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[GhaleonEB]

Rth on BOT says $8.5M for Wednesday. About a 30% drop. Based off of that number, definitely don't see it doing better than $55M for the weekend.

Damn. Seen the discussion so far, so not much to add, but that tracks to a pretty nasty collapse for the weekend. Like, it had a 19% drop and discount Tuesday was propping it up far more than I thought. I was thinking maybe dropping to $10m.

Here's the box office theory thread where RTH's post is being discussed. He's posting comics and using the issue # to mean the box office estimate; Issue 85 = $8.5m. Reminds me of how creamsugar dribbles out NPD data here.

 

[Discotheque]

lol TDKR is a better film than The First Avenger, and it's not even close.

i agree. to hell with cap 1. such a crap movie after he gets the super soldier serum.

i was really vibing with the introduction though, aside from steve rogers looking like smeagol (goofiness aside it does work to sell how crazy the transformation is). i don't like rocketeer either. never cared for joe johnston. for my money he made the worst jurassic park movie as well.

edit: crap is strong, it's certainly not crap. it's a whatever movie.

 

[jmood88]

Dark Knight Rises shits on Cap 1. and I really like Cap 1. damn neogaf, back at it again with the baffling DKR hate.

DKR vs Winter Soldier is a much closer battle.

No the hell it's not.

 

[Dalek]

lol TDKR is a better film than The First Avenger, and it's not even close.

 

[GSG Flash]

Dark Knight Rises shits on Cap 1. and I really like Cap 1. damn neogaf, back at it again with the baffling DKR hate.

DKR vs Winter Soldier is a much closer battle.

Yeah, I really don't understand the TDKR hate. Cap 1 was a mediocre movie, not even in the same league as DKR. Winter Soldier redeems it but I find it's a bit overrated around these parts(along with the Avengers).

Also, I too think TDKR was better than the Avengers.

 

[DeathyBoy]

Well, it's true. I don't even see how it's close.

 

[Discotheque]

i liked avengers more than tdkr when it came out. but i had low expectations for the former and the latter not only disappointed me coming off of tdk but man i was hyped through the roof for that. it stung.

on rewatching both films tdkr is a better movie, much more interesting to me as well. but it still goes through some very stupid decisions, the worst of which was undermining the fantastic ending of the film preceding it.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Well, it's true. I don't even see how it's close.

It really is subjective. I don't think back on TDKR very fondly - lots of big ticket plotting problems. Badly shot and choreographed action. Some awful acting takes in there. The plot in the third act goes off the rails and never recovers. (Let's send all the police in the city into the same tunnel, sure why not.) Just from a nuts and bolts film making standpoint, I think Captain America holds up better. But most importantly, it's just a lot of fun. Sometimes campy, often goofy, but always fun. I found TDKR to be a bit of a slog at the end, TBH.

But again, to each their own. It's not cut and dried. Hopefully we can all come together to marvel at the rather impressive ongoing box office collapse that is BvS.

 

[CaviarMeths]

Watch the director's cut! The final act is still bad but markedly less terrible. The assault up the mountain in particular is much better in the director's cut. Plus you get to see ninjas go through a wood chipper.

I've seen both and I dunno, I think I might prefer the theatrical cut overall. The ninja battle at the end helps fill a narrative gap, but also kind of stops the movie dead in its tracks. It's cool to see, but you lose the sense of urgency. Also disliked the extended love hotel sequence and thought the movie worked better when Logan simply collapsed from exhaustion/injuries instead of falling off a roof and being beaten up by random thugs. Did a better job at emphasizing that Logan isn't healing like he should be.

It's not as bad as DoFP's Rogue Cut though. What a neat collection of pointless, pace-ruining scenes they added there.

 

[Dai101]

 

[Discotheque]

worst thing about the movie is that it makes people assume marion cotillard is a bad actress, because of her iffy performance in tdkr. she's one of the best alive tbh.

 

[Diprosalic]

lol TDKR is a better film than The First Avenger, and it's not even close.

I'm not even sure TDKR is better than BvS.

 

[GhaleonEB]

I wonder how fast the narrative will pivot from, BvS is making bank based on word of mouth from fans, ignoring those dastardly critics, to being about how unfairly critics maligned the film and cut its legs at the box office.

At least TDKR brought is this excellent scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enOHraf3LEk

 

[Dalek]

I'm not even sure TDKR is better than BvS.

Oh come on-it's not that bad.

As Disco said, it's a pretty decent movie marred with just some baffling decisions that are hard to get past.

 

[Diprosalic]

Oh come on-it's not that bad.

yeah probably isn't but TDKR pissed me off and i was just meh about BvS

 

[MMarston]

I'm not even sure TDKR is better than BvS.

A solid brick can figure out that TDKR is better than BvS

 

[ZoddGutts]

People can watch TDKR more than once? It was already difficult to finish watching it the first time.

 

[M.W.]

Will it hit $1B WW?

 

[LaNaranja]

I personally enjoyed Batman v Superman more than TDKR. Hell, TDKR was weaker than Green Lantern. Come at me.

 

[Future Foundation]

I wonder how fast the narrative will pivot from, BvS is making bank based on word of mouth from fans, ignoring those dastardly critics, to being about how unfairly critics maligned the film and cut its legs at the box office.

At least TDKR brought is this excellent scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enOHraf3LEk

When the second weekend happens.

 

[TheWraith]

People can watch TDKR more than once? It was already difficult to finish watching it the first time.

There are people who disliked TDKR? Oh Neogaf...

 

[Dahbomb]

All this hyperbolic TDKR hate....

Never change GAF.

