PS4K information (~2x GPU power w/ clock+, new CPU, price, tent. Q1 2017)
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sems4arsenal
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Still think no way GTSport is releasing this October.
4K upscaled-1080p games is not impressive at all...
You want to see something impressive? Look at 4K native games on a 4K screen.
Now this is a much needed change in the console industry.
A g-g-ghost!
No it's just that any speculating on hardware in any thread on GAF almost always shoot for the moon, some of these things are just not reasonable.
Remember the goddamn speculations before ps4 and xbox1?
Or any new generation of graphics cards for that matter.
Also you mgiht not have seen this but I said in my other post that they are not aiming to get AAA games to 4K they are aiming at upscaling them to 4K soo... that part of your speculation is kinda off.
There's no way in hell, even with twice the power it can handle 4k games unless we are talking indy level graphics, not triple a. This is about just adding more effects, polygons, etc, and improving VR frame rates.
Art Vandilay
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I'm not a developer, but that would depend on the game. You're not going to get a firm answer.
Or its going to be like every multi plat game and be basically like pc high vs ps4 or ps4 vs xbox1.
outunderthestars
Banned
The generational model is outdated and needs to be replaced at some point with this exact idea. Might as well do it now!
Opus Angelorum
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The Last Guardian delayed again 
Like fuck it is. If this is true it's a terrible idea.Now this is a much needed change in the console industry.
CriterionDog
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who is wollan?
Joelstinton14
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A big house too. Or a small house with a big living room. Or a house with just a living room.
Demanufacture
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Can you explain for us noobs?
I'm simply stating what I personally think of when I see "significant". It could be anything though obviously.
I just wasn't expecting games significantly tailored for the newer model to happen so soon (again, if true).
Marvel
could never
No fucking clue.
Now this is a much needed change in the console industry.
Now there's a name I haven't seen in a while
PhilipDoesMatter
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A lot of rich people on Gaf, just look at some of the home setups people post
Indeed. But being rich is different from being an idiot. I would really sell my PS4 to never ever trust Sony again.
PhoenixDawn
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This is a great summary of my sentiments too. We've hardly gotten any good efforts at this point in the lifecycle and they're jumping the specs ahead? With dev cycles taking ~3+ years, that means you are going to get at best one good game from each of the major studios, probably less if they skip a "gen" to aim for the greatest performance.
Steve Youngblood
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Wollan's back? Time to update this image:
qa_engineer
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bruh. straight tiger uppercut to the NX's performance king claim if true.
Interfectum
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I'm guessing actual production won't change much since most developers already take into account PC gaming settings. Tweaking, fine tuning and testing will take more time as they now have two PS4 platforms to target instead of one. So more man hours for sure.
gotstrangepowers
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I'm glad I didn't buy any of the limited edition PS4s. Sony's probably confident the PS4K will sell with how those did. I'll buy one day 1, especially since GameStop is giving me good bonuses to trade stuff towards my PSVR.
TheHolyTurnip
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I haven't even had my PS4 for a year, and when i bought it i was on the fence about saving up for a PC instead but decided to go for the console...
I'm very upset about this whole rotten turn of events. I guess now it's time to wait and see which of the other console makers i can ignore and start saving for that pc.
I'm very upset about this whole rotten turn of events. I guess now it's time to wait and see which of the other console makers i can ignore and start saving for that pc.
You know, the great thing about this is that you can still keep playing your OG PS4 until you find it to be suitable time to upgrade to a PS4K. Don't think 3 years is enough time? Then wait another year or two while still playing the same games. I highly doubt you'll see that much of an improvement within the first year of this new system's release.
Going to laugh if two years from now you have people complaining how under-utilized the PS4K is lol
Going to laugh if two years from now you have people complaining how under-utilized the PS4K is lol
Now this is a much needed change in the console industry.
Mannnnnnnnnn, welcome back.
SatelliteOfLove
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No foolin? This E3 is going to be eeeeeeenteresting. Veeery eeeeeeeeeeeeenteresting.
