Spiritwalker
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Polygon's review is weird.. it's the only one I've seen hating on Affleck and loving Eisenberg.
Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain
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"I prefer Zack Snyder to Stanley Kubrick. That's right. You heard me. I prefer Zack Snyder to Stanley Kubrick and when you see this movie, you'll see why."
That's some IGN-level shilling. I don't believe anyone can in good conscious actually have that opinion.
ChasingComets
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No way that is happening. Too much preachy dialogue and not enough jokes and explosions until the last act.
TheSlySoul
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I would say if the movie was mostly the last 45 minutes kids would love it.
While it was dumb, I could enjoy it just for visuals alone.
orthodoxy1095
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Speaking of kids, how is the outlook for merchandising of this stuff with them? It doesn't seem as appealing as the Marvel stuff in that regard.
Lokimaru
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"I prefer Zack Snyder to Stanley Kubrick. That's right. You heard me. I prefer Zack Snyder to Stanley Kubrick and when you see this movie, you'll see why."
She said I compare him to Stanley Kubrick, not perfer.
Thats still quiete s stretch
AmaterasuOni
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Both are directors!
I want to thank the critics for bringing my astronomical hype down to Earth and allowing me to enjoy the movie. I didn't think it was bad at all, I don't watch action/superhero movies nearly as intently as you all. It was fun and entertaining for me. As a matter of fact, 3 people cried when
Some guy sniffling on my right, a lady bawling behind me, and my gf. I've never seen a movie in theaters twice besides Inception but I may go watch this again.
It wasn't THAT good but I saw it in 3D and I want to see it in 2D.
Superman died.
It wasn't THAT good but I saw it in 3D and I want to see it in 2D.
Yeah. Maybe in terms of having an eye for visual composition you could argue but that's where you'd stop.
Betty's video is a worldwide success, even Peruvian news websites are posting about it lol.
Sibersk Esto
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It's the first video in youtube's "trending" section, above some Hilary shit and the usual talk show hosts recaps.
Really incredible how stuff spreads. Betty should react to his own video and monetize it!
Bobby Roberts
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I wonder if Mitchell Hurwitz has clicked on it like "I wish people liked this gag THIS much back when I did it on Arrested Development. Jesus."
Ones a director and ones a "director"
I wish, thanks to the song monetization isn't a possibility, I'm just ecstatic it went supernova.
You win the internet today. GAF with the assist.
I know, I was just joking about the whole reaction video craze crap and stuff. I'm happy for you! I've seen it a dozen times and I still click on it every time someone links it.
Someone in the comments pointed out something I never realized, but that Peggy runs towards the grenade too.
This is the sort of things I looked for in Batman v Superman... complete and utter selflessness, of valuing the lives of everyone around you more than your own.
I think the first Captain America has a decent second-half, but the first half is just everything I wanted in a superhero movie.
Evans is absolutely the best
Bobby Roberts
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It's very much like Superman: The Movie in that way. His becoming Cap is more satisfying than his actually being Cap, but even if the overall quality takes a step down in the second half, it's still really good.
The other Superman: The Movie parallel being that there is no way people don't think Chris Evans when they think Captain America going forward. Much like Reeve became the touchstone for the character in 78.
orthodoxy1095
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I keep rewatching that Cap scene every time someone quotes Dai's post. It really highlights how Cap is Captain America before he ever gets the serum.
It should be the same way with Superman, but alas, Snyder doesn't get that. Like that review of McElroy's said, it wasn't the sun that gave him the power, it was the fields of Kansas.
It should be the same way with Superman, but alas, Snyder doesn't get that. Like that review of McElroy's said, it wasn't the sun that gave him the power, it was the fields of Kansas.
I'm so glad i unsubscribed from her after the whole pg-13 deadpool thing
Alandrus Sun
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Until I came on GAF I never realized that people had negative opinions about Cap 1, I find it to be one of the best Phase 1 films. It's next to IM1 for me.
Great work! You're the hero GAF deserves.
That's something Evans's Cap nails so well. I'm one of those guys who typically is bothered when an iconic superhero with a mask spends so much time with his mask off (Spider-man has this problem in most of his films). I'm more interested in the "hero" version than the face underneath it most of the time. I don't want to see Bruce Wayne; I want to see Batman. While Tony Stark is awesome, it gets real whenever the visor goes down. Sure, Bruce Banner is likable, but I want to see Hulk smash.
But for some reason, it's different with Evans's Cap, largely because he never needed to put on the suit - or get the serum - to be an inspirational hero. When I see him without the mask or helmet, I still absolutely, 100% see Captain America.
So watching Batman v Superman, it's so disappointing because the director doesn't "get" the characters. You can call them whatever you like, you can put them in familiar costumes, you can give them awesome super-powers and amazing abilities...
But it's not a costume, not a superpower, and not a title that made Steve Rogers a real hero. It was the person he was before any of that ever came along and it was his refusal to compromise those values and stand up to even his allies that continues to make him my favorite hero in the MCU.
I love it, just have two problems:
1 - Always find myself losing interest after Bucky falls off the cliff for some reason
2 - killing off Tucci's character was really lame
Maintenance
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We're talking about Cap? I remember when people raged that Johnny Storm was going to be Captain America.
TheAutomator
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It's funny how The First Avenger captured Superman far more than Zack Snyder ever did.
DedalusJoyce
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Cap is the best, and I love everything that you mentioned about him not needing the suit. Hell, in Winter soldier he didn't even have the suit in the two major fight scenes.
Can you guys imagine how Cap's death will be received compared to the shit ending of BvS
Can you guys imagine how Cap's death will be received compared to the shit ending of BvS
I ate SO much crow on that one. I was one of those skeptics going "Johnny Storm? The guy from Not Another Teen Movie? Pass".
