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[Ashodin]

Ok, so is it fair to say you WANT (not predict) the result to be 51-49, but your predict it will be worse for Sanders.

I mean, we can discuss the semantics of the word "prediction", but as far as I remember, its definition is entirely based on a possibility of what will happen. It may not happen.

 

[B-Dubs]

I don't understand why Hillary can't nip the transcript bullshit in the bud.

It's a matter of calling it what it is: a cheap ploy to distract people from the real issues. Bernie has no message here, it's just a bunch of winks and elbow nudges from his camp as they repeat "I bet there's SOMETHING interesting there! Eh?? Eh?!" over and over with no substance whatsoever. "Why not just release them??" because, as with any nonsense talking point, engaging in the conversation and doing what they want you to do automatically has them win, regardless of whether or not you were ultimately in the right.

It's as easy as that, and Hillary should twist the knife where it's appropriate; it's a clear attempt at taking a page from the GOP book and start distracting people from the real issues, and that she wouldn't be dragged down with her by engaging in a conversation as meaningless as what is in those transcripts.

Her trying to justify it by saying some generic platitude about how she totes for realz "stood up to Wall Street" is just walking right into Bernie's talking point about how her "standing up" didn't do anything in the long run.

She's gotta win his supporters over after this is all said and done. If she was able to go scorched earth on him this would have ended months ago. Her campaign had that Castro thing long before anyone else and sat on it. Shit, her opposition research people found Obama's grade school homework. You think they aren't sitting on a mountain of shit against him? There's articles out there that have Bernie railing against charity at a charity benefit. She's gotta keep the gloves on and not hit too hard, that's how it is.

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

OMG CNN Stop the Inquisition!

Bernie has a plane to catch for his make believe meeting with the Pope.

yas queeeeeen fuck Sanders more like Blanders amirite lmao #onfleek

 

[Mr. RPG]

See you all on April 19th!

 

[eBay Huckster]

Okay I'm wrong, Ashodin is clearly the love child of Dean Chambers and Tyler what's his face

 

[BigJonsson]

I have no doubt that Hillary will win NY but in what world is it fair that you need to register as a democrat by October there to vote....how isn't that voter suppression?

Because that is what most political parties do when they hold elections around the world.....

He could just run as an independent, but he wanted the Democrat party machine behind him

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

OMG CNN Stop the Inquisition!

Bernie has a plane to catch for his make believe meeting with the Pope.

I know you're making a joke, but I'm actually kinda surprised that the media isn't doing more coverage of the fact that he's not meeting the Pope and wasn't actually invited. In fact, the media is reporting the exact opposite (at least the mainstream television media, from what I've seen).

Of course, it is the American news media so I don't know why I'm shocked they're not doing their job.

 

[Ashodin]

So basically- feelings. Because the Marist poll is the polar opposite of all the bullshit I just read.

It's good to see you come around to my original point.

 

[Maxim726X]

It's good to see you come around to my original point.

I... What?

 

[MThanded]

Y'all need to let ashodin cook

Lit

 

[gutter_trash]

I have no doubt that Hillary will win NY but in what world is it fair that you need to register as a democrat by October there to vote....how isn't that voter suppression?

hahahahahahaha

if you were not registered as Democrat 5 months ago, than you are not really a Democrat, are you?

 

[EatinOlives]

She's gotta win his supporters over after this is all said and done. If she was able to go scorched earth on him this would have ended months ago. Her campaign had that Castro thing long before anyone else and sat on it. Shit, her opposition research people found Obama's grade school homework. You think they aren't sitting on a mountain of shit against him? There's articles out there that have Bernie railing against charity at a charity benefit. She's gotta keep the gloves on and not hit too hard, that's how it is.

I would imagine so, but I think the bigger issue is that there's simply too much shit being flung at her and without much fighting back she won't have a good image when the GE kicks off.

The transcript thing is low-hanging fruit. Because it isn't really a message about anything, I don't see much harm in attacking it without going scorched-earth. Simply pointing out how meaningless it is and how Sanders did promise he'd run on an issues-only campaign should be a sobering reminder to his supporters to not lose the plot.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

It's good to see you come around to my original point.

I... What?

This exchange made me laugh.

 

[BigJonsson]

hahahahahahaha

If only they knew how political parties in Canada ran things lol

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Captain America was right

 

[Ashodin]

I... What?

