foxuzamaki
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Hillary has been more left than obama dude
Super Tuesday 4. I'm really feeling (The After Bern) March 22, 26 contests
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Hillary has been more left than obama dude
No enthusiasm allowed.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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It'll trickle down after June if this thread is any indication-_-
My only concern with Bernie staying in the race was that once it became clear that the nomination was Hillary's, him staying in the race just to shit on Hillary and the DNC like he has been for the last few weeks would do more harm than good. Lately its been seeming like he's been less of a message candidate and more of a sore loser with a lot of cash behind him.
But he greatly toned down the Hillary shade in his speech today and focused on his issues. Which, great. I think the only time he even mentioned her was when he was talking up some bullshit GE polls.
Exactly. It's offensive to even imply that southern democrats shouldn't matter to the picking of a nominee just because they're in red states. They're democrats.
As has been said plenty of times: Only the nominee gets to worry about general election electoral votes. We're deciding a nominee right now, and every Democrat, every state, gets a say. #SorryBoutIt
But he greatly toned down the Hillary shade in his speech today and focused on his issues. Which, great. I think the only time he even mentioned her was when he was talking up some bullshit GE polls.
Exactly. It's offensive to even imply that southern democrats shouldn't matter to the picking of a nominee just because they're in red states. They're democrats.
As has been said plenty of times: Only the nominee gets to worry about general election electoral votes. We're deciding a nominee right now, and every Democrat, every state, gets a say. #SorryBoutIt
Unknown Soldier
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No aloha allowed outside of Hawaii.
Also, this is pretty typical of the political threads these days.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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as a canadian who's been watching these elections closely, there isn't nearly as many sanders supporters here as there are hillary. sanders supporters are on places like reddit for the most part. both sides fling shit at eachother but because of the population disparity it quickly turns into a dogpile
eyeball_kid
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Sanders spent money and energy in South Carolina. Didn't work out. It can be debated why, but bottom line is he lost badly there. Despite what the media and pundits say, the Sanders campaign has a limited amount of money and no SuperPACs to fall back on. His campaign has as of Feb. spent $81.6M and had $14.6M cash on hand. I believe his campaign manager decided they had to pragmatically focus on the states they think they have the best chance at winning. Based on his South Carolina performance, spending large amounts of money in every Southern state to get the Sanders name and message out (and overcome Clinton's heavy favored status) wasn't a viable path to winning. Better to hope he can win enough of the northern and western states to make up for southern losses.
to be fair, I've lived in vermont and i probably met half the black people there
theignoramus
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Liberals should be grateful Sanders isnt running third party and quit tone policing.
Even Bernie will tell you he wouldn't have gotten this fair without using the DNC.
Grateful? :/
I almost hope he does at this point, just to spit the Hillary supporters. Sanders and Trump both running third party campaigns would be great for this country.
Bernie would be no where if he ran third party. He even said as much in a debate about why he's running as a Democrat.
Macho Madness
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President Ryan would be happy that they both did so, yes.
It's intresting that GAF tends more Clinton, and I have a few ideas why.
1. Clinton supporters tend to be more vocal than Sanders supporters on here. I saw a lot of Sanders supporters jump in to say good job Bernie and jump out, but those who make dozens of posts and are active and post a lot in PolitiGAF tend to be Hillary supporters.
2. There's a lot more crossover here than on reddit. Whike reddit does have its own minority and LGBT communities on the same site as /politics, and/Sandersforpresident, there isn't nessesarilly a lot of crossover, whereas on GAF they're 2 clicks away.
Thus, GAF's population tends to be about at Hillary's national level or even a bit higher.
Tesseract
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The DNC is using him, corporate media too. Fair is fair, we're gonna steal Hillary's milkshake and bury neoliberalism once and for all
Feel the birdie
I take it your a republican who wants the House of Representatives to pick a republican to be president, not many of those on this forum
excelsiorlef
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It would result in absolutely nothing good
We're going to fly like an eagle~
Can't you see~
Fly like an eagle, Let Bernie carry me~
Fly like an eagle, to Cali~
Fly right to the nomination~
googleplex
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Yeah.... We sound be real grateful that Burnie is not fucking the county and the Supreme Court over for the next 20 and running third party due to his ignoramus ego and out if sheer spite.
Consider me really grateful.
What is that being fair to?
Legitimate black political activists with meaningful credentials and concerns have been ignored by Sanders during his entire time as a political representative from Vermont. His colleague Senator Leahy has worked with this group specifically. So maybe we should stop patting Sanders on the back for civil rights activism in the 60's and ask why once he had real political power he no longer had time for minorities.
Tesseract
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HUELEN10
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Beautiful.
I hope I live in the universe where this man is my president a year from now.
Sheesh
Leona Lewis
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I hear scientists have made great strides in the field of parallel universes.
Tesseract
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Unknown Soldier
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This is a problem with the two-party system, not with Bernie.
Wafflecakes
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No lies were told though.
If Bernie goes 3rd party knowing the implications then he is a trash human being.
hehe
No one pays attention unless you're one or the other. Ridiculous
BreezyLimbo
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Personally Id find it hilarious if Sanders somehow won the nominee, if only because that would mean Hillary lost the nominee to someone else twice.
