BronsonLee
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WB aren't going to give Miller JL when they're still salty about the money and receipts for Fury Road.
I have no idea what they expected.
WB aren't going to give Miller JL when they're still salty about the money and receipts for Fury Road.
Have a quick glance at Twitter and I think you'd be surprised by the number of positive Tweets from people who enjoyed the film.
Deadpool is gonna be more profitable than X-Men Apocalypse, Civil War, and Batman v Superman. That's hilarious.
I sure HOPE no one is trying to downplay the impact that had: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2015&wknd=19&p=.htmPeople really try to downplay the effect Mayweather v. Pacquiao had, but it clearly had an effect on the gross. People were not concerned about Avengers that night at all.
That being said, it would've missed projections anyway.
At least we have the TV stuff.
Have a quick glance at the threads on GAF and I think you'd be surprised by the number of positive posts from people who enjoyed the film.
That does not mean it has good word of mouth. Tracking is already starting to indicate otherwise.
And a fair share of negative ones as well.
What's the evidence that WOM is positive?
Flash season 1 was one of the best live action super hero things in a while. I loved that they went unashamedly crazy with all the comic book stuff, and kept digging in with C and D tier characters.Flash is by far my favorite super hero TV show right now. That part in BvS as a result of that... Lmao!
I have no idea what they expected.
Budget $150 million[3][4]WB aren't going to give Miller JL when they're still salty about the money and receipts for Fury Road. I mean, I love George and Fury Road and would love for him to head something in the DC universe but honestly I don't see WB trusting him right now.
I get the same feeling that some people want this to fail. I loved the movie, despite it's flaws. I want an expansive DC cinematic universe like Marvel has done and this movie was the way Warner decided to kick it off.
I don't understand posts like this. Do you have some loyalty to Marvel studio's or something? Some type of bet you are losing with someone? Did you feel this way even before the movie came out? Why do you want to see the movie fail?
WB didn't have a clue. Prior to Fury Road releasing they literally told licensors for merchandising not to bother because the film was terrible. Then there's the film's budget...
Budget $150 million[3][4]
Box office $377.6 million[5]
+ advertising, I still imagine they made money.
You got some receipts for these statements, friend?
Box office tracking - we're in the box office thread.Tracking, what tracking? I don't know what tracking you're talking about?
Well, you are talking about the same company that gave the Wachowskis $200M for a Tatum space elf/dog movie. Maybe they're just run by crazy people. Or Vince McMahon.At this point I legit want to know what dirt Miller has on WB to allow him to blow 250 mil on a freaking Rated R Mad Max reboot
Like how did that shit happen. Did he just keep sending bills?
Well, you are talking about the same company that gave the Wachowskis $200M for a Tatum space elf/dog movie. Maybe they're just run by crazy people. Or Vince McMahon.
WB spent $150M on a Peter Pan movie, and decided to double down with a $180M Tarzan movie a year later.
Well them and their financial partners.
Agree except for Sniper. That movie was basic as fuck and safe as hell.I mean, I -love- WB. They'll fucking try anything. Edge of Tomorrow. American Sniper. Mad Max. Man from UNCLE. All the Nolan movies.
They do insane shit. They don't even care. But sometimes that means shit like Jupiter Ascending and Pan.
Yeah, I'm thinking that ship has sailed as well. Had the same Sunday as FF7 despite the larger opening, and that hit $350m; the bigger Friday isn't enough to close the gap. We'll see how the week goes but it's going end well below $400m.Also, we can probably stop talking about $400M domestic for BvS, because I don't see how that is happening. BvS' Saturday + Sunday were more than $20M behind the same days for Iron Man 3, and IM3 didn't exactly blast past $400M.
Yeah, I'm thinking that ship has sailed as well. Had the same Sunday as FF7 despite the larger opening, and that hit $350m; the bigger Friday isn't enough to close the gap. We'll see how the week goes but it's going end well below $400m.
Twitter raved about Snakes on a Plane, for the record.
Wait really? Sooo the WW looks awesome, but sub 400 seems pretty bad no?
The worldwide number looks as good as it did because it opened everywhere at once, which is rare.Wait really? Sooo the WW looks awesome, but sub 400 seems pretty bad no?
Agree except for Sniper. That movie was basic as fuck and safe as hell.
Twitter raved about Snakes on a Plane, for the record.
What? Twitter barely existed when that came out.
I don't even think Twitter existed when that came out
It had for 5 months.I don't even think Twitter existed when that came out
It's the same situation Man of Steel was in: good, but not the mega-hit WB wanted.Wait really? Sooo the WW looks awesome, but sub 400 seems pretty bad no?
Snakes on the plane had an interesting box office opening. At the time, Thursday previews were separate from the weekend, so box office mojo had Snakes behind Talladega nights of all films by a few hundred thousand with estimates. But when weekend actuals came, the Thursday box office was a little lower and Snakes won the weekend by about 50kMy mistake, but online buzz and WoM was very strong. Didn't help.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/21/movies/21box.html?_r=0
The WW thing is more due to the simultaneous release.
