April U.S. Primaries |OT| Vote in 20 Turns for World Leader

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One of the top posts right now is something like "before yesterday we needed 56% of the remaining delegates, now we only need 58%!"

There is a guy on there saying

Clinton had 10.5% of the delegates and now she only has 10.7%? Lol no big deal guys!

You can't write this shit
 
Considering that the Young Turks were the leaders of Turkey during the Armenian Genocide, and his site/channel/whatever is named for them, this seems unlikely...

The name of the show has always been my #1 reason for never wanting to watch them. There is no acceptable reason to use THAT for your name, not with what the namesakes did to one of their countries' largest minorities!
The Young Turks movement was split up in 2 sides though, one did participate in the genocide and the other did not iirc
 
Basically we can say today that the United States has its first woman president. It's a pretty big deal that got lost in this circus.
 
Cenk's position on the Armenian genocide hasn't publicly changed as far as I'm aware. Of course, since I imagine he still has ties to family in Turkey and it's a crime to mention the Armenian genocide there, I doubt he'd ever actually admit changing his position in public.
 
Cenk's position on the Armenian genocide hasn't publicly changed as far as I'm aware. Of course, since I imagine he still has ties to family in Turkey and it's a crime to mention the Armenian genocide there, I doubt he'd ever actually admit changing his position in public.

During his last AMA he ignored EVERY Armenia question asked of him.
 
I'm a Bernie guy, but I'll definitely vote for Hillary if she's the nom.

This is what has lost me about some Bernie supporters. Iirc, Bernie himself has pointed out in debates that Hillary is loads better than any Republican candidate, yet certain Bernie supporters seem adamant about equivocating Hillary with the GOP opposition. Why??

Because the vitriol has gotten more intense over the last few weeks... He can't win the election, so I hope that he realizes the potential damage he can do and just sticks to regurgitating his 3 talking points then walking away. I've had more than my fill of Sanders at this point.
 
Well, look on the plus side, America. You may not get Sanders, but Hillary is a much better president than Cameron as our Prime Minister.

We have fucking Cameron and Osbourne. You can't sink any lower than us!
 
Potentially, but it's best not to count chickens before they hatch. As they say, "don't get cocky, kid".

Well she's going to beat Sanders, and the GOP 2016 presidential race is pretty much a bust at this point.

It would take a pretty big event to prevent her from winning this election.
 
Basically we can say today that the United States has its first woman president. It's a pretty big deal that got lost in this circus.

It's a big deal, but if she fucks up, then she's going to set back future female candidates.

Margaret Thatcher was our first female prime minister, but some of her decisions ended up fucking the Working Class.
 
It's a big deal, but if she fucks up, then she's going to set back future female candidates.

Margaret Thatcher was our first female prime minister, but some of her decisions ended up fucking the Working Class.
People who point to Hillary or Obama as reasons to not vote for future women or minority candidates had no intention for voting for them anyway.

Stop thinking they were potential allies. They are just diet racists and diet sexists trying to hold some imaginary line. No one does that for white men.

'Hitler and Nixon really turned me off. I'll try a white guy next time.'
 
Whats this talking about purged votes?

Cnn is reporting purged votes and de blasio is asking the election committee to count them.
 
It's a big deal, but if she fucks up, then she's going to set back future female candidates.

It is infuriating that this thought exist first world nations. Americans can't get beyond sexism and racism in the supposed most freedom loving country in the world. How the hell can we embrace European style socialism when many believe 50%+ of the population is not worthy of the same rights as men?

(I'm not lashing out at you, just commenting on your comment of a very real world sediment. :) )
 
Sanders got biznanked in New York, it is so beyond over that it's sad now. At least his supporters can stop pretending now since there is literally no shot failing Hillary Clinton dying in a fire.

Good try, Sanders.
 
He was an anti-abortion, anti-gay conservative when this was published, but has since evolved on these positions, hopefully on acknowledging the Armenian genocide too.

Even when he changed his positions to more liberal ones 10 years ago, he was hugely transphobic, but has also now evolved in that view too.

With all the policy evolution he's done, you'd think he'd be a bigger Hillary Clinton fan...

Edit: It seems this observation has been made 10,000 times here already. That'll teach me to post without reading ahead.
 
Why would Clinton target white independents?

To paraphrase Sun Tzu, don't attack where your enemy is strong, attack where he's weak. Julian Castro has been floated as one of the more likely VO picks to target Hispanics.

That's absurd, because there's little risk of Hispanic voters flocking to Trump or Cruz. If Trump is the nominee, Hispanic turnout on the Democrats' side will be high regardless.

A year ago I would have been convinced that Castro would be her VP pick, but that was based on the assumption that she'd be battling Jeb Bush or Rubio for the White House.
 
Sanders got biznanked in New York, it is so beyond over that it's sad now. At least his supporters can stop pretending now since there is literally no shot failing Hillary Clinton dying in a fire.

