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Batman v Superman Spoiler Thread: Don't believe everything you read, Son

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Big Blue said:
Just saw it today.

1) Eisenberg as Lex is the worst CBM casting in a long, long time.
2) The Lois and Supes romance was out of place in such a dark film, and really took away from the final battle.
3) Affleck's Batman is the best yet, and I can't wait to see more
4) WW was pretty one note which concerns me about her solo film
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Eisenberg was a horrendous choice. Geeky Lex sucks.
 
thecouncil said:
Hey, some people around here have said it was the best part of the movie!
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The scene is cool standalone but makes no sense in the context of the movie other than to give Batman yet another reason to take out Superman (which he really didn't need at that point in the movie) and to set up a different movie. It was needless bloat. That was a good 5-7 minutes that could've been cut out of the movie to improve movie pacing which it desperately needed.
 
Shaanyboi said:
I mean... it more or less triggers Batman's actual intent on killing Superman. And I get why it's there, I get what it's suggesting, but also because I know DC Comics stuff. If I didn't? I'd be totally confused, especially when it comes out of fucking nowhere.

But if you just have Flash show up in Bruce's lair, set that scene up by him going "this is what happens to you in the future", then it atleast makes some level of coherent sense. Instead it tries being this abstract thing to the audience who wants and needs to know what it is this is suggesting.
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I thought that was the senate bombing? Which also doesn't make sense.
 
Random question for someone who probably wont see it until its on TV.

How do they handle the superman / Clark identity stuff if superman "dies"?

Just say Clark was presumed dead in whatever giant city wrecking fight takes place?
 
funkystudent said:
Random question for someone who probably wont see it until its on TV.

How do they handle the superman / Clark identity stuff if superman "dies"?

Just say Clark was presumed dead in whatever giant city wrecking fight takes place?
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They have a newspaper article saying that Clark died in the battle.
 
I guess that Flash part wasn't really a dream.

Like, he's not Freddy Krueger, right?

That portal should've ripped in during the Doomsday fight and Flash should've screamed in Bruce's face there. Haha. Just to add to the insanity. I mean, it would've probably made more sense, thinking about t.
 
funkystudent said:
Random question for someone who probably wont see it until its on TV.

How do they handle the superman / Clark identity stuff if superman "dies"?

Just say Clark was presumed dead in whatever giant city wrecking fight takes place?
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That's exactly how it happened, it was even posted as a news article on the Daily Planet. They had two funerals, one for the general public and one at the Kent farm. We don't know which body was in the funeral for the general public.
 
Sibersk Esto said:
They have a newspaper article saying that Clark died in the battle.
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With all the talk about how empty everything was during that fight, it'd be mighty suspicious that he was the one casualty alongside Superman and only one body came out of it. Haha.

Dahbomb said:
That's exactly how it happened, it was even posted as a news article on the Daily Planet. They had two funerals, one for the general public and one at the Kent farm. We don't know which body was in the funeral for the general public.
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I think they said the Superman casket was empty, actually.
 
Saw the movie today and ended up liking it way more than I expected. It was grim and dark and not a lot of fun, but I liked some of the things they were trying to do.

Some thoughts:

1. Why do they keep fucking up Lex Luthor so badly. His character is so much more than we get in these films.

2. Bale may be the better Bruce Wayne, but I really liked Aflack as Batman. I'm ready for a good stand alone movie.

3. Dream sequences were over done and didn't add much. Could have easily done without them.

4. I like how they continued to destroy the city, but it's okay this time because the area was deserted. They went to great lengths to point that out. Got a chuckle out of that just because it was a sore point last time.

5. Never envisioned Metopolis and Gotham being so close. Didn't care for that and it didn't make sense. I always saw one as NYC and the other being like Chicago in terms of distance apart.

Wasn't a great film but not totally deserving of the review its getting either.
 
