April U.S. Primaries |OT| Vote in 20 Turns for World Leader

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legacyzero said:
Maybe to have the chance to win over somebody from the other side? It aint impossible. But if somebody is locked down A HALF YEAR before the votes even go down, and for some reason wants to vote more sensibly, they cant.

My aunt is Republican, and thinks the offering in that party so far is liquid shit, and refused to vote for any of them. My suggestion was to consider Hilary who I view as more center, and closer to her views than say Bernie.

If she lived in New York, she'd be screwed.
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She will be able to make that choice in the general election. This is for Democrats to choose who represents their party. I don't see a problem with this. Having said that, an October cutoff is pretty silly and should have been sometime this year.
 
Outdoor Miner said:
She will be able to make that choice in the general election. This is for Democrats to choose who represents their party. I don't see a problem with this. Having said that, an October cutoff is pretty silly and should have been sometime this year.
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Not being able to have a say in even that process is not cool
 
Outdoor Miner said:
She will be able to make that choice in the general election. This is for Democrats to choose who represents their party. I don't see a problem with this. Having said that, an October cutoff is pretty silly and should have been sometime this year.
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Who pays for the Democrats/Republicans Primaries - I was under the impression that it's entirely tax payer funded?
This is not rocket science - if the people pay for the primaries to be held than obviously any person no matter the party identification should be able to vote. State Holidays should be held on Primary days, Federal Holiday for the GE and automatic voter registration for all with Open/Semi-Open primaries.
 
Just voted, as did my wife who hasn't voted in like ten years (back when there were frigging voting booths instead of the scantrons they use now).

We live in a small town, but the place was pretty packed, at least 50 people. They said more people have come to vote in the primary already then did the last one in my town, which is impressive.
 
Las7 said:
Who pays for the Democrats/Republicans Primaries - I was under the impression that it's entirely tax payer funded?
This is not rocket science - if the people pay for the primaries to be held than obviously any person no matter the party identification should be able to vote. State Holidays should be held on Primary days, Federal Holiday for the GE and automatic voter registration for all with Open/Semi-Open primaries.
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I believe the local party pays for it with some help from the national party, hence why some states choose caucuses - they are cheaper.
 
I'm losing hope when my ridiculous hyperbole is actually a genuine opinion of some posters.

o wel

On a side note: All laws or rules that lower voter turnout aren't a good thing. Caucuses are bad. Closed primaries are bad. Voter ID requirements are bad. If your rule makes people less likely to vote, it isn't a good thing.
 
Prodigal Son said:
I'm losing hope when my ridiculous hyperbole is actually a genuine opinion of some posters.

o wel

On a side note: All laws or rules that lower voter turnout aren't a good thing. Caucuses are bad. Closed primaries are bad. Voter ID requirements are bad. If your rule makes people less likely to vote, it isn't a good thing.
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I agree, though would also say that I think there are legitimate reasons for Republicans not to vote in Democratic primaries or the opposite, so maybe semi-open is better.
 
ivysaur12 said:
I agree, though would also say that I think there are legitimate reasons for Republicans not to vote in Democratic primaries or the opposite, so maybe semi-open is better.
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That's also a good point.

EDIT: Caucuses especially need to die ASAP. How that shit made it into the 21st century is beyond me.

Let's get some online voting going while we're at it.
 
ivysaur12 said:
I agree, though would also say that I think there are legitimate reasons for Republicans not to vote in Democratic primaries or the opposite, so maybe semi-open is better.
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however:

Jamelle Bouie ‏@jbouie 13m13 minutes ago
One reason I am unsympathetic to self-described "independents" is because they tend to be reliable partisan voters on either side.
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Jamelle Bouie ‏@jbouie 17m17 minutes ago
We are looking at people who are partisans, but just don't want to have to say they're on one side or another.
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Jamelle Bouie ‏@jbouie 18m18 minutes ago
So we're not looking at people who are independent *in practice*...
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So Indies ARE able to vote for this Primary now?

Election Justice USA tells Independent voters to cast provisional ballots

By provisional ballots?

"We are encouraging all independent and disenfranchised voters to VOTE tomorrow by provisional ballot," Nelson said. "They should tell poll workers that there is a motion pending in Federal District Court to declare the Primary open, and they are casting their vote in the expectation of a favorable ruling by the judge tomorrow."
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Sounds risky LOL
 
ivysaur12 said:
It's probably healthier for the party in the long term to get people who aren't associated with the party but might gravitate towards those types of candidates to have a say.

I don't think that Republicans should be able to vote in Democratic primaries or Democrats in Republican primaries.
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If you block D/R in R/D, but allow I in all, it just encourages everyone to be I.
We are looking at people who are partisans, but just don't want to have to say they're on one side or another.
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This is why "Independents" lean conservative by a significant degree- they don't want social backlash from their views.
 
legacyzero said:
So Indies ARE able to vote for this Primary now?

