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Curry's a tough one to really measure against Lebron and Kobe, especially Lebron. Lebron has carried some really average teams further than they had any business getting( the Cavs before he went to Miami comes to mind) and was such an all-around force. To me prime Lebron does more for your team, on both sides of the ball, and would probably carry an average team further than Curry could. Curry's a transcendent shooter, but he has some very nice pieces around him tailor-made for today's rules.

I tend to not credit LeBron as much as others do for "lifting average teams" as it was done in the Eastern Conference which has been essentially the minor leagues of basketball for most of that time frame (Celtic years the east was pretty good though). A few times they barely squeaked through the playoffs against some pretty bad teams. He only ever got a ring when he latched on to a player and organization that already had one. To me LeBron is not top 10.

The entire argument of peak awesomeness versus duration isn't all that interesting. I will say though that of the players commonly listed I would say that only Wilt, Jordan and now Curry fundamentally changed the way basketball is played and perceived. That means something.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

You really think someone is gonna hit nearly 400 3-pointers in a season again?

That record is Gretzky and Wilt esque. It ain't happening. No one has ever even reached 300 before Curry did this very season.

I think that the current generation always inspires the next. It took 20 years for 72 wins to happen again but it did.

I think someone might score 82 points one day and if it happens I will cheer for it.

I don't live in "never" when it comes to sports. It always finds a way to prove me wrong.

 

[mnannola]

something interesting regarding this GOAT issue.

Steph Curry's season average - 29.9, 6.7ast, 5.5rb, 2.1 steals, effective FG% of .626

Jordan's career average as a Bull - 31.5, 5.3st, 6.3rb, 2.5 steals, effective fg% of .518

1 year vs 13 years

Wilts career averages - 30.5, 22.9rb, 4.4ast, 45.8 MPG

Try harder Jordan

 

[MikeRahl]

I was looking through the slam dumb archives the other day and found this gem.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Most of those guys rankings are based off 12-15 years( or longer) careers. So you're saying Curry deserves to be in that tier off the basis of two elite seasons? And I notice you don't have Hakeem on there. So this year and last puts Curry over a guy with 2 rings himself, an MVP, a defensive player of the year, all-time blocked shots leader and #8 all-time in steals as a center?! And 26, 000 plus points and 13,000 plus rebounds....Curry's ahead of that guy already? My oh my....

I also like how he doesn't have Oscar Robertson on the list (who also had a god tier set of years ala Curry) but Curry is there.

LOL.

He might as well list Curry at #1 and be done with it.

 

[diffusionx]

He was great for 2 years, won MVP last year, and has taken his game into the stratosphere this year. I'm not sure where Curry is among the all time greats but if he can keep playing at or near this level for another 3-5 years... well it'd be interesting for sure. I couldn't put him in the top 10 after just this year, but I can certainly see a scenario where goes down as a top 5 player. It's not just that he's a great player and amazing at what he does, he totally changed the game.

Plus amazing defense from MJ.

So you admit that you are being completely bias and change the rankings based around players you like?

Do you admit that this is completely subjective?

 

[RDreamer]

something interesting regarding this GOAT issue.

Steph Curry's season average - 29.9, 6.7ast, 5.5rb, 2.1 steals, effective FG% of .626

Jordan's career average as a Bull - 31.5, 5.3st, 6.3rb, 2.5 steals, effective fg% of .518

1 year vs 13 years

Curry' season average comes with about 4 minutes less per game than Jordan's career mpg.

 

[Fjordson]

Curry's a tough one to really measure against Lebron and Kobe, especially Lebron. Lebron has carried some really average teams further than they had any business getting( the Cavs before he went to Miami comes to mind) and was such an all-around force. To me prime Lebron does more for your team, on both sides of the ball, and would probably carry an average team further than Curry could. Curry's a transcendent shooter, but he has some very nice pieces around him tailor-made for today's rules.

Offensively I'd put Curry right up there with Lebron. The Warriors are a great team, but they've been outscored this year without Curry. He's what elevates them to a historic level and he's having one of the 2 or 3 greatest offensive seasons in NBA history.

Guys, can we please stop this stupid, done to death discussion about how Curry stacks up against the GOAT.

The question right now is how does he currently stack up against the GOAT Point Guards? I'd currently put him #3 behind Magic and Oscar Robertson, but if he continues this type of performance for a few more years he could surpass both.