^^^^ Doesn't remember back beyond Gen 7 or wasn't old/alive enough to experience it. For him, this New Normal is normal.
About OLD games:
so let's say the PS4K comes with double the GPU power and 4xCPU. General performance I get. Something like 30fps Game X goes low to 22fps but with the PS4K never below 30.
However: Could it resolve the frametime issues as well or is that a thing that the devs need to correct via the rendering pipeline of their engine?
so let's say the PS4K comes with double the GPU power and 4xCPU. General performance I get. Something like 30fps Game X goes low to 22fps but with the PS4K never below 30.
However: Could it resolve the frametime issues as well or is that a thing that the devs need to correct via the rendering pipeline of their engine?
vincenth69
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I think they prefer not to talk about rumors or when their jobs could be lost if they said too much (pretty much all the time).
How? Even top PC graphic cards do not play 4K games easily.
Seventy_X_Seven
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This is stupid. I own a gaming PC, I'm used to doing upgrades fairly frequently. But I also own a PS4, and the whole appeal of consoles is that you know your product will work great out of the box. And that's because the games are designed for the console, not designed for a superior console with a gimped mode option.
I still don't understand the meltdowns, this is a positive change.
Almost every AAA release in the recent past has been met with concerns about performance in current consoles.
We can't complain about console performance (sub 1080p, sub 30 fps, fps drops) and at the same time denounce new hardware which would allow games to run closer to PC spec.
I understand that money is an issue for some, but nothing will change for you.. you will still be able to run the same games, albeit at a lower spec (which we would be getting anyway with the status quo).
Almost every AAA release in the recent past has been met with concerns about performance in current consoles.
We can't complain about console performance (sub 1080p, sub 30 fps, fps drops) and at the same time denounce new hardware which would allow games to run closer to PC spec.
I understand that money is an issue for some, but nothing will change for you.. you will still be able to run the same games, albeit at a lower spec (which we would be getting anyway with the status quo).
Neuro
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Something on the scale of Destiny?
TheChillyAcademic
Member
Holy fucking shit Wollan is back? It's...it's not possible!!
Also this had better stick to that $399 price point I swear to god.
Also this had better stick to that $399 price point I swear to god.
Now this is a much needed change in the console industry.
What's going on here? if Doom bringer pops up I'll know this is all a April Fool's joke by Neogaf leaders.
CosmicQueso
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So in order to not "disrespect" someone who bought a console 3 years ago, those people who are adopting 4k TVs shouldn't have gaming or entertainment content available to them through a Sony console device for the next 3-4 years?
You do realize how that is a little unreasonable, don't you?
outunderthestars
Banned
So instead of playing the same version of games that you would now, you'll sell your PS4 for $200 or so and stop playing those games just because someone else is playing a prettier version of those games?
That makes no sense to me whatsoever.
BRocknRolla
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So at 3 years between iterations, and 4 iterations you'll need to buy to equal one "huge upgrade" worth of power, your assumption was that the PS5 should come out in roughly 2025? And Sony would be should sit on their hands until then and hope that developers cater to their platform until then?
I don't see what's rational about that.
EatinOlives
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But it hasn't been until recently that PC gaming has been as accessible as it is now. I'm certainly not including the days of the early-to-mid-90s when the experience was completely different (and you'd often get completely different kinds of games anyway). I'm talking about modern PC gaming, where you get to play a bunch of multiplatform games on a general-purpose rig with components you can very easily just slot in upgrades for and compatibility issues that are few and far in between.
LoveCake
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I don't see how Sony can offer any sort of trade-in because lets say it is $200 which is the figure people are asking for, if the PS4k can do 4k gaming & is selling for $400 how can Sony offer a trade-in of half the price, because if half the twenty million take Sony up on the trade-in offer it will cost Sony two hundred million dollars that is without the trade-in infrastructure.
Sony would be in effect taking a $200 hit on each trade-in, just sell the PS4k for $250, could a 4k console be made for $250?
Sony would be in effect taking a $200 hit on each trade-in, just sell the PS4k for $250, could a 4k console be made for $250?