Good try, Sanders.

There is something weird going on with his supporters math too. They say he only needs 59% of the remaining delegates, but that includes superdelegates right? Meaning that he actually needs way more than 59% of the remaining votes, which is the number implied, to win the nomination. (and I am not American so I am not 100% sure)
 
Ugh, so much negatively towards Bernie around here these days. I don't care what anybody says, I LOVE his vision for the country so he has my vote next week.
 
Sanders got biznanked in New York, it is so beyond over that it's sad now. At least his supporters can stop pretending now since there is literally no shot failing Hillary Clinton dying in a fire.

Good try, Sanders.
Why do you say this like sanders is a bad guy?
 
Interesting that Weaver said last night they would look at next week's results and then assess where the campaign is after that. Is that the closest the Sanders camp has come to concession speak?

Ugh, so much negatively towards Bernie around here these days. I don't care what anybody says, I LOVE his vision for the country so he has my vote next week.

A lot of non-Bernie voting people love his vision, too. They just don't love his unrealistic or unexplained ways for getting there, or the lack of down ticket support that would actually enable and preserve that vision.
 
Ugh, so much negatively towards Bernie around here these days. I don't care what anybody says, I LOVE his vision for the country so he has my vote next week.
I think this is one of the major disconnects with a fair amount of Bernie supporters. I love his vision too. But I have no faith in him being able to do anything meaningful to move us there.
 
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This will never not be funny to me.
 
I think this is one of the major disconnects with a fair amount of Bernie supporters. I love his vision too. But I have no faith in him being able to do anything meaningful to move us there.

Was just gonna post something similar.

Also, his lack of support for downticket Democrats is extremely disappointing.
 
Whats this talking about purged votes?

Cnn is reporting purged votes and de blasio is asking the election committee to count them.
Every county scrubs voter rolls after few months: people moving in, moving out, deaths, births, etc. Brooklyn fell way behind in scrubbing its rolls and did it all in one take, resulting in that big number. However DeBlasio wants to confirm if this is what really happened.
 
Ugh, so much negatively towards Bernie around here these days. I don't care what anybody says, I LOVE his vision for the country so he has my vote next week.

He had no vision. That is where the negativity comes from. Free healthcare and free tuition aren't things Bernie dreamed up and brought down from the mountaintop to share with all of us. Those ideas have been around for far longer than Sanders. His proposals on how to achieve them are what mattered. They were entirely too vague on the specifics that constitute good policy, like basically everything else Sanders has ever proposed.

He's an idea guy peddling preexisting ideas with nothing new of merit attached to them, but doing so at a time when there is a large subset of the American populous who so fundamentally misunderstand their own government as to think his ideas are 1. new and 2. not completely impossible in their proposed execution.
 
Yup pretty much why I don't vote for white men. Reagan really fucked that up for future white men.

Except of course, that white men are the majority in power. So what I'm saying is that if she doesn't leave behind a good legacy or worse, have a terrible legacy, it can set women back. I'm not saying or supporting that women make bad political leaders, but Margaret Thatcher is an example of one that left behind a terrible legacy that screwed over the working class and made some questionable calls regarding Falklands, giving the perception of 'females making bad leaderships'.

I know it's a different time now, but everyone going to judge the first president of a kind and honestly, I wouldn't want Hillary Clinton to be the first representative for female presidency. But I rather have her over Trump anyway, so fuck it.
 
He had no vision. That is where the negativity comes from. Free healthcare and free tuition aren't things Bernie dreamed up and brought down from the mountaintop to share with all of us. Those ideas have been around for far longer than Sanders. His proposals on how to achieve them are what mattered. They were entirely too vague on the specifics that constitute good policy, like basically everything else Sanders has ever proposed.

He's an idea guy peddling preexisting ideas with nothing new of merit attached to them, but doing so at a time when there is a large subset of the American populous who so fundamentally misunderstand their own government as to think his ideas are 1. new and 2. not completely impossible in their proposed execution.

I guess you could say his vague proposals were drek.
 
Whats this talking about purged votes?

Cnn is reporting purged votes and de blasio is asking the election committee to count them.
I looked up that article, and it's probably not nearly as big of a deal as people think it is.

The Board of Elections purges the voter registration lists every year of people who did not vote in 2 consecutive Federal Elections.

The conditions are if you have not voted in 2 consecutive Federal Elections, you will be purged from voter registration lists after the fifth year.

What that means is if you registered and voted in 2008, you have to vote in 2010 or 2012 to not be purged in 2013. If you voted in 2010, you have to vote in 2012 or 2014 to not be purged in 2015.
 
Except of course, that white men are the majority in power. So what I'm saying is that if she doesn't leave behind a good legacy or worse, have a terrible legacy, it can set women back. I'm not saying or supporting that women make bad political leaders, but Margaret Thatcher is an example of one that left behind a terrible legacy that screwed over the working class and made some questionable calls regarding Falklands, giving the perception of 'females making bad leaderships'.