Still needs a few more years imo, but he'll definitely end up in the top 3-4 I think.

 

[Spinluck]

Top 10 all time?

Good god the Curry slurping has reached new heights. I love his game but can we slow down?

 

[rokkerkory]

Top 10 all time?

Good god the Curry slurping has reached new heights. I love his game but can we slow down?

Agree let's pump the brakes a bit here. Let's re-assess in a few years or after his career is over. Which isn't for a awhile.

 

[Servbot24]

Curry has 31.4 points per 36 minutes this year. Jordan beat that twice with 32.6 and 33.4.

 

[dragonyeuw]

I tend to not credit LeBron as much as others do for "lifting average teams" as it was done in the Eastern Conference which has been essentially the minor leagues of basketball for most of that time frame (Celtic years the east was pretty good though). A few times they barely squeaked through the playoffs against some pretty bad teams. He only ever got a ring when he latched on to a player and organization that already had one. To me LeBron is not top 10.

The entire argument of peak awesomeness versus duration isn't all that interesting. I will say though that of the players commonly listed I would say that only Wilt, Jordan and now Curry fundamentally changed the way basketball is played and perceived. That means something.

Fair enough on the point of the relatively weak state of the east when Lebron was previously on the Cavs. I won't really tackle the manner in which he got his rings, that's going to take the discussion off-point so keeping it on Curry:

The point of peak awesomeness vs duration is exactly the issue here. Because anyone thinking Curry is anywhere near a top-ten player is living in the moment, and forgetting just how awesome some of the aforementioned names were in their day. At some point, being a transcendent 3point shooter has become the gold standard for defining greatness? I enjoy watching Curry play, but as an all-around player he doesn't hold a candle to quite a few players. And yes, he does need to do more( duration) before this becomes a fair discussion. Right now, it seems like some people just started watching the NBA 2 years ago.

 

[dragonyeuw]

Offensively I'd put Curry right up there with Lebron. The Warriors are a great team, but they've been outscored this year without Curry. He's what elevates them to a historic level and he's having one of the 2 or 3 greatest offensive seasons in NBA history.

Offensively he's more potent and explosive, no doubt. Lebron was able to exert his physicality on the game( in tribute to his athletic gifts obviously) and obviously a far more impactful defender. Better overall passer too....

 

[Fjordson]

At some point, being a transcendent 3point shooter has become the gold standard for defining greatness? I enjoy watching Curry play, but as an all-around player he doesn't hold a candle to quite a few players..

To the bolded: sure, if it makes you one of the greatest scorers in history (which is the level Curry is playing at right now). And Curry is much more than a 3 point shooter.

To be clear, I agree you can't put him in the top 10 or anything like that yet, but at the same time it seems like some people still undersell just how much Curry impacts the game when he's on the floor.

 

[cLOUDo]

Curry is easily in the top 100 but you cant says he is on the top 10 just for 2 years.

Jordan was the king for years, even after his comeback he was a beast.

 

[Nafai1123]

it's pretty fun to discuss though lol

Oh I agree it's fun to discuss, but it's also irrelevant in a lot of ways. For example, people continually use Curry's defense as a knock against him, but when you compare him to the GOAT PG's, you'll notice that very few ever got All-D selection in their career, and the ones that WERE defensive power houses were not offensive power houses. Stockton, who was a five-time All-D selection, only averaged 13 PPG, though he was a terrific passer and led in assists.

Magic never got an All-D selection in his career and is considered one of if not the best PG of all time. Pretty sure Curry will never get an All-D selection either, but I don't think that will hurt him when discussing the greatest PG of all time, which seems to be to be the better metric to discuss given he's not even remotely close to having the same physicality as someone like MJ or even LBJ for that matter.

Curry to me is more of a combo guard than a pure point. I don't think he was a better floor general than Isiah, Stockton, or Kidd in their day. Obviously, he's light years ahead of them offensively. I'd go as far as to say neither of your top 2 points, Curry and Westbrook, are traditional point guards. We've had scoring PGs in years past, but it's being taken to a new level nowadays.

