Bungie now selling armor sets for Destiny via microtransactions

Technically this is a Vanity item as you get no in-game advantage over buying it. You have to infuse the purchased armor with something that drops in the game.

Edit: I see PVE perks come along with the armor. I guess that's not really a big deal to me. If you could buy 330 or 335 armor, I could see an issue.
 
Xander Crews said:
Technically this is a Vanity item as you get no in-game advantage over buying it. You have to infuse the purchased armor with something that drops in the game.
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Not really. see the edit in the OP. As I7ve said multiple times, there are PVE perks on the armor.

Klyka said:
A RexNovis thread :O


- RexNovis 2016

Good to see you back!
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So are you actually going to contribute to the discussion going on in the thread or just shit it up by referencing completely irrelevant (and pathetic imo) jokes about me? Real classy.
 
Destiny haters.... "Quick, to the micro transaction!" "Bungie self destruction, back to the Division". Jesus...... I'll never understand people who have an agenda on this game.
 
the game is headed into its twilight years so its inevitable and unavoidable. though i wish they held off closer to Destiny 2 or at least after the next expansion
 
RexNovis said:
Not really. see the edit in the OP. As I7ve said multiple times, there are PVE perks on the armor.



So are you actually going to contribute to the discussion going on in the thread or just shit it up by referencing completely irrelevant (and pathetic imo) jokes about me? Real classy.
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I was just making a joke and welcoming you back :(

It was all in good fun :(

Why are you so mean?
 
The only way games like Destiny and The Division and its copycats make any sense to me are as game systems purpose designed to maximize the ability to sell virtual items for real money. Gambling real world money for a chance at certain rare items, or an economy based upon expendable consumables are the holy grail.

I have no doubts about where these games will go, but its interesting to watch each baby step and how they're presented.
 
urge26 said:
Destiny haters.... "Quick, to the micro transaction!" "Bungie self destruction, back to the Division". Jesus...... I'll never understand people who have an agenda on this game.
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I'm confused. People need to make up their minds. Do I have an agenda abut the Division or an agenda about Destiny? Or perhaps *gasp* I could just have issues with things that seem suspect to me?!?! Noclearly that just cant be.
 
Silvard said:
So...cosmetics.

You're sacrificing gear that you had to play to get, in order to get gear of exactly equal power but with a different look.

Does this actually upset anyone?
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ElBoxyBrown said:
But your just buying TTK armor that honestly won't be any better than the TTK armor you earn. Your basically just buying it for the visual spectacle.
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Right but my point is it IS upgradeable compared to other actual cosmetic items we have seen in this game.

And I don't care one way or another. Yes, others do seem to care.
 
Homeboyd said:
Right but my point is it IS upgradeable compared to other actual cosmetic items we have seen in this game.

And I don't care one way or another. Yes, others do seem to care.
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But that doesn't make it any better than any other gear and you still have to actully play and get good gear to make it useful at all.
 
jediyoshi said:
Did they confirm actual unique perks, or are they pull from the generic pool everyone already has access to from other items?
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Not sure all we know for sure is that the armor has PVE Perks attached. If they wanted it to be purely cosmetic they could have easily made it so it would inherit the perks of whatever armor it is infused with but that is clearly not the case.
 
RexNovis said:
Not sure all we know for sure is that the armor has PVE Perks attached. If they wanted it to be purely cosmetic they could have easily made it so it would inherit the perks of whatever armor it is infused with but that is clearly not the case.
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So is the issue contingent on whether these perks are unique or not?
 
Kalentan said:
But that doesn't make it any better than any other gear and you still have to actully play and get good gear to make it useful at all.
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Of course it doesn't. But I didn't claim that either. It is real gear, that can be used for end-game activities, with real perks. It's not strictly just a thing you put on to walk around the tower in to show off then put on real gear to play activities. Again, I'm good with it since you have to get better gear to get it to useful levels, but it isn't strictly cosmetic gear.
 
