Captain America: Civil War - Final Trailer

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just wait until it's out in europe but not north america

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Why the hell is this becoming the norm? I'm all for releasing at the same time, but this trend of releasing one or two weeks later in America is bullshit.
 
Civil War is a story that requires the characters to have deep interpersonal relationships with one another. That is something BvS disregards entirely. There's almost no similarity outside of some core themes about collateral damage.


Why the hell is this becoming the norm? I'm all for releasing at the same time, but this trend of releasing one or two weeks later in America is bullshit.

Disney does it to curb piracy in European markets, and apparently it works. So it'll continue happening.
 
Well, they wreck it in ant-man as well. I mean I don't think its wrecked, but still.


I do absolutely love that scene, I was rewatching winter soldier last night with the directors commentary on, and they say they wanted to emphasise the fact that Cap has lost everything, and has no identity, hence why he hooked up with Shield, and all his relationships are gone, hence exemplified by the fact Peggy's mind is gone.

Fucking great scene in a great movie.

It really is a great scene. Absolutely heart-breaking. It's why I'm torn on it. I just want more Peggy!

I'd love for them to do a Peggy Carter and the Howling Commandos movie. That episode of Agent Carter guest starring them was a lot of fun. An hour and a half black ops mission with Peggy and the Commandos would be a lot of fun.

I really enjoyed the WW2 segment of The First Avenger, so another movie visiting that time period would be cool for me.
 
It really is a great scene. Absolutely heart-breaking. It's why I'm torn on it. I just want more Peggy!

I'd love for them to do a Peggy Carter and the Howling Commandos movie. That episode of Agent Carter guest starring them was a lot of fun. An hour and a half black ops mission with Peggy and the Commandos would be a lot of fun.

I really enjoyed the WW2 segment of The First Avenger, so another movie visiting that time period would be cool for me.

I fantasize about such a movie with a surprise Winter Soldier cameo, though that would have to be a Cold War movie
 
Mickey Mouse could be the villain. Im just going by whats been presented in the trailers. And "the villain" appears to be Tony Stark.

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Did you totally not notice the guy who's life goal was to reignite the super soldier program and creating the Abomination is suddenly a benevolent guy who's worried about "people being afraid" of the Avengers? He doesn't give a tupenny jizz about the public's perception of The Avengers, he wants something.
 
I'm 95% certain Bruhl's Zemo sticks around past Civil War.

I'm feeling this too. He's in the movie but has a role to play beyond it.

Infinity War is coming up on us sooner than it feels. They need to start planting seeds for what's going to be happening after Thanos, and Zemo could be a part of it.
 
Following an incident involving the Avengers, which resulted in much collateral damage, politicians propose a governing body to monitor the activities of superheroes. This brings Steve Rogers into conflict with Tony Stark, with the other Avengers choosing sides behind Captain America and Iron Man. But while fighting each other, they must work out how to protect the world from a new enemy...

So its not Stark.
 
So its not Stark.

We've known it's not Stark for a while. People only consider him a villain in Civil War because it was horribly written and basically turned him into a supervillain. The movies have shown that they're capable of handling something like this with a little more nuance, it's not going to be as black and white as the book, where it was overwhelmingly obvious that Cap was right and Stark was on a massive ego trip.
 
Proto-Red Hulk and Zemo forming the basis for the Thunderbolts. Mark it.

We've known it's not Stark for a while. People only consider him a villain in Civil War because it was horribly written and basically turned him into a supervillain. The movies have shown that they're capable of handling something like this with a little more nuance, it's not going to be as black and white as the book, where it was overwhelmingly obvious that Cap was right and Stark was on a massive ego trip.

Didn't they explicitly mention they wanted to avoid the ridiculous extremes of the comic where Tony literally made an interdimensional Gulag for non-conformists?

The angle with Tony wanting to genuinely stop someone who a year prior was murdering anybody he was told to in cold blood with super-soldier precision is totally more empathetic a reason for conflict.
 
Proto-Red Hulk and Zemo forming the basis for the Thunderbolts. Mark it.


Thunderbolts, Dark Reign or Masters of Evil, basically any of these would work for a Phase 4 conflict and Zemo could be a central part of it.



