who did it. Turns out the editor, David Brenner, won an Academy Award. This movie was both written and edited by Oscar winners. It's not like an Oscar is the best barometer of quality, but I'd at least expect a certain level competency with it. I'm suspecting this mess is all due to Snyder.
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Reminds me of how The Last Airbender had great quality behind the camera, although I doubt the quality of BvS is anywhere near that bad. If you haven't seen the Folding Ideas episode about that film it does a great job breaking down what it does wrong (and why it seems to be mostly Shyamalan's fault).
 
Fj0823 said:
A guy I know just told me I didn't "get" the movie because I only read my comics on TPBs instead of hilariously expensive singles


...Wow.
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He has a point. If you cut BvS into 10 minute chunks and watched them a month apart, you probably wouldn't complain as much about disjointed storytelling. Clearly the issue is that your TPB habit has lead you to feeling entitled to experience a story in one sitting as a coherent whole.
 
kswiston said:
He has a point. If you cut BvS into 10 minute chunks and watched them a month apart, you probably wouldn't complain as much about disjointed storytelling. Clearly the issue is that your TPB habit has lead you to feeling entitled to experience a story in one sitting as a coherent whole.
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Fucking Brutal.

I'll send him this right now.

You're my new best friend.
 
Just got back and wow. Screw the critics, just go see it. I can't wait for the Blu Ray to see how the deleted material fleshes out some of the scenes.

On the way out, I heard several people say they can't believe it but they want to go see it again.
 
echoshifting said:
I've enjoyed the entire run. Not a bad arc in there except maybe the Clayface 2-parter

I think when the dust is settled it'll take its place among the classic runs on the character. Especially if you include his pre-52 stuff.
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I appreciated his Riddler arc because while not perfect, he himself admitted how hard it is to write Riddler as a guy actually making riddles, and I'm glad he focused on that instead of making him Joker-lite like most other writers.

But his Joker, I can't, that stupid face-off, face-on thing, almost as ridiculous as that All star-batman Red Dragon tatto, but not ridiculous enough.
 
My current prediction is this will have the legs of a lead balloon after this weekend, but I'm genuinely curious. A handful of outliers aside impressions are running the gamut from serviceable to awful (I'm pretty deep into that was freaking awful camp).
 
trikster40 said:
Just got back and wow. Screw the critics, just go see it. I can't wait for the Blu Ray to see how the deleted material fleshes out some of the scenes.

On the way out, I heard several people say they can't believe it but they want to go see it again.
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"Don't listen to what critics have to say but believe me because I think it's good!"
 
trikster40 said:
Just got back and wow. Screw the critics, just go see it. I can't wait for the Blu Ray to see how the deleted material fleshes out some of the scenes.

On the way out, I heard several people say they can't believe it but they want to go see it again.
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So what you're saying is some scenes weren't fleshed out?
 
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