Now I can't imagine the role without him. While everyone usually defaults to RDJ as "being Iron Man", Chris Evans to me does just as good a job, if not better.
I was never more happy to be so wrong.
Alandrus Sun
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Chalk me up as also being one of those big dumb idiots that doesn't care about a hero being in costume. I care about the character not the visuals. This is why I love films like Spider-Man 2 and TDKR where we get an extensive amount of time with the characters without their costume as they are actually developed.
orthodoxy1095
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Spot-on post mate. Absolutely right on all accounts. I do slightly disagree in that I like exploring "Bruce" and "Tony" a bit as well, but you really hit what makes Cap, and Evan's Cap so great.That's something Evans's Cap nails so well. I'm one of those guys who typically is bothered when an iconic superhero with a mask spends so much time with his mask off (Spider-man has this problem in most of his films). I'm more interested in the "hero" version than the face underneath it most of the time. I don't want to see Bruce Wayne; I want to see Batman. While Tony Stark is awesome, it gets real whenever the visor goes down. Sure, Bruce Banner is likable, but I want to see Hulk smash.
But for some reason, it's different with Evans's Cap, largely because he never needed to put on the suit - or get the serum - to be an inspirational hero. When I see him without the mask or helmet, I still absolutely, 100% see Captain America.
So watching Batman v Superman, it's so disappointing because the director doesn't "get" the characters. You can call them whatever you like, you can put them in familiar costumes, you can give them awesome super-powers and amazing abilities...
But it's not a costume, not a superpower, and not a title that made Steve Rogers a real hero. It was the person he was before any of that ever came along and it was his refusal to compromise those values and stand up to even his allies that continues to make him my favorite hero in the MCU.
And all those gifs? Lordy, I think I need to rewatch that movie ASAP!
Bobby Roberts
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If they actually go through with it (god, the comparisons between Marvel & DC are going to go fucking supernova like never before) then maaaaaan?
My wife is already sorta reticent to see the movie even though she fucking loves Cap more than any other onscreen superhero (thanks to Cap 1 & 2) because she's convinced they're going to do it, and she just does not want to watch that happen.
PhoncipleBone
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I still think they're gonna pull a fast one on us and kill Stark.
Gordon Shumway
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Ok..gonna make it brief.
Kudos to Affleck. He's Batman. No doubt.
Wonder Woman was fine.
Superman..I somehow liked him better in MoS..that's crazy.
PLEASE, kill off Lex Luthor.
Up until "the fight" happens, the editing and pacing was nuts..I actually laughed a couple of times. "Messy" is definitely the word to use. It was also pretty boring, imo, unless Batman was on the screen, and he was on a whole other level..I didn't see it coming, and I've read plenty of spoilers.
. I really dislike his turn around with Superman. I get it. It still felt lame to me. As usual with Snyder, the eye candy was intense and wasn't really the problem.
5/10
Got a bit of a headache from a long night and early viewing. I'll have more to say later. Seriously. Fuck Lex hard. They should have just cast Jim Carry to play the Riddler again. Geezuz..
Kudos to Affleck. He's Batman. No doubt.
Wonder Woman was fine.
Superman..I somehow liked him better in MoS..that's crazy.
PLEASE, kill off Lex Luthor.
Up until "the fight" happens, the editing and pacing was nuts..I actually laughed a couple of times. "Messy" is definitely the word to use. It was also pretty boring, imo, unless Batman was on the screen, and he was on a whole other level..I didn't see it coming, and I've read plenty of spoilers.
Holy shit. He beat Superman like a straight up chump. That was a fun watch
5/10
Got a bit of a headache from a long night and early viewing. I'll have more to say later. Seriously. Fuck Lex hard. They should have just cast Jim Carry to play the Riddler again. Geezuz..
Bobby Roberts
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I care about both. Spider-Man 2 had amazing visuals back in the day. Raimi directed the fuck out of that. I like each movie to have it's own distinct look and flavor.
I kind of hope so. I miss Downey acting in other movies besides this stuff.
Now that they have spiderman back maybe. I still think they will just kill everyone after phase 3 and reboot the universe.
Don't mistake me, I like Peter Parker and Bruce Wayne very much. But, in their cases, it often feels like there are two characters: the costume and the secret identity. Spider-man often doesn't act like Peter Parker, and Bruce doesn't always act like Batman. They put the suit on (or take the suit off) and play a role.
Which is fine, but I have a preference of which one I find more interesting (the ones with the costumes on).
But for Captain America, he's a character that is Steve Rogers at all times. Whether the suit is on or off, he's the same person, never playing a "role", and I think that's what I like about him so much. He's always the same man, never having to pretend, and he never fakes his feelings or emotions or morals. He was "Captain America" even when he was a 90 lbs. asthmatic standing up to bullies, and he was Captain America decades later in a world that viewed his patriotic ideals as old-fashioned and outdated.
That's what I loved about Superman so much too, at least the versions that do him right. One of my favorite comics has him tell Wonder Woman that she was attracted to "Superman" the hero, but that he was really just Clark Kent, a boy from Kansas. He was humble, even with his powers, and he was defined by his compassion and small-town values born from the purest form of Americana and idealism.
I'm in total agreement with what many have already said; Captain America does "truth, justice, and the American way" better than Superman does in film right now.
In both cases, Superman and Captain America aren't just superheroes. They were heroes so good, so upstanding, so inspirational and influential that OTHER heroes wished they were as noble and heroic.
They're probably fed up of paying RDJ gazillions too.
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