I agree he's less of a pure PG. He does a lot more off the ball to drive the offense than he does at the top of key dictating plays. Stats wise I think he'll compare most closely to Oscar towards the end of his career. Powerhouse on offense that's smart about getting boards and has the capability of getting a ton of assists. Hopefully he'll be able to continue this production throughout the next 5 years or so. If he does I think he'll end up usurping Magic for top PG spot and will be known as one of the best offensive players in history. I think there will always be that asterisk next to his name though when talking about GOAT due to his defensive abilities and physicality.

 

[dragonyeuw]

To the bolded: sure, if it makes you one of the greatest scorers in history (which is the level Curry is playing at right now). And Curry is much more than a 3 point shooter.

To be clear, I agree you can't put him in the top 10 or anything like that yet, but at the same time it seems like some people still undersell just how much Curry impacts the game when he's on the floor.

But he's done this for one year, he wasn't even at this point last year. So to your second point, yes, it's too soon to be having this discussion when you start throwing his name up with the likes of Jordan, Wilt, Russell, etc etc. The reality is each of those players dominated in their own way, not with Curry's degree of shooting but they had their own blend of transcendent abilities and skills. Curry's shooting is not 'THE' standard for excellence by which everyone before him should be retroactively measured. I mean, someone's logic above pretty much translated to taking Shaq out of the top ten because of Curry's 3point shooting. Really?! I know its been 15 years, but have we forgotten how much of a fcuking monster prime Shaq was?

 

[Gully State]

I was looking through the slam dumb archives the other day and found this gem.

Think about all the strats teams employ today and trends in the league...

Small ball
Stretch 4's
Centers shooting 3's
Point forward
Hack a _____
outside - in basketball

Nellie invented all that and was employing that 30 years prior...It's just too bad he wasn't as innovative on the defensive end.

 

[TSM]

What's funny is that if curry got injured next year and lost a huge step he might not get in the hof. A bit early to be putting him above hofers.

 

[diffusionx]

But he's done this for one year, he wasn't even at this point last year. So to your second point, yes, it's too soon to be having this discussion when you start throwing his name up with the likes of Jordan, Wilt, Russell, etc etc. The reality is each of those players dominated in their own way, not with Curry's degree of shooting but they had their own blend of transcendent abilities and skills. Curry's shooting is not 'THE' standard for excellence by which everyone before him should be retroactively measured. I mean, someone's logic above pretty much translated to taking Shaq out of the top ten because of Curry's 3point shooting. Really?! I know its been 15 years, but have we forgotten how much of a fcuking monster prime Shaq was?

Last year he was MVP on a 66 win championship team. The fact is that he could have played at that extremely high level this year and probably have won MVP on another 66 win team. The fact that he took it to another level entirely was a huge (and welcome) surprise.

And yes people do forget these things. Plus the game is very different to how it was in the 1990s - this is something Kerr talked about when someone asked him how this team measures up to his Bulls 72-10 team. I don't think people believe every player's shooting has to be compared to Curry (which would not be fair, since he's the best shooter ever), just that it's what makes Curry great.

 

[Fjordson]

What's funny is that if curry got injured next year and lost a huge step he might not get in the hof. A bit early to be putting him above hofers.

It could happen, but with two MVP's and a ring I think Curry is close to a lock at this point. The basketball HOF isn't terribly difficult to get into tbh (relative to other sports) and every single MVP winner in NBA history is in it or will be soon.

Though I think we may see the first MVP in history to not eventually make it in with Derrick Rose.

But he's done this for one year, he wasn't even at this point last year. So to your second point, yes, it's too soon to be having this discussion when you start throwing his name up with the likes of Jordan, Wilt, Russell, etc etc. The reality is each of those players dominated in their own way, not with Curry's degree of shooting but they had their own blend of transcendent abilities and skills. Curry's shooting is not 'THE' standard for excellence by which everyone before him should be retroactively measured. I mean, someone's logic above pretty much translated to taking Shaq out of the top ten because of Curry's 3point shooting. Really?! I know its been 15 years, but have we forgotten how much of a fcuking monster prime Shaq was?

Agreed on that. I just meant that Curry's shooting ability is as historically great as any skill from any other legend.

Oh I agree it's fun to discuss, but it's also irrelevant in a lot of ways. For example, people continually use Curry's defense as a knock against him, but when you compare him to the GOAT PG's, you'll notice that very few ever got All-D selection in their career, and the ones that WERE defensive power houses were not offensive power houses. Stockton, who was a five-time All-D selection, only averaged 13 PPG, though he was a terrific passer and led in assists.