Microtransactions in Destiny, however minor, are always compounded by a vocal hatred for the game. Destiny is not the first game to do this and will certainly not be the last. This has such little impact on 'game fairness' between those who choose to buy these packages for a 3 light item and those who play the game normally.
Slippery slope and pay to win are suck but this is pretty far from that IMO.
 
ViciousDS said:
Hey look its Klyka, The divisions number one in the defense force :)


Don't think its not going to happen dude
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Klyka said:
I was just making a joke and welcoming you back :(

It was all in good fun :(

Why are you so mean?
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I, like most people, don't enjoy being the brunt of irrelevant jokes and after the shit that was and continues to be slung my way form the Division community I read such posts as hostile not playful. If your intent was otherwise my apologies. But you cant blame the abused dog from biting the hand that tries to feed the same food as the abuser.
 
So for those who don't play Destiny, or just don't understand the semantics, here's how this works:

You get loot, and it comes at a light level (let's say 300). If you have a lower light level item (290), you can "infuse" a higher light level item into that lower light level item (so the 290 becomes 300, and the 300 is destroyed).

This system exists so you can bring an item that either looks cool or has perks you like up to max level.

The items you'd be buying come at the lowest light level possible, so you have to use items you actually earned to make them wearable. The perks on them are also standard, run of the mill perks that all normal items have. There's no advantage.

They are still cosmetics, it's just worked into Destinys weird systems.
 
jediyoshi said:
So is the issue contingent on whether these perks are unique or not?
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No the issue is that the gear has inherent perks at all. These are perks that could be beneficial in PVE as opposed to the perks we saw on SLR gear that were almost entirely limited to racing hence in my opinion this gear is not purely cosmetic.
 
Anyone who was paying attention could see this coming a mile away once the Micro-Transaction door was opened. Activision and Bungie are just trying to milk those Destiny players through Micro-Transactions as much as they can. If you're alright with it, more power to ya.
 
You get 4 packages a week for free. Just play the game and you don't have to pay anything. But it doesn't matter everyone still likes to shit on destiny so whatever
 
RexNovis said:
People seem to be missing the part about the gear having PVE perks. This is what makes it feel less cosmetic. It can still be argued as cosmetic but its definitely skirting the line at the very least.
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Yeah, I did miss that point, thanks for pulling me up on that. I agree that that's starting to push it.
 
RexNovis said:
NO the issue is that the gear has inherent perks at all. These are perks that could be beneficial in PVE as opposed to the perks we saw on SLR gear that were almost entirely limited to racing hence in my opinion this gear is not purely cosmetic.
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But if the gear had no perks there'd be no reason to use it. Using randomized basic perks seems fine to me, since they're on nearly every other piece of non-raid legendary gear. You aren't buying anything other than a visual.
 
RexNovis said:
No the issue is that the gear has inherent perks at all. These are perks that could be beneficial in PVE as opposed to the perks we saw on SLR gear that were almost entirely limited to racing hence in my opinion this gear is not purely cosmetic.
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For reference, are you familiar with Destiny? The idea that any of the generic perks would be valuable enough to be warranted in a build is a non-issue, especially if the premise is that people are going to buy for rolls at them.
 
pantsmith said:
But if the gear had no perks there'd be no reason to use it. Using randomized basic perks seems fine to me, since they're on nearly every other piece of non-raid legendary gear.
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They could have instead made the gear inherit the perks of whatever gear it was infused with. Then it would be a true cosmetic only purchase. As it is now it isnt.
 
I see they gave up on making a big ass game with lots of content for people to enjoy. The end game with this update is a shinier version of what people were doing this time last year with an extra raid being the only difference.
 
EloquentM said:
Was that the same thing as this but free?
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Pretty much. The option to buy the treasure box or Sterling Treasure as it is called in the game is there for folks who are impatient and want the full Desolate or Spektar set on their characters.