I mean, I'd explain it again, but I've already done so three times.

This is about where I go from these threads anyway. I had a great time watching the debate, and my candidate had in my opinion a strong showing despite some stumblings that left me scratching my head.

 

[eBay Huckster]

If only they knew how political parties in Canada ran things lol

Or literally any other Western democracy, for that matter.

From the perspective of any other country's actual systems, open primaries are quaint little American bullshit.

 

[Prodigal Son]

lol why is the handshake thing trending

 

[B-Dubs]

I would imagine so, but I think the bigger issue is that there's simply too much shit being flung at her and without much fighting back she won't have a good image when the GE kicks off.

The transcript thing is low-hanging fruit. Because it isn't really a message about anything, I don't see much harm in attacking it without going scorched-earth. Simply pointing out how meaningless it is and how Sanders did promise he'd run on an issues-only campaign should be a sobering reminder to his supporters to not lose the plot.

Fact is she just has to take it until she wins NY and then there's going to be insane pressure on Bernie to drop out. He really needs to tone down the personal attacks at this point.

 

[Suikoguy]

I mean, I'd explain it again, but I've already done so three times.

Then you need to get better at explaining.

 

[MIMIC]

Hillary didn't make a joke at black peoples expense. It wasn't her line or her skit.

Independent on how you spin it still think that's less toxic than implying southern blacks don't know what's good for them.

What is this "it wasn't her line" nonsense? You thought she was saving the joke when in actuality she was just being playful with it. Does CP time actually mean "cautious politician time?" No, it means "black people are fucking late for everything." Please stop.

And how exactly did Bernie imply that southern blacks don't know what's good for him by saying "We lost the deep South" (or whatever he said)?

 

[gutter_trash]

If only they knew how political parties in Canada ran things lol

some even skip the Leadership Convention and get coronations

 

[Suikoguy]

And how exactly did Bernie imply that southern blacks don't know what's good for him by saying "We lost the deep South" (or whatever he said)?

Oh come on, if you are going to talk about it, at least know what he said. Sad!

 

[Maxim726X]

Then you need to get better at explaining.

I feel like I'm in a Leslie Nielson movie and no one told me.

 

[norm9]

Fact is she just has to take it until she wins NY and then there's going to be insane pressure on Bernie to drop out. He really needs to tone down the personal attacks at this point.

She also needs to hold the attacks until the general election. You stay away from the mud slinging until there's only one opponent left.

 

[eBay Huckster]

And how exactly did Bernie imply that southern blacks don't know what's good for him by saying "We lost the deep South" (or whatever he said)?

Maybe he didn't outright say they don't know what's good for them but he sure as shit said the results of the states they vote in greater numbers than any other demographic group "don't reflect reality".

That's some pissbaby shit.

 

[old manatee]

haha they skipped the handshake. so these clowns are less mature than a little league team.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

She also needs to hold the attacks until the general election. You stay away from the mud slinging until there's only one opponent left.

Yeah, they both look pretty dirty because of all the mud-slinging they've been doing, IMO.

And of course, the media is foaming at the mouth now about how "the gloves are off." They've been desperate for the Democratic Primary to become the shitshow that the Republican Primary has been. Gotta drive them ratings up.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

Oh come on, if you are going to talk about it, at least know what he said. Sad!

lol

 

[BigJonsson]

There should be Independent party primaries, no Dems or Republicans allowed to vote!

 

[Suikoguy]

lol

I think we are going to regret Trumpisms in a few months.

 

[K.Sabot]

Yeah, they both look pretty dirty from where I'm sitting. And of course, the media is foaming at the mouth now about how "the gloves are off." They've been desperate for the Democratic Primary to become the shitshow that the Republican Primary has been. Gotta drive them ratings up.

Media companies secretly pro-Democrat.

High ratings = high viewer engagement

high viewer engagement = higher turnout

higher turnout = benefits the Democratic party.

#conspiracy

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

I think we are going to regret Trumpisms in a few months.

are you kidding me, Trump is the only thing not making me completely insane.

If I had to go through the democratic primary and deal with Bernie's shit without knowing Trump is doing his thing I would be a mess.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

There should be Independent party primaries, no Dems or Republicans allowed to vote!

Vermin Supreme 2016!

 

[norm9]

Tuned into Fox News hoping for some post debate analysis. Instead one of the talking heads had her long legs front and center. Not complaining.