Magic never got an All-D selection in his career and is considered one of if not the best PG of all time. Pretty sure Curry will never get an All-D selection either, but I don't think that will hurt him when discussing the greatest PG of all time, which seems to be to be the better metric to discuss given he's not even remotely close to having the same physicality as someone like MJ or even LBJ for that matter.



I agree he's less of a pure PG. He does a lot more off the ball to drive the offense than he does at the top of key dictating plays. Stats wise I think he'll compare most closely to Oscar towards the end of his career. Powerhouse on offense that's smart about getting boards and has the capability of getting a ton of assists. Hopefully he'll be able to continue this production throughout the next 5 years or so. If he does I think he'll end up usurping Magic for top PG spot and will be known as one of the best offensive players in history. I think there will always be that asterisk next to his name though when talking about GOAT due to his defensive abilities and physicality.

Good points here. The defense thing gets way overblown. He's leading the league in steals and is simply not a bad defender at this point. Like you mentioned, other legendary point guards like Magic couldn't guard a folding chair, but it always gets overlooked.

And his assists are somewhat low compared to other top PG's, but that's only because he's a historic scorer at the position. He'd literally be hurting the team by shooting less and with all the double teams and traps he sees he's often passing it off to someone else for the hockey assist. No coincidence that he's first in secondary assists and his power forward is 7th in the league in assists.

 

[offtopic]

Fair enough on the point of the relatively weak state of the east when Lebron was previously on the Cavs. I won't really tackle the manner in which he got his rings, that's going to take the discussion off-point so keeping it on Curry:

The point of peak awesomeness vs duration is exactly the issue here. Because anyone thinking Curry is anywhere near a top-ten player is living in the moment, and forgetting just how awesome some of the aforementioned names were in their day. At some point, being a transcendent 3point shooter has become the gold standard for defining greatness? I enjoy watching Curry play, but as an all-around player he doesn't hold a candle to quite a few players. And yes, he does need to do more( duration) before this becomes a fair discussion. Right now, it seems like some people just started watching the NBA 2 years ago.

Since we all have our own opinions with regard to peak vs. duration one interesting way to think about it is - Is there a scenario where a season can lift a player in the GOAT discussion? Say, would 70ppg on 90%true shooting%, undefeated in regular and post season and then is in an accident and can never play again do it? This is just a general question not specific to Curry.

For me, yes, I'd tell my kids that I witnessed the greatest basketball player to ever play the game. So, somewhere in there is a sliding scale between peak and duration. I just have to self aware enough not to move the goalposts because I like this player v. that player.

 

[offtopic]

It could happen, but with two MVP's and a ring I think Curry is close to a lock at this point. The basketball HOF isn't terribly difficult to get into tbh (relative to other sports) and every single MVP winner in NBA history is in it or will be soon.

Though I think we may see the first MVP in history to not eventually make it in with Derrick Rose.


Agreed on that. I just meant that Curry's shooting ability is as historically great as any skill from any other legend.


Good points here. The defense thing gets way overblown. He's leading the league in steals and is simply not a bad defender at this point. Like you mentioned, other legendary point guards like Magic couldn't guard a folding chair, but it always gets overlooked.

And his assists are somewhat low compared to other top PG's, but that's only because he's a historic scorer at the position. He'd literally be hurting the team by shooting less and with all the double teams and traps he sees he's often passing it off to someone else for the hockey assist. No coincidence that he's first in secondary assists and his power forward is 7th in the league in assists.

Yup. Routinely getting doubled 35ft from the basket has a way of getting the ball out of your hands. Its called playing smart basketball.

Curry is a very good defender.

 

[Servbot24]

What's funny is that if curry got injured next year and lost a huge step he might not get in the hof. A bit early to be putting him above hofers.

I don't know what the parameters are, but it doesn't seem like an injury should keep someone with two MVPs and two rings out.

 

[Chezzymann]

........seriously?

When people think of MJ as the GOAT, most only think of the offensive side. They never talk about how he was considered by a lot of his peers as the best defender of his era as well.

Well I mean he's already one of if not the best shooters ever considering he has a shot to make 400 3s in one season. That's ridiculous. Not the all around best player but at least in one (very important) category.