The box drops a guarantee armor piece (Desolate line or Spektar line) and one random item (Chroma, Spektar or Desolate class item, Crucible/Vanguard/Factions Rep boosters, one of two new ships)
 
jediyoshi said:
For reference, are you familiar with Destiny? The idea that any of the generic perks would be valuable enough to be warranted in a build is a non-issue, especially if the premise is that people are going to buy for rolls at them.
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Yes I'm familiar with destiny. You can check my extensive post history in previous Destiny OTs if you dont believe me. Or better yet ask members of Destiny GAF about me and they'll tell you. The issue here is that you can pay money for gear that could offer more beneficial PVE perks than the ones you currently have. That is a problem and its certainly not "cosmetic only." The meat of the issue is that it is a clear deviation from their stated assurances about cosmetic only purchases to date. It easily skirts that line and could be argued either way. Basically its Bungie line stepping their previous drawn boundaries for microtransactions and trying to redraw those boundaries.
 
Namikaze1 said:
Pretty much. The option to buy the treasure box or Sterling Treasure as it is called in the game is there for folks who are impatient and want the full Desolate or Spektar set on their characters.

The box drops a guarantee armor piece (Desolate line or Spektar line) and one random item (Chroma, Spektar or Desolate class item, Crucible/Vanguard/Factions Rep boosters, one of two new ships)
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i already knew. I was baiting you to answer. No one who's mad is actually going to read this and even if they did they'd still be mad anyways. Lol thanks though nami XD
 
RexNovis said:
The issue here is that you can pay money for gear that could offer more beneficial PVE perks than the ones you currently have. That is a problem and its certainly not "cosmetic only." The meat of the issue is that it is a clear deviation from their stated assurances about cosmetic only purchases to date. It easily skirts that line and could be argued either way. Basically its Bungie line stepping their previous drawn boundaries for microtransactions and trying to redraw those boundaries.
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Those PVE perks being ones that also already exist on current armor starting at level 1? How do the rolls for perks for the items work, are they set or random?
 
RexNovis said:
Yes I'm familiar with destiny. You can check my extensive post history in previous Destiny OTs if you dont believe me. Or better yet ask members of Destiny GAF about me and they'll tell you. The issue here is that you can pay money for gear that could offer more beneficial PVE perks than the ones you currently have. That is a problem and its certainly not "cosmetic only." The meat of the issue is that it is a clear deviation from their stated assurances about cosmetic only purchases to date. It easily skirts that line and could be argued either way. Basically its Bungie line stepping their previous drawn boundaries for microtransactions and trying to redraw those boundaries.
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Those are generic perks. Not from raid gear or PoE stuff. I see the anthill, but is this a mountain?
 
RexNovis said:
Yes I'm familiar with destiny. You can check my extensive post history in previous Destiny OTs if you dont believe me. Or better yet ask members of Destiny GAF about me and they'll tell you. The issue here is that you can pay money for gear that could offer more beneficial PVE perks than the ones you currently have. That is a problem and its certainly not "cosmetic only." The meat of the issue is that it is a clear deviation from their stated assurances about cosmetic only purchases to date. It easily skirts that line and could be argued either way. Basically its Bungie line stepping their previous drawn boundaries for microtransactions and trying to redraw those boundaries.
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Sorry but this is so wrong. These are generic perks you can get on armor already in the game. It does not offer any beneficial PvE perk at all.

EloquentM said:
i already knew. I was baiting you to answer. No one who's mad is actually going to read this and even if they did they'd still be mad anyways. Lol thanks though nami XD
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I fell for the bait. D:
 
jediyoshi said:
Those PVE perks being ones that also already exist on current armor starting at level 1? How do the rolls for perks for the items work, are they set or random?
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At this point we dont know. All we know that the armor that is purchasable via microtransactions has perks attached which makes the "cosmetic" modifier less applicable than I and others would like to see. I feel like I explained my point fairly well in the previous post so if you still dont understand my issues with this I dont really know how else to explain it to you.
 
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