I know it's a different time now, but everyone going to judge the first president of a kind and honestly, I wouldn't want Hillary Clinton to be the first representative for female presidency. But I rather have her over Trump anyway, so fuck it.
If you refuse to vote for another woman due to Thatcher, you are a sexist piece of shit.

We all hear your reasoning and it overemphasizes the logical nature of sexists. No, 'setting back women' is just a sexist's way of explaining their nature.
 
If you refuse to vote for another woman due to Thatcher, you are a sexist piece of shit.

I make my vote based on how much their views align with mine. I'm just explaining that western nations is still sexist towards female political leaders and people in the UK still use Margaret Thatcher as an example.

We all hear your reasoning and it overemphasizes the logical nature of sexists. No, 'setting back women' is just a sexist's way of explaining their nature.

I'm explaining their thought process, not justifying it dear.

I just think of Hillary as a necessary evil at this point now and I still feel people should swallow their pride and vote for her in the swing states.
 
But like, how is that exclusive to /r/ poliics? That's reddit. If I were to start Bernie-ing on /r/Hillary do you not think the exact same thing would happen? If you don't, you're quite literally delusional.
 
If I were to start Bernie-ing on /r/Hillary do you not think the exact same thing would happen?

depends. are you gonna go in acting like a hostile dick with a persecution complex? because those are the only comments i ever consistently see getting downvoted on there, but also there's a lot of them
 
Sanders showed no class when he stepped out of the airplane in Burlington and started speaking to the press at the same time that Hillary was already speaking in progress.

i was watching the local feed from Plattsburgh/ Burlington and they cut away from her speech to listen to his salt spillage.

IMO sit in the plane. wait your turn, then talk

Hillary in her speech was gracious and inclussive
 
depends. are you gonna go in acting like a hostile dick with a persecution complex?

Maybe you're more likely to consider someone a 'dick' if they're saying something that starkly contrasts with your own political ideals? I dunno, that seems pretty likely to me.

I just think its funny that NeofuckingGAF of all places is waving its finger at reddit for being anti-freedom of expression. I mean, really? Reddit? Lolwhat?

You express yourself in how you vote too. An upvote shows support, a downvote shows critique. That's part of expression. At the end of the day I can still post too, even if people disagree with that as well. On the other hand, here, we literally take away people's ability to continue the discourse on the entire website if we don't like what they're saying. Don't get me wrong. It's done for good reason and contributes, for the most part, to a better atmosphere of discourse. But let's not fool ourselves into thinkings ours is the high-road of freedom.
 
Is there a greatest hits compilation of TYT fuckery?

Because I really don't think people realize just how ridiculous they've been this cycle... Laughably so.

Also had the audacity to say that they're impartial an unbiased. That was the funniest line of all.

Maybe you're more likely to consider someone a 'dick' if they're saying something that starkly contrasts with your own political ideals? I dunno, that seems pretty likely to me.

I just think its funny that NeofuckingGAF of all places is waving its finger at reddit for being anti-freedom of expression. I mean, really? Reddit? Lolwhat?

You express yourself in how you vote too. An upvote shows support, a downvote shows critique. That's part of expression. On the other hand, here, we literally take away people's ability to continue the discourse if we don't like what they're saying. Don't get me wrong. It's done for good reason and contributes, for the most part, to a better atmosphere of discourse. But let's not fool ourselves into thinkings ours is the high-road of freedom.

Yes, and Reddit has become a hivemind cesspool incapable of rational discussion. The inevitable flaw in such a system.
 
Maybe you're more likely to consider someone a 'dick' if they're saying something that starkly contrasts with your own political ideals?

maybe you're more likely to handwave away any differences between subreddits & sites so you don't have to admit one side's been demonstrably less willing to consider alternatives, to the point that /r/politics cannot be reasonably described as a multifaceted political discussion board anymore (because all but a certain few types of post gets brigaded to the point that it doesn't even show up)

compare that to here, where most if not all of the bans i've seen in this campaign cycle came from demonstrably being out of line (like that time i told someone to "fuck off" in a heated argument)

just a thought
 
Pft, reddit ain't even that bad right now I dunno what you guys are seeing.

Hillary's speech was really great last night. I hope Bernie keeps in the race just so she has motivations to keep laying out these great victory laps.
 
I make my vote based on how much their views align with mine. I'm just explaining that western nations is still sexist towards female political leaders and people in the UK still use Margaret Thatcher as an example.

I'm explaining their thought process, not justifying it dear.
Sure, valid argument there, but wait:
I just think of Hillary as a necessary evil at this point now and I still feel people should swallow their pride and vote for her in the swing states.
Get the fuck out of here with this shit.
 
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