Unknown Soldier
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Oh, they paid attention to Ross Perot and Ralph Nader. I doubt it was the kind of attention they wanted though.
I'd definitely be voting for Bernie then, but I'd be worried about the general. He hasn't been attacked very seriously.
Mostly cause King county went down a lot, to 64%, from 69% as it was at first.
If Clinton got under 70% it certainly wouldn't be good for her, but it'd be a lot better than it could have been. It'll come down to how low or high King ends up being though; it'll be one of the last in, and only is about half counted so far.
There have been a lot of theories. The one that seems most plausible to me is candidates like Sanders have more enthusiastic (and in this case younger) voters, who can spend a day caucusing while Hillary supporters, while driven in their own right, just don't want to so that. They'd rather do mail in ballots, or early voting, or even stand in line on election day than be caught up in the chaos of a caucus.
BreezyLimbo
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Trump is a wild card that people are underestimating.
Cruz I feel is slimy enough that he would just ooze to the bottom of the polls if he was nominated. But Trump? He spews bullshit every turn but has somehow managed to beat the majority of Republican candidates. Single handedly.
You Are Viewtiful
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Among Republicans.
hodayathink
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His issue wasn't even the fact that he lost those states. It's how much he lost them by. If he'd lost in the south something like 55-45 or even 60-40 instead of the amounts he actually lost by this race would look much different than it does right now. Completely giving up on the south after losing South Carolina is why he's down over 300 delegates instead of closer to 100 (which has still never been overcome, but it's a lot better than where he is now).
Wafflecakes
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He beat them because they underestimated him.
We cannot make the same mistake in the general.
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Some Hillary supporters continuing to do their best to turn away potential future votes from Bernie supporters. I mean why the hell do you even care? What does do statements like this accomplish? You'd think you'd just let people carry on. Maybe even wish a heartful "good luck", knowing the inevitable outcome is just a matter of time. But oh, no, DON'T YOU DARE! act like Bernie has a chance is my presence or I will bring my righteous wrath upon you!
I'm voting for Hillary in the general. I care about the future of this country and minorities in particular. But this shit has to stop.
Thank you.
Honestly can't wait for Bernie to drop out at least then we can stop dwelling in fantasy and rally behind the candidate that actually has a chance at making the White House next year. I've realized the subset of Bernie supporters that are Bernie or bust are a group I will never see eye to eye with, they're basically Republicans in that way. They do not understand compromise and it's that kind of doggedness that the Republicans had when they proceeded to let our government shutdown.
I just cannot see how Bernie accomplishes any of things he's campaigning on. I've seen Congress be gridlocked for 6 years of this administration and somehow a president with even more left leaning ideologies that preaches ideological purity with no compromise is going to make a headway here? I don't buy it and thankfully unless there are miracles in NY, NJ mad CA I won't get to find out. For me Hillary is the most experienced person for the job and will advance this country forward, maybe not a huge leap like Bernie is selling but it will be progress nonetheless.
Also if Bernie was the nominee, I would support him not with as much excitement as with Clinton but he'd have my support because I do realize what the alternative is and how bad that would be for this country.
I just cannot see how Bernie accomplishes any of things he's campaigning on. I've seen Congress be gridlocked for 6 years of this administration and somehow a president with even more left leaning ideologies that preaches ideological purity with no compromise is going to make a headway here? I don't buy it and thankfully unless there are miracles in NY, NJ mad CA I won't get to find out. For me Hillary is the most experienced person for the job and will advance this country forward, maybe not a huge leap like Bernie is selling but it will be progress nonetheless.
Also if Bernie was the nominee, I would support him not with as much excitement as with Clinton but he'd have my support because I do realize what the alternative is and how bad that would be for this country.
legacyzero
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8 months ago people said he had zero chance. Fast forward. Hmmmm. He also had no chance in Michigan. Fast forward. Hmmmm.
Counting chickens, bruh.
Jesus Christ, man.
Thats a vocal minority of idiots who are OK with cutting their nose off to spite their face.
Ill support Hillary over Trump any day. Lesser of two evils, but not THAT much less.
She's a liar, she's in special interest pockets, and she's scammy in the fact that she moves her views to cater to whomever she's talking to.
Im not gonna pretend that shit aint serious business.
Night Angel
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Are you wishing good luck to Trump Stumpers?
I mean, not every conversation has to be about how great things may go for your chosen candidate. If some think the outcome is inevitable, they have as much right to post as you do, and their posts have just as much merit.
BreezyLimbo
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And 8 months ago, he was underestimated among Republicans.
Trump will make a swerve to the Middle once he gets the nomination because he has nothing tying him down. He's not like Cruz in that he has to stick to the 'values' that he spits out, he can swerve and change his mind. In many debates where they bring this up, Trump is a master at saying that he changed his mind/is flexible.
Just like people just assume Hillary will win automatically, people assuming Trumps going to go down easily are making a mistake.
This election cycle has shown everyone that assuming something is, in reality isn't. Simple as that.
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