And yeah in regards to the Stark stuff, we already know that it's going to be far more balanced this time around. What's becoming clear to us since the last trailer is that Bucky definitely does something bad, he may or may not have been brainwashed to do it, and Cap puts protecting him a priority over everything else. Which makes a lot of sense from Cap's perspective, but Tony wants to take down the guy who killed his parents, a whole lot of other people, and possibly just blew up a Wakandan envoy or something.
 
I thought it would be phase 3, then reboot?

http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Phase_Four

Phase Four was confirmed in a set of two announcements by Marvel Studios in 2014.

Kevin Feige announced in May 2014 that Marvel Studios had already planned out its films for the next 14 years, up until 2028.

During a later press conference in October 2014, Feige confirmed that Phase Three would run between 2016 to 2019. He confirmed that Phase Four, and even additional phases, had already been planned or were being planned by saying that "(if) there are more years after 2019, then there will be movies. I hope there will be more years."
 
You'll probably see Cap, Iron Man, and Thor 'retire' or at least have their roles reduced, with Doctor Strange, Ant-Man, Captain Marvel, and Black Panther becoming the new 'bedrocks' of the MCU, alongside any new heroes being reintroduced.
 
You'll probably see Cap, Iron Man, and Thor 'retire' or at least have their roles reduced, with Doctor Strange, Ant-Man, Captain Marvel, and Black Panther becoming the new 'bedrocks' of the MCU, alongside any new heroes being reintroduced.

I'm thinking these four + Spidey and Wasp are the New Avengers in Phase 4 and onward.
 
I fantasize about such a movie with a surprise Winter Soldier cameo, though that would have to be a Cold War movie


That would be really, really awesome.

I'd even frame it in the old film trope of Peggy and the Commandos being old and grizzled veterans, going on "One last mission," and then have Bucky show up as a secondary antagonist, killing a few of the Commandos, but still have Peggy and the survivors save the day. It'd be a bitter sweet ending, and can have some fun Captain America: The Winter Soldier and Captain America: Civil War foreshadowing and nods.

Throw in a Michael Douglas Hank Pym somewhere in there, and it'd be amazing.
 
Do you guys think Avengers: Infinity War Part 1 could star the Thunderbolts as a sort of "New Avengers" team, and have them be wrecked by Thanos by the end, outted as Baron Zemo and the Masters of Evil, and shit is looking grim, then have Infinity War Part 2 pick up with the street level heroes like Power Man, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Daredevil, and Spider-Man desperately trying to maintain order, only to finally have the return of the "original" Avengers, "Hulk, Thor, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Iron Man, and Captain America, who save the day and defeat Thanos, is a possibility? (EDIT: Holy shit that sentence is amazing
ly fucking long and run on
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That's so absurd and comic booky that I could see it happening. It would be a fun way to mix up the Netflix characters, even in brief cameos, but still have it focus on the core Avengers team.

A Thunderbolts movie in between Civil War and Infinity War could be cool, especially if they are introduced as heroes. Ultimately, I don't really care what happens, because I'm actually seeing the Marvel universe on the big screen (and small screen!), and it's been incredibly entertaining thus far. There is pretty much something for everyone in the Marvel output of films and tv shows, and you don't have to love it all, just pick and choose the tone/characters that interest you. So far, I've been entertained by all of it except for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., with my favorites being Daredevil, Iron Man 1, Cap 2, Jessica Jones, Guardians, and both Avengers (yes, I really enjoyed Age of Ultron). Thor 1 was also surprisingly entertaining, even with the horrible chemistry between Portman and Hemsworth.
 
We've known it's not Stark for a while. People only consider him a villain in Civil War because it was horribly written and basically turned him into a supervillain. The movies have shown that they're capable of handling something like this with a little more nuance, it's not going to be as black and white as the book, where it was overwhelmingly obvious that Cap was right and Stark was on a massive ego trip.

The game Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 was better written than the comics. They did the Civil Wars way better than the comics did.
 
I really hope so. The MCU needs more villains who stick around besides Loki and Thanos (guess Zola sorta counts too)

I can guarantee that if Zemo has a bigger plan in the works, Zola is involved and its gonna be awesome.

If this comes to pass I really hope Evans sticks around for Cap 4 and beyond, I need him there for the payoff with Zola.
 
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