New clip presents the superhero registration debate in Captain America: Civil War
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In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
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I know it doesn't work in the current MCU status quo, but I'm still #You'reAllFuckedWhenTheHulkGetsBack
Graphics Horse
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can a mod please change the thread title to Thanos debate
i do but that is mainly because of the comics.
Don't listen to this guy! He's on #TeamUltimatum and #TeamIncest
Sorry about that. Can a mod change the thread title to "New clip presents the superhero registration debate in Captain America 3"?
still love Namor correctly calling that. he wanted no part of it. lol
Linkstrikesback
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Except not really?
Cap, despite all his honesty and really thinking his ideas are for the best, could do nothing to stop Tony or his mistakes in Age of Ultron, whereas government oversight would at least have meant it took more than tony having a bad idea and talking one friend in to a mistake that nearly caused a global extinction event.
Up to Winter Solider, really, the little we saw of them (as the avengers) had them mostly working for Shield, whether Steve wants to admit it or not. Nick Fury being in charge worked out far better than the only real comparison we have so far (of Tony and Steve basically at the helm) in AoU. Now of course, the whole hydra thing is/was a big problem, which would obviously need to be avoided from repeating, but still...
Ultimatum was fantastic, and yo, let's be real, the aftermath of a live action QuicksilverxScarletWitch would've been GLORIOUS.
The Ultimate Universe cannot be beat.
Complaining about this being a spoiler is like complaining that Batman and Superman fight in BvS.
Movie ruined. Thanks.
this
First Funko Pops peddling and now this lies and slander? We are SO DONE.
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Ultimate Spider-Man was great but the rest...
The Ultimate Universe gave us Ultimate Reed Richards.
It's perfection.
I knew you were a no-good #Team Iron Man Redcoat, WA.
FlashbladeGAF
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He's in the thread so he can tell the OP to title his threads better.
It would be one thing if the OP left the registration part in the OP, but he put it in the damn title for everyone to see.
The Artisan
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team avengers
Inferno313
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It's literally in every trailer for the film.
It's the premise of the film. It's NOT a spoiler.
The Artisan
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he thinks they need to be put in check. by who? and those "who", how are we to know their judgement is what should rule all others?
"It's our fault I fucked up #team."
I was so careful not to include him in the title too.
By elected/appointed officials of a countries, something like that. I mean why should they have free reign?
ebullientprism
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I really hope they give Stark a good position to argue for. Cause right now the support for Captain is pretty much unanimous.
Orbis Tabula
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No point in coming up with a Civil War thread title now. It'll be "Civil War |OT| Spoilers: Registration is in this"
Oppo
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it's hilarious how the marketing for this film completely capitalizes on the natural tendencies of folks to want to #pickateam
and the choices are almost always emotional
and we all totally buy into this "choice" frame thinking it's an actual choice
it's kind of brilliant. I've gotta give it up for Marvel Marketing, people will write theses on this
and the choices are almost always emotional
and we all totally buy into this "choice" frame thinking it's an actual choice
it's kind of brilliant. I've gotta give it up for Marvel Marketing, people will write theses on this
Inferno313
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It was the same thing for BvS. I don't think anyone is actually fooled, but it's fun in a silly way.
We all know they're going to team up at the end anyways.
The rum isn't gonna finish itself brohiem.
OmegaSmash
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Cap is anti-reg because of muh Bucky. Iron Man is pro-reg because he knows that one should be accountable for one's actions, or else we get stuff like Ultron.
The registration is the entire premise how's that a spoiler
If you are on blackout and don't view trailers or read comics, you have no idea what 'registration' is. I think thats the posters point. The thread is fine, but leave the detail to the actual OP so people skimming the Off Topic board don't have even what you consider to be minor details spoiled.
Its called having fun. Everyone here knows this shit ain't real.
Exactly, that politicians have agendas does not invalidate that all of these guys operate above the law.
I don't doubt Cap's motivations to be sincere, but "the ends justify the means" is not good enough. You still would have the right to choose bro, what you are doing is choosing to break the law. If in the end you did it "for the greater good" it will be taken into consideration when your actions are judged, but that still means you accepted the responsibility beforehand to handwaive the laws of the land to do it.
Right now you are not.
#TeamIronMan fuckers
Inferno313
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Nah. Knowing this doesn't affect your enjoyment of the film at all. It's just assholish to police other people's conversations so that you can have a "pristine" experience.
Oppo
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oh I know! I love these films, I'm not trying to be a drag
but we all know it will be #teamAvengers in the end
and the frame of the choice, the hashtag marketing, all the setup is quite amazingly executed... the mass psychology being leveraged is top notch. I say this in an admiring way, not a cynical one, but only because this is an entertainment product
to the frame, Captain America doesn't seem to want to take orders, which does strike me as thoroughly against his worldview, so I'm curious to see how they play this..
"we'll do it together, unless they tell me not to do something, in which case, I will disobey... for the team" #what
LegendofLex
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Isn't it really more him acknowledging that the massive responsibility placed on their shoulders means the stakes when any one of them fucks up are insurmountably huge?
The comic story aside, there's nothing about Tony's behavior the entire MCU besides the ending of AoU that suggests to me he would be pro-registration. He acted on his on in Iron Man 1-3, Avengers and AoU. But suddenly he's all responsible and feels bad about prior disasters the team has been involved in because the story dictates it.
As far as I've seen, Tony and Steve should be on the same page. We're playing into the "Tony is an asshole" angle because he is so in the comics. I'm not buying it. Both Tony and Steve have the same amount of dirt on their hands in the MCU. Yeah, there's apparently
along with Thunderbolt Ross, but Tony has seen and lived worse. A couple of appeals to his emotions shouldn't be able to sway him.
There's always a bunch of people that take it too far.
As far as I've seen, Tony and Steve should be on the same page. We're playing into the "Tony is an asshole" angle because he is so in the comics. I'm not buying it. Both Tony and Steve have the same amount of dirt on their hands in the MCU. Yeah, there's apparently
that one lady that tries to guilt trip him because of her son
There's always a bunch of people that take it too far.
QuantumZebra
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Government: Trust us, Steve. Trust our judgement.
Steve: Uh...
General Ross: Trust me, Steve. Trust my judgement.
Steve: Uh...
Tony: Trust me, Steve. Trust my judgement.
Steve: Uh...
Well that wraps it up right there
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