 

[RDreamer]

I don't know what the parameters are, but it doesn't seem like an injury should keep someone with two MVPs and two rings out.

Seriously, if he's sitting after this season with two MVPs, two rings in a row, and a team with the record number of wins in regular season it'd be a crime for him to be kept out due to injury or something.

 

[Gully State]

I think Curry is pretty much a lock to be a basketball HOF'er ....but top 10 GOAT? he needs more seasons like these past two for us to start having that conversationt.

 

[PadWarrior]

Where do you guys think Green and Thompson when it's all said and done?

 

[Fluffhead14]

It's not the "NBA" HoF, it's the basketball HoF. Curry is no doubt.

He'd also be in without a doubt if it was just the NBA. The advanced metrics on this guy's shooting is insane. He's literally doing stuff not thought possible before.

 

[Servbot24]

Where do you guys think Green and Thompson when it's all said and done?

If everything goes right for GSW, I think those guys are fully deserving of being Curry's Pippen and Rodman. They're better at some things and worse at some things, but they have the potential to be just as important of stars on the team.

Soooo much has to go right over the next few years though. One injury could end the conversation.

 

[Fjordson]

I think Draymond and Klay will both be in the hall of fame one day, especially if they can win a gold medal or two starting this summer.

Draymond especially is a super unique talent. The way he plays inside despite being undersized coupled with his increased ability at running the offense is incredible to watch.

 

[dragonyeuw]

Last year he was MVP on a 66 win championship team. The fact is that he could have played at that extremely high level this year and probably have won MVP on another 66 win team. The fact that he took it to another level entirely was a huge (and welcome) surprise.

And yes people do forget these things. Plus the game is very different to how it was in the 1990s - this is something Kerr talked about when someone asked him how this team measures up to his Bulls 72-10 team. I don't think people believe every player's shooting has to be compared to Curry (which would not be fair, since he's the best shooter ever), just that it's what makes Curry great.

I know what he did last year. It wasn't the 'historic' performance we're seeing this year. So between this year, and last, in my entirely subjective opinion, it's too soon for this discussion. I say just enjoy watching the greatness unfold and see where we are in 5 years.

Agreed on that. I just meant that Curry's shooting ability is as historically great as any skill from any other legend.

Fair enough point. If he keeps this up, in terms of his own play AND it contributes to the next great dynasty, then it's a good discussion. But right now, we're living in the moment and I think we need to see players careers play out first before seeing how they compare to past greats. I mean, you can make a case that this player does this greater than other players( like Curry being a better shooter than anyone ever), but we're talking about the GOAT list of players. He hasn't done enough yet to warrant discussion.

Since we all have our own opinions with regard to peak vs. duration one interesting way to think about it is - Is there a scenario where a season can lift a player in the GOAT discussion? Say, would 70ppg on 90%true shooting%, undefeated in regular and post season and then is in an accident and can never play again do it? This is just a general question not specific to Curry.

For me, yes, I'd tell my kids that I witnessed the greatest basketball player to ever play the game. So, somewhere in there is a sliding scale between peak and duration. I just have to self aware enough not to move the goalposts because I like this player v. that player.

I suppose, but something like that would be so unlikely it's probably not worth thinking too much about.

 

[PadWarrior]

If everything goes right for GSW, I think those guys are fully deserving of being Curry's Pippen and Rodman. They're better at some things and worse at some things, but they have the potential to be just as important of stars on the team.

Soooo much has to go right over the next few years though. One injury could end the conversation.

I think Draymond and Klay will both be in the hall of fame one day, especially if they can win a gold medal or two starting this summer.

Draymond especially is a super unique talent. The way he plays inside despite being undersized coupled with his increased ability at running the offense is incredible to watch.

I love watching dray play d. It's amazing how he can guard all five spots. Klay I think doesn't get enough praise for his d. He can essentially guard two guard spots and the small forward.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

And I notice you don't have Hakeem on there.

Was just thinking this the other day: Is Hakeem Olajuwon the least-talked-about all-time great in NBA history? Almost nobody brings that guy up, and he's maybe the best center I've ever actually witnessed in action.

 

[Fjordson]

I love watching dray play d. It's amazing how he can guard all five spots. Klay I think doesn't get enough praise for his d. He can essentially guard two guard spots and the small forward.

Yep, Klay is essential to a lot of what the Warriors do.