Election Justice USA tells Independent voters to cast provisional ballots

By provisional ballots?

Sounds risky LOL
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It's especially risky because
If, after such deficiencies have been so indicated, the applicant shall persist in his claim to vote, an inspector shall administer to him the following oath, which shall be known as ‘‘The Qualification Oath’’: ‘‘You do swear (or affirm) that you are eighteen years of age, that you are a citizen of the United States and that you have been a resident of this state, and of this county (of the city of New York) (village) for thirty days next preceding this election, that you still reside at the same address from which you have been duly registered in this election district, that you have not voted at this election, and that you do not know of any reason why you are not qualified to vote at this election. You do further declare that you are aware that it is a crime to make any false statement. That all the statements you have made to the board have been true and that you under­stand that a false statement is perjury and you will be guilty of a misdemeanor.’’
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lying about being able to vote is a crime and filling out a provisional ballot means you agree to the above terms.
 
Macho Madness said:
It's especially risky because


lying about being able to vote is a crime and filling out a provisional ballot means you agree to the above terms.
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It'd be fraud if you said you're a democrat when you aren't. They're encouraging people to leave that section blank. Hopefully nobody is committing fraud.

Edit: Has there been a ruling on all this yet??? It was supposed to happen at noon then it got moved to I think 2PM...
 
Inspector Jones said:
Some of us aren't very strong democrats or identify as independent anyway; I'm not beholden to vote for anyone just because of party loyalty.
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Let's say Sanders wins, how would he be able to get any element of his platform through a Republican Congress?

It's not about party loyalty as much as it is about recognizing reality.
 
so when he wins in Caucuseusussu with narrow limited time to vote, he doesn't complain.
But then when he loses in Closed Primaries because woooo only registered Democrats can vote in a primary of the same party name.. then he cries and moans.

tears
 
gutter_trash said:
so when he wins in Caucuseusussu with narrow limited time to vote, he doesn't complain.
But then when he loses in Closed Primaries because woooo only registered Democrats can vote in a primary of the same party name.. then he cries and moans.

tears
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If people haven't figured out that Sanders is a two faced sack of shit by now they never will.
 
Dash_Riprock said:
Lets not go nuts. He's no better or worse than Hillary as a politician.

He's just not the paragon of honesty and integrity his fanbase makes him to be.
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I personally view "politician" and "two faced sack of shit" as a near perfect synonym.

It is the only logical conclusion, I'm just not willing to exclude Sanders from the group because he claims he's "anti-establishment" despite him being a career politician.
 
There's a Bernie Rally at my school today and don't even really care to go because I know it'll be the same speech as always. Went home to eat instead.

And I consider myself leaning Bernie for sure. It's pretty sad.
 
ivysaur12 said:
I mean ideally we would have an app with push notifications that it's election day!
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Not a really push notification, but Google Now has had the fact that it is primary day for awhile. Today, it showed a link to check if you are registered to vote and where to find your polling location.
 
meh... might not be able to get out to vote today. Polling place is just out of walking distance, and doesn't seem like I'll be able to get a ride.

-1 Hillary

If Hillary loses my county by one vote, I'll actually find it kind of funny.
 
Brainfreeze said:
There's a Bernie Rally at my school today and don't even really care to go because I know it'll be the same speech as always. Went home to eat instead.

And I consider myself leaning Bernie for sure. It's pretty sad.
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Should have gone. Him talking about his policy positions in each speech isn't 'the same speech'. His rally speeches vary quite a bit and Bernie's a charmer (imo).

Unless you're going there to get new information, it's a fun time what with excited crowds. His rallies are actually pretty hype.


balladofwindfishes said:
meh... might not be able to get out to vote today. Polling place is just out of walking distance, and doesn't seem like I'll be able to get a ride.

-1 Hillary

If Hillary loses my county by one vote, I'll actually find it kind of funny.
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Go vote, dude.
 
balladofwindfishes said:
meh... might not be able to get out to vote today. Polling place is just out of walking distance, and doesn't seem like I'll be able to get a ride.

-1 Hillary

If Hillary loses my county by one vote, I'll actually find it kind of funny.
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If you contact her local campaign they should be able to help with that. People who can't make it to the polls are routinely bussed there.
 
balladofwindfishes said:
meh... might not be able to get out to vote today. Polling place is just out of walking distance, and doesn't seem like I'll be able to get a ride.

-1 Hillary

If Hillary loses my county by one vote, I'll actually find it kind of funny.
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Aren't the delegates proportional in New York anyway? I don't think you can "lose" let alone lose by one vote. Just doing my bit to encourage voter apathy.
 
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