Minions don't have to be generic, though. Look at Star Wars, or Lord of the Rings. People will dress up as a stormtrooper or Uruk-Hai even though they're mainly just mooks meant to be killed by the heroes. But no one's going to dress up as a Marvel mook because people wouldn't even recognize you.
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Minions don't have to be generic, though. Look at Star Wars, or Lord of the Rings. People will dress up as a stormtrooper or Uruk-Hai even though they're mainly just mooks meant to be killed by the heroes. But no one's going to dress up as a Marvel mook because people wouldn't even recognize you.
Funnily enough, I thought the elves in Thor 2 looked pretty cool and unique. Someone would recognize you for sure, but he would just wonder why you did in the first place...
So sure, they don't have to be, but they are. That's a fault I think a lot of people, even the most ardent fans, recognize. Hardly a thing unique to the Marvel movies, but OK.
JadedWriter
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He's probably drifting off to memories of visiting his divorce attorney.
Bobby Roberts
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Anecdotal, but it looks like a couple theaters round this way are already reducing their screenings of BvS for next weekend. Dunno if the larger chains are looking to do this already in other cities, but at least here in Portland, some houses have already decided to scale back by a couple shows per day.
BronsonLee
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Yeah but in BvS's defense, Portland is lame
My country's currency isnt doing too hot either. Its commiseration!
Dash_Riprock
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It has begun...
JadedWriter
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Typically, after opening weekend, theaters reduce the number of screenings. But anyways, I've actually seen the opposite happening here. Some theaters adding more screenings, though that could be due to them underestimating the demand initially due to the critical reception and not assigning enough screenings in the first place.
Bobby Roberts
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I'm not unfamiliar with the booking practices of theaters. Some shows do have their schedules switched up & altered, for a variety of reasons.Strong performers don't tend to get showtimes cut, especially without a new release competing for those screens.
I haven't seen what the chains are doing with it just yet, and even then, like I said, it's no guarantee it's going to be a reflection of other regions. Just saying there's a couple houses out this way who have decided against running it as much as they did last weekend.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Charlie Cox gets me every damn time.
JadedWriter
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Oh my god lol. He's stealing your roles Ben. Would be sad, yet hilarious if Cox ended up with Garner.
If they legitimately don't make a billion off of this movie they might as well cancel the entire DCCU
Deadline needs to proof-read their own graphs.
I don't know that product placement is taken into consideration for the profit part, and of course a big film like this generates money from merchandising and licensing, but it seems reasonable.
Primethius
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So Deadline is saying that current projections are for a 65% drop. Seems pretty crazy if it ends up being the case.
Dash_Riprock
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If this thing is really only on track to make $800 million, yeah, someone at WB is cleaning out their office right now.
Obliterator
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Not too crazy. A drop in the 60s makes sense with those huge Thursday previews / not great word of mouth. If it hits as high as 70% then yeah thats a crazy ass drop
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Well, superhero pics is one of the most front-loaded genres out there. Consider even a well-received one like Captain America 2 dropped over 55%; BvS had a far higher share of its OW come from Thursday previews and had an inflated Friday. Just based off of those two factors you would expect at least a 60% drop. Given essentially every metric we have points to WOM quite a bit worse than CA2's, a 65+% drop becomes likely.
crazyrabbits
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Dash_Riprock
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I'd say thats a VERY conservative estimate.
Father_Brain
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$925M is still on the low end of what I'd expect at this point ($900M-1.1B), but it's certainly plausible.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall at WB right now...
I don't think the reviews cost them much, given the size of the opening. The reason for the reviews and WoM (the film itself) will be what costs it. Unless that's what you mean, in which case, never mind.
PowderedToast
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i mean sony cancelled their entire TASM universe plans because TASM2 made 700m. 800m would be a huge disappointment, especially when you can predict the JL movie to get way less intial goodwill from the public
damn
edit: misread the image as it's very small on my comp. thought the worldwide BO gross was 800m
damn
edit: misread the image as it's very small on my comp. thought the worldwide BO gross was 800m
Dash_Riprock
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If the film doesn't crack $1 billion their stock is taking a hit regardless, investors (usually) aren't stupid.
And whats this I keep hearing about a WB buyout? I did a quick google search and the last rumors were from 2014. Are they still hurting that much?
That's what I meant. The quality of the movie (or rather the type of movie) will cause shorter legs due to less than stellar WoM which means less money for them in the long run.
This isn't really accurate. Sony didn't cancel the TASM universe plans because TASM2 made 700m. They cancellde the TASM universe plans because they managed to cut a deal with Marvel which they perceived would give more value to their Spider-man brand. That's a key difference. If the Marvel deal fell through, the TASM universe would have continued.
I am thankful I don't live in that universe.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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At the time, TASM3 was planned for a June 2016 release, so it'd would have been the fifth superhero film of the year and the third in six weeks.
Sony's planned Spider-Man universe may have survived TASM2, but I don't think it would have survived a third installment failing to break $150M domestically.
PowderedToast
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true. it wouldn't have been outright cancelled without that route being there for them
and warner don't have an equivalent alternative either
thanks for the information, i'm not as well versed as most here
this is gonna be fascinating to watch unfold
Bobby Roberts
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Keep in mind that Warners shitcanned an entire Justice League movie days before it was set to start filming once already, and declined to make Singer's Superman Returns follow up. Granted, this isn't the same management, so that kind of decisionmaking might not be on the table in response to a Batman v Superman that makes, as I said near the beginning of the thread, only 350+ domestic and 800+ worldwide.
But I could see a very sharp trimming back of what they had planned, giving them a little more maneuverability to go in a different direction should the opportunity present itself.
So "rentals" is the actual revenue a studio gets from the box office?
Hmm...Disney is overdue for some major buyout.
If that happens again... I don't know what to say. Lol. I doubt so though, very different circumstances now as you said.
Yes.
~55% domestic, ~40% overseas (varies per territory, but that is a ballpark average), and 25% in China.
For older movies from the 70s and prior, rentals was the only number reported. All of the box office numbers we have from that period are just estimates based on the reported rentals.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Cyborg is definitely still getting a movie.
Thanks, that makes shit a lot clearer. I was never sure what they meant by rentals when I read box office data about older films.
BronsonLee
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Still can't believe they shelved a Justice League movie days away from starting production
The power of the Nolan.
Too bad it's because of the Nolan that we are where we're at now.
illmatic22
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Not making a billion wouldn't look good considering the last two Nolan films pulled it off.
I read some of Justice League Mortal's script and it wasn't half bad. Wish we could've seen it.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Sidelined in his own movie lol.
"There are too many, Vic. I'll go ahead and clear them out."
Rinse and repeat.
They green lit Green Lantern though, so that was umm...something.
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