Sibersk Esto said:
They have a newspaper article saying that Clark died in the battle.
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Did the newspaper article explain what happened with Superman's body? He's not buried in the superman casket, so his body is MIA to everyone who doesn't know that Clark is Superman. I can only assume that the military would want full control of a Kryptonian corpse.
 
dabig2 said:
Did the newspaper article explain what happened with Superman's body? He's not buried in the superman casket, so his body is MIA to everyone who doesn't know that Clark is Superman. I can only assume that the military would want full control of a Kryptonian corpse.
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No. Superman is in the casket is the accepted fact.

Obviously he's not.
 
All that nightmare sequence Flash stuff was so fucking terrible.

Like... Why was it there? The Flash cameo made me think that this is what they're working towards in the long term, Thanos style. Are they seriously planning on building their Justice League movies around the Injustice, evil totalitarian Superman and some godawful time travel 'change the future!' plot?
 
I like how Lois finds out about Lex and the bullet, runs to the Capitol in a hurry and... just watches Superman walk in.

Lois, this is a man that is tuned into your shouts from across the globe. Throw the dude a warning as he walks up those steps!
 
entremet said:
No. Superman is in the casket is the accepted fact.

Obviously he's not.
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Yeah, so going back to my problem with that is that this is now a coverup that would involve a lot of prominent people. These same people allowed Superman's body to be buried in a public graveyard despite common sense indicating that they should contain the Kryptonian corpse, especially coming after Doomsday's creation.

I don't buy these funerals happening as they did. I completely reject that the military wouldn't have his corpse behind the most strict of security buried deep in the earth.
 
So more Jesus/Superman stuff.

The lance evokes the Lance of Longinus which pierced Jesus's side on the cross.

Him dying and obviously not dead.

MoS was full of them too, but Snyder doesn't know subtlety.
 
entremet said:
So more Jesus/Superman stuff.

The lance evokes the Lance of Longinus which pierced Jesus's side on the cross.

Him dying and obviously not dead.
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Dead said:
hard to miss when you had the bat signal up so she could tell the pilot to drop off there

we just makin up plot holes now
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Exactly! There are a lot of things you can criticize this movie for, but this isn't one of them. Lex told her his plot, the Bat Signal was on, and Superman said where he was going.
 
thecouncil said:
Knowing this information, how did it affect the movie? Isn't that where that storyline ended? Lois found out it was Lex and what did she do with that information from there?
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Nothing, in fact the entire government didn't nothing and did not seem the least bit concerned that LexCop (whom they have just given access to Kryptonian technology) was supplying warlords and mercenaries in Africa possibly in an attempt to make Superman look bad. The General just goes, "yeah we traced it to LexCorp. Goodbye."
 
Zack Snyder on the ending plus what it means for Justice League

The ending of BvS was designed to show that Superman was willing to make himself collateral damage if it meant saving others. “I felt like we had to kill Superman in this movie in order for us to have been serious with the entire premise of the film,” Snyder says. “And that’s not to say that he clearly is gone forever.”
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“I wanted Bruce Wayne to build the Justice League,” Snyder tells EW. “I felt like with Superman around, it’s a different conversation when you create the Justice League, right? It’s like, ‘Me and Superman, we want to make a Justice League.’ [Other heroes would be] like, ‘Okay, yeah, I’ll join!’ I just feel like Bruce Wayne having to go out and find these seven samurai by himself, that’s a lot more interesting of a premise.”

It also forces Bruce Wayne to put his detective skills to work as he and Wonder Woman set out to find Aquaman, The Flash, Cyborg, the others. “I also I felt like, without Superman, there is definitely a vulnerability to the team that they’re gonna need to figure something out, you know? Superman does represent the powerful. He’s the Michael Jordan of heroes, he’s gonna score.”
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Prompto said:
Zack Snyder on the ending plus what it means for Justice League
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And a part of the reason they team up is to find a way to bring Superman back — much like the goal of Star Wars: The Force Awakens was to rediscover Luke Skywalker.
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He talks about SW7 a lot without really understanding why, huh?

Alienous said:
I think that premise is good. Starting the League out without its heavy hitter (Superman), meaning that you can focus more on the character's individual strengths.

BvS was a mess in part so they could get to Justice League, so I hope it's worth it.
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The premise is good in a vacuum. Now add Snyder to it and we'll see what we get.
 
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