It's the same situation Man of Steel was in: good, but not the mega-hit WB wanted.
It's difficult to say for sure without knowing exactly what WB's internal expectations were, but I'm not sure it'll even reach "good" at this point.
I'd guess something like:
<1.1B: good (satisfactory?)
<1B: underperforming
<900M: very disappointing
<800M: WB execs panic/commit mass suicide
The last of those looks pretty unlikely, at least!
Ok so with the actuals and percentage drops my prediction is $370 domestic and about $900 Global.
I'd have to assume that WB would consider +1.1B the target they want to attain, primarily because that's the most they could had made out of Batman in solo capacity.
This is being propped up more in every regard in terms of marketing and the whole "event" of combining these two legacy characters. If they can't do more than "just as good" as a four year old movie with less things riding on it, I'm starting to think WB will be examining their cards more carefully. I imagine it wouldn't be bad for them if they got right underneath 1B, but since their media franchise is riding on WoM (which so far is not that good) circumstances are a little more tricky to work with.
Why does a person unhappy with the movie have to hate DC? I've seen Superman Returns and Nolan's Batman Trilogy and have enjoyed both. Not to mention my love for the 90's Superman and Batman cartoons and Justice League and Young Justice. On top of my love for Batman Beyond. Sometimes a person just doesn't like a movie quite simply because they just thought it was a bad movie.Lol. What a post.
People I know seem to think it was an average to good movie. Everyone agrees it has its flaws. I am happy to see it succeed. I don't want WB to be rewarded for its mistakes, but I want to see a strong DC cinematic universe. Those thirsty for it to crash must really hate DC.
It's difficult to say for sure without knowing exactly what WB's internal expectations were, but I'm not sure it'll even reach "good" at this point.
I'd guess something like:
<1.1B: good (satisfactory?)
<1B: underperforming
<900M: very disappointing
<800M: WB execs panic/commit mass suicide
The last of those looks pretty unlikely, at least!
Why does a person unhappy with the movie have to hate DC? I've seen Superman Returns and Nolan's Batman Trilogy and have enjoyed both. Not to mention my love for the 90's Superman and Batman cartoons and Justice League and Young Justice. On top of my love for Batman Beyond. Sometimes a person just doesn't like a movie quite simply because they just thought it was a bad movie.
Why does a person unhappy with the movie have to hate DC? I've seen Superman Returns and Nolan's Batman Trilogy and have enjoyed both. Not to mention my love for the 90's Superman and Batman cartoons and Justice League and Young Justice. On top of my love for Batman Beyond. Sometimes a person just doesn't like a movie quite simply because they just thought it was a bad movie.
lol silly marvel fanboy you cant like both. anything you dont like in this movie means your a hater and haters gonna hate i love this movie suck it haters.I don't get it either-it's a persecution complex. Everyone would be thrilled to have a GREAT connected DC cinematic universe. But so far, it's not off to a great start and that's disappointing and sad. Why can't we have this opinion?
What's even worse is that World's Finest did the job better how many years ago? Just remake that shit in live action.It's strange. I'd probably hate the movie less if I wasn't such a huge DC fanboy.
But just having two of my favorite heroes on screen doesn't do much for me in the post Marvel dominated world.
Snyder has the narrative subtlety of using a nuke to kill an ant. I'm fine with him with 300 and Watchmen and I'm actually not even on the Man of Steel hate train, but ooh boy BvS just left me in some sort of drained state after I got out of it.movie was not great, but far from the utter shit hyperbole that online would have you believe. basically a ham-handed-beat-you-over-the-head tale of power and responsibility, followed by like 30 minutes of good-to-great action movie. The final 30 or so minutes actually have me a bit excited for the future of the DCCU.. the first 2 hours though may be hard to sit through again... (I actually typed 20 hours there and thought of intentionally leaving it as an obvious freudian slip)
Because if there's one thing that will improve the box office, it's an even longer version of a movie that hasn't had the amazing reception that was expected.400 domestic. 1.2 billion worldwide.
Why? They're gonna bang out the R-Rated cut.
Precisely. We want great DC movies, but many of us are disappointed greatly with what we have been getting.I don't get it either-it's a persecution complex. Everyone would be thrilled to have a GREAT connected DC cinematic universe. But so far, it's not off to a great start and that's disappointing and sad. Why can't we have this opinion?
movie was not great, but far from the utter shit hyperbole that online would have you believe. basically a ham-handed-beat-you-over-the-head tale of power and responsibility, followed by like 30 minutes of good-to-great action movie. The final 30 or so minutes actually have me a bit excited for the future of the DCCU.. the first 2 hours though may be hard to sit through again... (I actually typed 20 hours there and thought of intentionally leaving it as an obvious freudian slip)
It's not the epic shit heap that Green Lantern was. I saw only the last 40 minutes and that was enough for me to know that GL is shit.I have my problems with it but not nearly as harsh as some of the reviews that seem to think it is utter garbage. Bottom of the barrel superhero film.
My mistake, but online buzz and WoM was very strong. Didn't help.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/21/movies/21box.html?_r=0