BvS is going down for sure, but I dont blame it, a new IP like it cant never beat a huge IP like ZootopiaBOM estimates are up. Zootopia may beat BvS this weekend with strong Sat/Sun.
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Gordon Shumway
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Come on, man..lol.
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With that much better Zootopia figure, that basically locks it up to top BvS. Civil War and Rogue One are virtual locks to beat it too, so the best BvS can hope for is to finish at #5 for the year domestically. I think it's almost a lock that Finding Dory will do 330+, Jungle Book could go over that mark too if WOM is strong enough, and there's a number of other films this year with big time potential.
It'll be very interesting to see how low BvS ends up on the charts.
It'll be very interesting to see how low BvS ends up on the charts.
Damn. Quite the increase there.
broncobuster
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Don't know about Doctor Strange hitting that, but Suicide Squad might end up being the higher grossing DC film this year. Which is nuts in its own way.
Gordon Shumway
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Agreed with all of this. I'm really looking forward to SS..
AmaterasuOni
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I hope Doc Strange is a good movie, at least it has great cast. It breaks the normal Marvel mold quite nicely. I also think Suicide Squad will beat BvS easily. It at least looks fun and everyone loves a good baddie and this movie has many of them (also Harley and Joker).
Ant-man numbers seem way more likely. Also, isn't BvS ahead of GotG's final gross?
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WW yes, Domestic no and chances are it will miss it.
I like Cucumberpants but from that first trailer (or teaser or whatever it was) it doesn't look like an easy sell.
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The Fannibals will drive Doctor Strange to a monster gross.
The teaser created more chatter online than the new Fantastic Beasts trailer, doubled its views on youtube as well. The sell is acid trip Marvel, with that Marvel logo front and center, while coming off the heels of what looks like a Monster in Civil War.
But at the end of the day it will come down to the quality, if it reviews strong and Strange delivers on the promise of mind bending visuals there is really no telling how big that thing could be.
Edit: Hell the premise alone, confirmed by that teaser, lends itself heavily to the opinion "You HAVE to watch this thing in 3D".
I think Inception-like numbers are the ceiling which would put it neck and neck with BvS
I'm expecting a little better than Ant-Man though
AmaterasuOni
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Inception is a new IP though. Doc Strange is well known.
I wouldn't call it well known even if it is an existing property.
I figure Nolan and Leo gave Inception significant gravitas and star power equivalent to the strength of the Marvel branding
I think there's a chance that BvS (and just a little chance) that BvS doesn't even finish in the top 10 domestically this year let alone the top 5.
Not really.
And Inception was Nolan's first film after The Dark Knight. It got a lot of buzz just from that despite being new. Having one of the most famous actors ever starring in it didn't hurt either.
BOM estimates are up. Zootopia may beat BvS this weekend with strong Sat/Sun.
That Friday bump, holy crap. Zootopia typically has huge jumps on Saturdays, so it should top BvS for the weekend. I didn't expect that given the tracking during the week; we should have crossover today. Freaking Jungle Book opens and it's still only down 39% week over week.
Yeowch.
Obliterator
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Big time. It's got Cumberbatch and is going to grab the Nolan / Matrix / Inception crowds
It's gonna be a big surprise break out success
Gordon Shumway
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Is it? By who..nerds? Because even then, not really.
Who is Doc Strange? Is he related to Doc Ock?
98% of people have no idea who the fuck is Dr. Strange.
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I feel like a lot of posts about Dr Strange box office are going to look a lot like Guardians.
I'm not sure how you can watch that trailer and think it's a hard sell. No way, it's gonna blow up.
I'm not sure how you can watch that trailer and think it's a hard sell. No way, it's gonna blow up.
Only if the buzz is actually good.
And 99.9% of even hardcore comics fans had no idea who the fuck the Guardians of the Galaxy were.
Dash_Riprock
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Cause you know EVERYONE knew who Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man were...
I honestly don't think the issue with Marvel films at this point is even about whether they are "hard sells" or whether the characters are "well known". Those are irrelevant. The brand has so much awareness now and the marketing is so strong that they can sell pretty much anything. The only question is whether people will like it enough to keep driving business after the first sell.
So ultimately it's not even a question of whether the movie will be -good-, but rather whether the mainstream audience -likes- it enough to keep talking about it. It being good helps, it being likeable helps more. It's not a given though, because regardless of what some people think, Marvel is not infallible and can still make duds or bet one the wrong directors. Especially since they like trying untested ones.
So ultimately it's not even a question of whether the movie will be -good-, but rather whether the mainstream audience -likes- it enough to keep talking about it. It being good helps, it being likeable helps more. It's not a given though, because regardless of what some people think, Marvel is not infallible and can still make duds or bet one the wrong directors. Especially since they like trying untested ones.
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Yep certainly. If it's a bad movie it won't do much but as long as Marvel delivers a decent film it should be able to do at least 225 domestic
Well said.
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All metrics right now though point to Strange doing well, from Twitter mentions to YouTube views. It's still early but as of now it's looking good for them
So Marvel Studios is basically 2000's era Pixar.
Disagree, I don't think that has much to do with originality (for the most part), and everything to do with the Internet/social media and age.
Bring the internet back to the 90's dark ages, turn into a 12 year old, and walk into the theater watching these films....
Nah. Pixar is doing original movies. Marvel is just bringing comic book movies to the big screen. Pixar is much more creative and making it up as they go along. Hit or miss.
I don't think anyone is saying Doctor Strange will bomb or anything. Just that someone posted above they can see it beating BvS money wise which I think is unlikely unless the film is amazing and audiences love it. That's certainly possible but not guaranteed.
Dash_Riprock
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They've been missing a lot lately, barring Inside Out.
And that's fine. When they hit it's big and refreshingly original. That's important.
I don't know if I'd say "wowed," but I thought Inside Out was great.
I enjoyed Inside Out but I found it visually lacking
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