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Batman v Superman Spoiler Thread: Don't believe everything you read, Son
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I was actually kind of laughing how often the movie played "Keep the naughty bit off camera". First with Lois in the bath, then with Zod's junk.
FlashbladeGAF
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So did Jenny lose a brother or is this another coincidence with 2 characters having the same name?
The red coats are coming! But, hickery dickery dock. Also, what is the oldest lie in the world? The devil will kill god, but only if man doesn't kill god, who created god; who is god really??
Lex Luthor talks like one of those AIM Chat bot AIs that fuck up after a while. Nothing but nonsensical gibberish most of the time that it supposed to sound smart, but isn't.
FlashbladeGAF
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I mean he clearly is the SmarterChild of his dear father
BewareTheBatsie
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Jenny hasn't been given a last name but honestly up until finding out the guy in the beginning was Jimmy, I always just thought that they decided to switch Jimmy's gender or something.
The most frustrating is the way Lex dances around his his motivation for wanting to discredit Superman. He keeps talking about needing to show the world gods can bleed but it never feels like a complete justification.
I'll say this, actually - there was one line that I kinda liked that said more about Lex's motivation than anything else. It was when he was going off like a broken robot during the party and he's like "knowledge is power but knowledge can't tame strength which is paradoxical" or some shit.
So in the end, it all boiled down to ego really. And that he saw Superman as this check to his superiority.
Which is fine, but it made all his other nonsense all the weirder.
BewareTheBatsie
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Watch Justice League debut on Easter Sunday as Superman resurrects.
LMAO
Holy shit...
Glass Shark
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Did I imagine it or did Lex use the "Do you know the oldest lie in America, senator?" line twice with two different responses?
This broke my brain because I kept expecting a rule of threes thing to happen.
Well... at least no one can say Snyder isn't devoted to his shtick.
This broke my brain because I kept expecting a rule of threes thing to happen.
Well... at least no one can say Snyder isn't devoted to his shtick.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
hahaha fuck
They were trying to make it this movies "Wanna know how I got these scars?"
Hylianhero777
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funkystudent
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ThoseDeafMutes
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He got cut off the first time he delivered the line didn't he?
Also the movie came out on Thursday in Australia, if that's what you mean. I don't recall any dates in the film.
The first two people in line for the showing I was at were teenage girls wearing batman shirts. I felt sorry for them for having lined up so early for the movie.
Also the movie came out on Thursday in Australia, if that's what you mean. I don't recall any dates in the film.
The first two people in line for the showing I was at were teenage girls wearing batman shirts. I felt sorry for them for having lined up so early for the movie.
SJRB
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They puller a TDK Joker with that.
The movie ends with Superman beginning to come back to live in his casket.
I should go and have a talk with them. If only I could go back and warn my teenage self.
I was wearing a Robin shirt. :c
Glass Shark
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Yeah that's what I figured. But it had no payoff! Like the whole time I was sitting there thinking, "Ok, he's going to say the line one more time and get interrupted or someone is going to have a witty retort."
Snyder can't even steal from other movies correctly, what a hack
ElBoxyBrown
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There is a moment where you can kinda see the top half of Lois' right nipple for like a split second.
Ignatz Mouse
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No.
It's slow as hell for a long time and overly-stuffed with... stuff but there's much to enjoy as well.
BlackGhost
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I saw a shit ton kids and teens wearing superman shirts. When superman died I thought damn those poor kids. First superman gets beat up by batman and now he dies. I think this movie might have ruined multiple kids days.
On a side not sure how enjoyable on a whole the movie would be or is to kids
On a side not sure how enjoyable on a whole the movie would be or is to kids
Batman works so well for random essay assignments.I did a 15-page Queer Theory thesis on Batman a couple years ago.
Disappointed that Affleck Batman wasn't gay. ¯_(ツ_/¯
If it wasn't utterly useless I'd write a doctorate thesis on Batman.
Its funny how easy it would have been to fix a bit of the film with what they have.
-Get rid of his parents stuff.
-Replace it with Robin getting killed by the Joker, probably due to his policy of not killing. (Great for a SS plug!)
-Have that work into Batman's paranoia about Superman. If he couldn't stop the Joker, how can he stop Superman? And also the fact that he feels like he has to kill Superman to stop it from happening again, like with the Joker.
Hollywood, Hire me
Ignatz Mouse
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My kids liked it, but I assured them that Superman was not staying dead.
I sound like a high school guidance counselor saying this but this film has so much wasted potential. It's as if the brain trust had the right themes and ideas, but had no clue how to actually execute them in a way that wasn't a disjointed mess. The hopping from one scene to another was jarring at times in a way that took me out of what I was just watching. The attempt to find an ending went on and on with more scene hopping. Moving from the funeral to the prison talk between Lex and Batman and then back to the funeral is an example of the awful editing that ruins a scene. I get what they were trying to do but it just seemed random.
I didn't mind Eisenberg's take on Lex (actually like it) until he started to fall deeper and deeper into some kind of crazy. Much prefer if he was more cold and calculated with hints of crazy. Dude fell off a cliff pretty fast.
Affleck was great as Wayne and Batman. Any doubt I had about him is washed and he should be killer in a solo film. Gadot has made me more intrigued for the solo Wonder Woman film (her theme is amazing). Cavill is still a wooden board which is no suprise. The supporting cast from MoS was fine but not outstanding. Amy Adams was on autopilot which is better than most.