And it sometimes gets lost in the shuffle because of Curry's greatness, but it's hilarious to me that Klay himself has 272 threes this year. Which is a lot! If Steph Curry didn't exist then Klay Thompson would need just one 3 on Wednesday to set the all-time record for made 3's in a season.

Unfortunately, Curry does exist, so Klay is 120 threes short :lol

Was just thinking this the other day: Is Hakeem Olajuwon the least-talked-about all-time great in NBA history? Almost nobody brings that guy up, and he's maybe the best center I've ever actually witnessed in action.

Hakeem and David Robinson both are somewhat under appreciated I think. Two of the best big men ever.

 

[Stat Flow]

I say just enjoy watching the greatness unfold and see where we are in 5 years.

Part of enjoying greatness is speculating how long that greatness will last. Will it go to an even further height...What will happen next season...how much more will he do?

These questions are all a part of a discussion when history is being made. I think this is the process of enjoying it. I don't think the questions are harmful at all. I haven't seen anyone say "Curry is the GOAT" or anything definitive. It all started with "how much more does he have to do?"...a valid question because we've seen that he has the potential now.

 

[GatorBait]

Curry Supernova. He needs 8 3pts to reach 400 in the last game. I hope the team will play for this record.

With every three-point shot he makes, he sets a new record. At this point, 400 is a goal simply because it is a nice round number. If he doesn't break 400 this year, it's wholly possible he could do it in a future season considering the low number of minutes he has played this year compared to other star players.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Was just thinking this the other day: Is Hakeem Olajuwon the least-talked-about all-time great in NBA history? Almost nobody brings that guy up, and he's maybe the best center I've ever actually witnessed in action.

David Robinson moreso, particularly because of the Finals matchup against Hakeem and him not getting his rings until Duncan arrived.

 

[PadWarrior]

Yep, Klay is essential to a lot of what the Warriors do.

And it sometimes gets lost in the shuffle because of Curry's greatness, but it's hilarious to me that Klay himself has 272 threes this year. Which is a lot! If Steph Curry didn't exist then Klay Thompson would need just one 3 on Wednesday to set the all-time record for made 3's in a season.

Unfortunately, Curry does exist, so Klay is 120 threes short :lol


Hakeem and David Robinson both are somewhat under appreciated I think. Two of the best big men ever.

272 is insane lol. But yea like you said some guy named Curry overshadows that lol

 

[dragonyeuw]

Was just thinking this the other day: Is Hakeem Olajuwon the least-talked-about all-time great in NBA history? Almost nobody brings that guy up, and he's maybe the best center I've ever actually witnessed in action.

If you really think about it, you don't hear 'a great deal' about many of MJ's 90's contemporaries unless they stayed around the game publicly( like Barkley being a commentator). But Hakeem, David Robinson, Malone, Ewing....you don't hear a ton of discussion about those guys nowadays, I suppose especially considering they didn't win( asides from Hakeem) and aren't public personalities( like the aforementioned Barkley).

Part of enjoying greatness is speculating how long that greatness will last. Will it go to an even further height...What will happen next season...how much more will he do?

These questions are all a part of a discussion when history is being made. I think this is the process of enjoying it. I don't think the questions are harmful at all. I haven't seen anyone say "Curry is the GOAT" or anything definitive. It all started with "how much more does he have to do?"...a valid question because we've seen that he has the potential now.

And that's fine, 10 years ago we were all gushing over how great Lebron was going to be and where he's wind up. But when people are arguing he's already a top 10 player, which you should have read about, then it ceases becoming a fun discussion about potential and becomes a prisoner of the moment scenario disrespecting the past greats.

 

[beat]

David Robinson moreso, particularly because of the Finals matchup against Hakeem and him not getting his rings until Duncan arrived.

Also, Hakeem greatly outdid him in the WCF where they met, so Robinson is rightly ranked below Hakeem.

 

[Stabby McSter]

let's just rename this thread "Steve Kerr Supernova"

he's the real GOAT

 

[dragonyeuw]

Also, Hakeem greatly outdid him in the WCF where they met, so Robinson is rightly ranked below Hakeem.

David Robinson and Hakeem were pretty much considered neck and neck before 93/94, its really when Hakeem won those titles that he separated himself perception-wise from the Admiral. Outside of that one series, which admittedly should carry weight because of the stakes, the Admiral historically played Hakeem very well.