 

[GSG Flash]

Ok yeah that was a pretty bad scene. I could've acted out a death better than that(and I'm a really shitty actor with only highschool drama class experience).

TDKR definitely had it's problems, it was slow(compared to TDK) with lots of over-acting abound, but I still enjoyed it for the most part.

 

[Dalek]

People can watch TDKR more than once? It was already difficult to finish watching it the first time.

I watched the first two many, many times. But I only ever watched TDKR that one time in the theater. Never had a desire to watch it again.

 

[DeathyBoy]

I personally enjoyed Batman v Superman more than TDKR. Hell, TDKR was weaker than Green Lantern. Come at me.

That's bait.

 

[M.W.]

I watched the first two many, many times. But I only ever watched TDKR that one time in the theater. Never had a desire to watch it again.

It's Nolan's worst movie.

 

[CaviarMeths]

I wonder how that take even made it into the final cut. Nolan is a good director. Surely he would have watched that and asked for a few more takes... right? Weird. Weirder than that lazy "part time" take that ended up in the final cut of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

 

[Mr. Pointy]

Seriously, TDKR is not a great movie, but it's light years better than BvS and more interesting than the first Cap movie, which was pretty good.

 

[jman2050]

Irrational TDKR hate is about as mystifying to me as the irrational Jurassic World hate.

 

[Dalek]

I wonder how that take even made it into the final cut. Nolan is a good director. Surely he would have watched that and asked for a few more takes... right? Weird. Weirder than that lazy "part time" take that ended up in the final cut of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

Now there's a movie I wonder if people ever watched more than once.

 

[Future Foundation]

Rth on BOT says $8.5M for Wednesday. About a 30% drop. Based off of that number, definitely don't see it doing better than $55M for the weekend.

Rth projected the Friday numbers at $17-18 million. Someone smarter than me in this thread - what does that add up to for the weekend (w/ drops and such)?

 

[MMarston]

Irrational TDKR hate is about as mystifying to me as the irrational Jurassic World hate.

Don't forget Star Trek Into Darkness

 

[Anth0ny]

I'm not even sure TDKR is better than BvS.

I personally enjoyed Batman v Superman more than TDKR. Hell, TDKR was weaker than Green Lantern. Come at me.

 

[Discotheque]

Now there's a movie I wonder if people ever watched more than once.

i saw some of the opening again on tv. i will never subject myself to that whole movie again

the sting of that disappointment hurts more than a million iffy batmans or spidermans.

 

[CaviarMeths]

Now there's a movie I wonder if people ever watched more than once.

Well I've only seen it once, but I also watched the Plinkett review which almost counts as a full viewing too.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Don't forget Star Trek Into Darkness

There are extremely justifiable reasons what that's a pile of trash.

 

[Jigorath]

There are people who disliked TDKR? Oh Neogaf...

Why's that controversial? The Dark Knight is my favorite comic book movie ever but I can recognize that TDKR has a lot of issues. I understand why people dislike it.

 

[munchie64]

Burn this thread to the ground.

It's dead. Bury it.

 

[jman2050]

I didn't hate Into Darkness but it had some big problems. Neither JW nor TDKR are perfect movies by any means and have their own issues to deal with but the lengths some people will go to drag them through the mud (comparing TDKR to Green Lantern. GREEN LANTERN of all things) appears borderline obsessive.

 

[MMarston]

Burn this thread to the ground.

It's dead. Bury it.

Tell me


Do you salt?

Spoiler

You won't

 

[Dalek]

i saw some of the opening again on tv. i will never subject myself to that whole movie again

the sting of that disappointment hurts more than a million iffy batmans or spidermans.

Man if they could had a camera on my face for that movie...we'd have some great reaction GIFs.

 

[LaNaranja]

I didn't hate Into Darkness but it had some big problems. Neither JW nor TDKR are perfect movies by any means and have their own issues to deal with but the lengths some people will go to drag them through the mud (comparing TDKR to Green Lantern. GREEN LANTERN of all things) appears borderline obsessive.

Green Lantern was ok. So was TDKR. The former is just slightly more entertaining.

 

[guek]

I wonder how that take even made it into the final cut. Nolan is a good director. Surely he would have watched that and asked for a few more takes... right? Weird. Weirder than that lazy "part time" take that ended up in the final cut of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

Isn't Nolan notorious for shooting the minimal amount of takes for a scene? I thought I heard that once but it may have been for another director.

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

Irrational TDKR hate is about as mystifying to me as the irrational Jurassic World hate.

Woah woah woah.

There is literally no such thing as irrational Jurassic World hate. There is nothing redeeming about that film unless your biggest dream in life was to see a shitty SyFy movie with a massive budget.

 

[CaviarMeths]

The only entertaining thing about Green Lantern is that I still joke about Hal punching a giant shit cloud into the sun 5 years later.

 

[Gastone]

It's Nolan's worst movie.

You haven't watched Memento.

 

[Dalek]

You haven't watched Memento.

Stop right there.

 

[MMarston]

Woah woah woah.

There is literally no such thing as irrational Jurassic World hate. There is nothing redeeming about that film

Dumb as fuck as the film was, JW fulfilled my childhood dreams of

Spoiler

a raptor riding a T-Rex as they cooperatively fuck up GMOsaurus Rex.

You haven't watched Memento.

This fucking forum.

 

[jmood88]

People can watch TDKR more than once? It was already difficult to finish watching it the first time.

I haven't seen it since the midnight release. I had to go back to a post I made on a forum I used to frequent to remember why I hated it so much.

 

[Jigorath]

You haven't watched Memento.

We've entered Bizarro World now.