 

[Prodigal Son]

I mean, we can discuss the semantics of the word "prediction", but as far as I remember, its definition is entirely based on a possibility of what will happen. It may not happen.

The very implication that you want it to happen upsets people, man. Why try?

 

[MThanded]

What is this "it wasn't her line" nonsense? You thought she was saving the joke when in actuality she was just being playful with it. Does CP time actually mean "cautious politician time?" No, it means "black people are fucking late for everything." Please stop.

And how exactly did Bernie imply that southern blacks don't know what's good for him by saying "We lost the deep South" (or whatever he said)?

1. She didn't make the joke. You keep saying this but it is factually incorrect. Deblasio made the joke.

2. You don't even know what he said.

I'd love to continue discussion this non-issue with you but its way past my bedtime.

 

[Ogrekiller]

There should be Independent party primaries, no Dems or Republicans allowed to vote!

Sure, so long as they're only allowed to vote for the Independent candidate. Also only independent states count (ie: all of them, not just the ones you favor.)

 

[BanGy.nz]

There should be Independent party primaries, no Dems or Republicans allowed to vote!

Jill Stein would actually win something.

 

[GYODX]

Laughing at the people in the early pages making light of the war in Iraq.

I'm glad Americans have decided for the rest of the world that the war in Iraq is no longer relevant. Be sure to tell that to the millions of Iraqis who saw their country go to shit because of a decision Hillary had a literal role in.

 

[Crayons]

I have a few words I hope get banned in 2017

"h*ge"
"s*d"
"l*ser"

Forever tainted. Do not use unless you want to be with the same crowd that still says baby bump, man cave, manspreading, foodie, and hashtag

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

I have a few words I hope get banned in 2017

"h*ge"
"s*d"
"l*ser"

Forever tainted. Do not use unless you want to be with the same crowd that still says baby bump, man cave, manspreading, foodie, and hashtag

Huge mistake of a post. Don't be a sore loser. Sad!

 

[Prodigal Son]

Laughing at the people in the early pages making light of the war in Iraq.

I'm glad Americans have decided for the rest of the world that the war in Iraq is no longer relevant. Be sure to tell that to the millions of Iraqis who saw their country go to shit because of a decision Hillary had a literal role in.

They're making light of it because it's brought up a lot (and rightfully so). It's easy to become numb to legitimate criticism when you've heard so much of it.

Fracking is good for the environment actually, but that answer require a lot more nuance then you seem willing to tolerate.

yo.

o k

 

[Giant Panda]

Anyone who supports fracking is an asshole

Fracking is good for the environment actually, but that answer require a lot more nuance then you seem willing to tolerate.

 

[Crayons]

Huge mistake of a post. Don't be a sore loser. Sad!

triggered

Fracking is good for the environment actually, but that answer require a lot more nuance then you seem willing to tolerate.

Double triggered

 

[AlteredBeast]

Fracking is good for the environment actually, but that answer require a lot more nuance then you seem willing to tolerate.

I am genuinely interested in your explanation here.

 

[JHoNNy1OoO]

CNN with that dialup connection.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

Laughing at the people in the early pages making light of the war in Iraq.

I'm glad Americans have decided for the rest of the world that the war in Iraq is no longer relevant. Be sure to tell that to the millions of Iraqis who saw their country go to shit because of a decision Hillary had a literal role in.

Her vote was based on the best information they had at the time and something she has repeatedly admitted to being wrong about and apologized for.

Blaming her for every negative consequence that happened as a result of her vote to authorize the use of force (which was misused by GWB) is like blaming Sanders for every wrong and racially motivated imprisonment that happened as a result of his vote for the 1994 crime bill.

 

[eBay Huckster]

Or like blaming him for the imposition of the Libyan no-fly zone that the 2011 joint resolution he co-sponsored called for as a potential course of action.

 

[Ogrekiller]

Her vote was based on the best information they had at the time and something she has repeatedly admitted to being wrong about and apologized for.

Blaming her for every negative consequence the happened as a result of her vote to authorize the use of force (which was misused by GWB) is like blaming Sanders for every wrong and racially motivated imprisonment that happened as a result of his vote for the 1994 crime bill.

When millions of Iraqis in Iraq are barred from voting in the remaining primaries the full extent of the diabolical voter suppression by Clinton will be revealed.