In fact, Robinson was generally considered the best center in 92. Alot of people were actually comparing his overall value to Jordan at that point.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Also, Hakeem greatly outdid him in the WCF where they met, so Robinson is rightly ranked below Hakeem.

I would say that's an understatement

 

[DataStream]

1. Stephen Curry 392 2015-16 GSW
2. Stephen Curry 286 2014-15 GSW
3. Klay Thompson 272 2015-16 GSW
Stephen Curry 272 2012-13 GSW
5. Ray Allen 269 2005-06 SEA
6. Dennis Scott 267 1995-96 ORL
7. Stephen Curry 261 2013-14 GSW
8. George McCloud 257 1995-96 DAL
9. Jason Richardson 243 2007-08 CHA
10. Peja Stojakovic 240 2003-04 SAC
11. Klay Thompson 239 2014-15 GSW

 

[Servbot24]

1. Stephen Curry 392 2015-16 GSW
2. Stephen Curry 286 2014-15 GSW
3. Klay Thompson 272 2015-16 GSW
4. Stephen Curry 272 2012-13 GSW
5. Ray Allen 269 2005-06 SEA
6. Dennis Scott 267 1995-96 ORL
7. Stephen Curry 261 2013-14 GSW
8. George McCloud 257 1995-96 DAL
9. Jason Richardson 243 2007-08 CHA
10. Peja Stojakovic 240 2003-04 SAC
11. Klay Thompson 239 2014-15 GSW

GSW could conceivably own every top 10 spot in 3 years.

 

[PadWarrior]

1. Stephen Curry 392 2015-16 GSW
2. Stephen Curry 286 2014-15 GSW
3. Klay Thompson 272 2015-16 GSW
Stephen Curry 272 2012-13 GSW
5. Ray Allen 269 2005-06 SEA
6. Dennis Scott 267 1995-96 ORL
7. Stephen Curry 261 2013-14 GSW
8. George McCloud 257 1995-96 DAL
9. Jason Richardson 243 2007-08 CHA
10. Peja Stojakovic 240 2003-04 SAC
11. Klay Thompson 239 2014-15 GSW

That is not fair lol

 

[Fjordson]

1. Stephen Curry 392 2015-16 GSW
2. Stephen Curry 286 2014-15 GSW
3. Klay Thompson 272 2015-16 GSW
Stephen Curry 272 2012-13 GSW
5. Ray Allen 269 2005-06 SEA
6. Dennis Scott 267 1995-96 ORL
7. Stephen Curry 261 2013-14 GSW
8. George McCloud 257 1995-96 DAL
9. Jason Richardson 243 2007-08 CHA
10. Peja Stojakovic 240 2003-04 SAC
11. Klay Thompson 239 2014-15 GSW

Lmao wow. So Klay would already have the record if Steph didn't exist.

 

[VoxPop]

Curry is certainly not near top 5.. yet.

He is without a doubt the greatest shooter the league has seen and a fantastic player. If he gets the MVP and a chip this year, he will definitely be making it into the top 10 for me. He didn't have to assemble some super-team to get his first ring and plays in the West which already puts him above LeBron for me (I'm a huge LeBron nuthugger).

It's a matter of if he can keep up at the same pace throughout the rest of his career. If he gets a 3-peat next year, it would really be hard to deny the guy of one of the top spots. It will certainly get tougher when the entire league starts drawing up plays to shut down Curry which I'm sure still won't be easy. I'm just glad I got to witness his ridiculous season and it will forever be one of the best ever if they get the title.

I'm curious to see how LeBron will react next year and see what kinda team he puts together to even try and compete. While I'm interested in how a healthy Cavs team does against them this year, I still don't see them getting it done in a 7 game series. I think LeBron's time in the limelight is pretty much done as long as the trifecta in GS is still around. He should honestly leave the shitshow in Cleveland and go back to Miami where he'd have a better shot.

 

[DataStream]

GSW could conceivably own every top 10 spot in 3 years.

That is not fair lol

At this point, I'd rather see Klay set the single game record and get 14 to be tied for #2 than Curry get 400.

The idea of the #1 and #2 positions on that chart being on the same squad during the same year is almost incomprehensible (not that #1 and #3 isn't already insane).