2.5 hours and it seems like I forgot half of what happend because big chunks of it are forgettable. Snyder and crew (Goyer's fingerprints are probably still on this to some degree) need to bow out. I will give Snyder credit for being able to do action. This is the best Batman we have seen in hand to hand combat by far. His films provide a sense of power and speed to the characters that no comic based film matches. He gets some things right, but a lot of it wrong.
That being said I enjoyed it more than MoS.
I didn't mind Eisenberg's take on Lex (actually like it) until he started to fall deeper and deeper into some kind of crazy. Much prefer if he was more cold and calculated with hints of crazy. Dude fell off a cliff pretty fast.
Affleck was great as Wayne and Batman. Any doubt I had about him is washed and he should be killer in a solo film. Gadot has made me more intrigued for the solo Wonder Woman film (her theme is amazing). Cavill is still a wooden board which is no suprise. The supporting cast from MoS was fine but not outstanding. Amy Adams was on autopilot which is better than most.
2.5 hours and it seems like I forgot half of what happend because big chunks of it are forgettable. Snyder and crew (Goyer's fingerprints are probably still on this to some degree) need to bow out. I will give Snyder credit for being able to do action. This is the best Batman we have seen in hand to hand combat by far. His films provide a sense of power and speed to the characters that no comic based film matches. He gets some things right, but a lot of it wrong.
That being said I enjoyed it more than MoS.
FlashbladeGAF
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Kids loved that scene
I felt awkward for the parent that brought there kids to this.
The DKR homage with the emaciated Superman didn't work at all for me, I know it can't be the same as the comic but the scene in the comic was this interesting poignant moment and this is just pointless because he's up again immediately.
Lois throwing away the spear then immediately having to get it back was hilariously pointless, I know it was to give them a last moment between Adams and Cavil but it was so so obvious. Maybe if there was some actually chemistry there I could've hung with it. It's like the costume sucked out Cavil's acting ability and charisma whenever he had the damn thing on.
I really like the Metropolis scene, but seriously why were those people still in that building? I can't stand this Luthor I get what they were going for but nah. He wasn't threatening, he didn't come across as a brilliant businessman.
The film started to lose with with desert Batman and future (Flash...Azrael?)
I have issues with the BvS fight but the fight is so unimportant that it doesn't even mater. I will say one of the quickest post attempted murder friendships I've ever seen.
For the good things, the new Bat-Mobile is dope, soundtrack was mostly good, the scenes of Superman rescuing folk were really well done, as I mentioned the Mos finale from street view was fantastic.
Lois throwing away the spear then immediately having to get it back was hilariously pointless, I know it was to give them a last moment between Adams and Cavil but it was so so obvious. Maybe if there was some actually chemistry there I could've hung with it. It's like the costume sucked out Cavil's acting ability and charisma whenever he had the damn thing on.
I really like the Metropolis scene, but seriously why were those people still in that building? I can't stand this Luthor I get what they were going for but nah. He wasn't threatening, he didn't come across as a brilliant businessman.
The film started to lose with with desert Batman and future (Flash...Azrael?)
I have issues with the BvS fight but the fight is so unimportant that it doesn't even mater. I will say one of the quickest post attempted murder friendships I've ever seen.
For the good things, the new Bat-Mobile is dope, soundtrack was mostly good, the scenes of Superman rescuing folk were really well done, as I mentioned the Mos finale from street view was fantastic.
Liquidsnake
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Zack Subtle
This is powerful stuff
ThoseDeafMutes
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Only thing that bugged me about the spear scene was them not having Aquaman save her. With all that water and shit, I kept thinking that was the time for his cameo.
Brawndo Addict
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WrenchNinja
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now THAT would've been awful
So to elaborate on what I was saying in the other thread, the reverse engineering to get to the titular fight in this movie was pretty bad. It makes a lot of gestures toward how Bats and Supes are philosophically in conflict, but their fight does not arise out of those conflicts.
The only reason they actually fight is because Lex kidnapped Clark's mom and told him to kill Batman, or he'd kill his mom. If that wasn't there, Batman would be left standing there at the end for a really long time because Superman had no interest in just beating him up. This is also why the fight was instantly defused.
Imagine a film where the fight is organically built up to from the themes it makes gestures toward; the kidnapping is not needed to push it into starting, instead arising from Batman and Supes actually fighting over their roles in the world, and at the end they mutually realize it was Lex that was playing puppet master and team up to take him down. That's the idea the film was fumbling toward, but they couldn't figure out how to build toward it. So in the end, the big climactic fight occurs because 1) Clark is blackmailed into it, and 2) for some reason doesn't tell Batman that until he's been defeated.
Most of the runtime of this film is just wasted filler.
The only reason they actually fight is because Lex kidnapped Clark's mom and told him to kill Batman, or he'd kill his mom. If that wasn't there, Batman would be left standing there at the end for a really long time because Superman had no interest in just beating him up. This is also why the fight was instantly defused.
Imagine a film where the fight is organically built up to from the themes it makes gestures toward; the kidnapping is not needed to push it into starting, instead arising from Batman and Supes actually fighting over their roles in the world, and at the end they mutually realize it was Lex that was playing puppet master and team up to take him down. That's the idea the film was fumbling toward, but they couldn't figure out how to build toward it. So in the end, the big climactic fight occurs because 1) Clark is blackmailed into it, and 2) for some reason doesn't tell Batman that until he's been defeated.
Most of the runtime of this film is just wasted filler.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
But how would he have got there? It was an enclosed space
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