NX will launch in March 2017 globally, won't be at E3 (focusing on Zelda instead)

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NX and Zelda in 2017 is very disappointing, but if this is what Nintendo needs to do to help NX succeed, then so be it. I guess this will be a year where I make a dent in my backlog.


EDIT: I'm more disappointed that there won't be any new mobile titles until the Fall. I was looking forward to those to give me my new Nintendo fix while I waited for NX and Zelda.

The only thing that can save 2016 for me is Mother 3 on VC.
 
(i didn't get the 'and nothing else' part so many of you are screaming about. the part i saw was 'will be focused on Zelda'. Could be wrong but go ahead, freak out.)
 
Honestly the only thing that should be generating a WTF is Zelda being the only playable game they bring to E3.

Everything else was expected such as the Zelda delay. The 2017 release date for NX was a real possibility we all considered and expected even if we hoped differently. Nintendo having their own event or events outside of E3 for the NX was always possible since they'e done it in the past and Nintendo Directs are versions of that. Directs let them shape their message the way they want. Live audiences aren't important. People need to stop pretending that they are. The coverage is what is important and eyes on the software. Directs do that significantly better then live presentations ever did. Presentations only make the physical trip worthwhile for some people and that's it. What Nintendo is doing is par for the course. They're not doing anything that is really shocking outside of the Zelda only being playable.
 
Missing Christmas is bad.

Wii U being sent to die this Christmas also bad.

If PS4K launches before this, it's really bad.

I am seriously worried for NX. If it isn't a really really strong concept, it's going to sell very little with a March release.

Gutted.
 
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Kind of pissed about Zelda to be honest. They've been parading that game around for years now. I bought my Wii U to play THAT game. WTF NIntendo?! Are there any games at all for your console this holiday? >:|
 
Nintendo has a fucking mega roster of studios and of the 3 Nintendo games coming 2 of them aren't even from 1st party aka Gamefreak and Next Level.

Wtf are all the other studios doing?
 
Holy cow. What a shitty way to end a console's lifecycle. And people say PS4K is a middle finger to fans?
I mean the Wii U is already dead lol

Nintendo has a fucking mega roster of studios and of the 3 Nintendo games coming 2 of them aren't even from 1st party aka Gamefreak and Next Level.

Wtf are all the other studios doing?

They're making sure the NX will succeed from the get go with games. The NX is their future and I'm sure they don't want another Wii U
 
Nintendo Direct is not the same as having E3 presence. And having a Nintendo direct will not have the impact sales wise for preorders E3 does.

Unless they do their own televised press event in December or something for this thing, they are fucking dead.

Oh but it can be with new hardware present! Are we all forgetting that Nintendo was the top trending company of 2014 for their digital event which featured a brand new IP that everyone was raving up all week that E3?

Digital or live conference has little difference so long as it's good and the games are there.

And again, they're going to have an NX event, straight from Kimishima's goddamn mouth and stated by Mochi_wsj just hours ago and Nikkei saying the same thing but going into more specifics that price, launch line-up, specs and more will be discussed there.
 
Ok this is weird Zelda is delayed to 2017? Also NX is coming out in 2017

But the post says no NX at E3 but Zelda will be at E3 lol that makes no sense, wouldnt Zelda be a NX title?

Is this information coming from Nintendo or a other outlets?
 
Nintendo has got to be one of the most unpredictable large companies out there.

NX missing E3, missing holiday 2016, Zelda officially announced for NX and delayed to 2017, Zelda being the only playable game Nintendo will show at E3.

It seems so strange to announce a release month with a launch game for a system that nothing is known about, and won't be disclosed publically until later this year. I'd love to be a fly on the wall during their NX planning; it's clear they've got some kind of a plan, and they're keeping everything very under wraps.

This move makes me both more eager to learn more about the NX, yet more apprehensive that Nintendo is making another console that will continue it's decline in home console hardware.

I'm not sure if these are smart maneuvers for Nintendo, but it will be interesting to watch either way.
 
That's just it! Aside from Pokemon, Zelda, and even Star Fox, everything else coming out this year feels like shovelware.
More like your taste is trash if Monster Hunter Generations, SMT 4-2, Tokyo Mirage Sessions and Rhythm Tengoku look like "shovelware" to you.

Edit:You can't just handwave several games from existance because of some arbitrary restriction you just made up, so they fit your poor argument.

You should look up the definition of the term.
 
Holy cow. What a shitty way to end a console's lifecycle. And people say PS4K is a middle finger to fans?

Nintendo fucking up the NX launch by having it come out too early and without meaningful software support would be a bigger middle finger than their current plans

it sucks but the flip side is worse
 
Ok this is weird Zelda is delayed to 2017? Also NX is coming out in 2017

But the post says no NX at E3 but Zelda will be at E3 lol that makes no sense, wouldnt Zelda be a NX title?

Is this information coming from Nintendo or a other outlets?

Zelda is both a Wii U and NX title. They will be (most likely) talking and showing off the Wii U version at E3.
 
Oh but it can be with new hardware present! Are we all forgetting that Nintendo was the top trending company of 2014 for their digital event which featured a brand new IP that everyone was raving up all week that E3?

Digital or live conference has little difference so long as it's good and the games are there.

And again, they're going to have an NX event, straight from Kimishima's goddamn mouth and stated by Mochi_wsj just hours ago and Nikkei saying the same thing but going into more specifics that price, launch line-up, specs and more will be discussed there.

Unless they invite press to a event like Sony and Microsoft did, a Nintendo Direct wont cut it for it to have the impact you would get at E3 or any other type of expo period.
 
Nintendo fucking up the NX launch by having it come out too early and without meaningful software support would be a bigger middle finger than their current plans

it sucks but the flip side is worse

I get that completely but the fact that there would be no software support at the end of this year is troublesome, given the studios that are "due" for releases soon.
 
I feel like this was a recent decision. From Trev's info a few months back we saw that Zelda was planned for this year. Now it's pushed back to next year with the NX version.

I'm gonna guess something came up with the NX and it delayed the system. Maybe they're making changes to the hardware or something. Plus there's all that e3 space they have, could have been planned for some NX showing but things have changed now. This is just my speculation.

At least there's a decent amount of 3DS titles we'll see.
 
Again: E3 is a few days in June. That leaves 362 days to utilize other methods, like other electronics shows or digital events. E3 is by no means the be-all-end-all and is nowhere near the only place to announce a console.

E3 gets mentioned by other news channels like CNN, Times, etc... Other gaming conventions really don't get a mention. But I could be wrong. But the fact is E3 is the biggest and other outlets definitely monitor it more.
 
Both a launch in March and showing nothing at E3? I don't buy it.

NO way this console makes a March launch if they don't even have anything to show a mere 10 months before the console comes out.
 
Just woke up to all this.

What an absolute shit show. I thought maybe Nintendo had their act together by now. But both NX and Zelda missing holiday shows they're having obvious problems with both.
 
I feel like this was a recent decision. From Trev's info a few months back we saw that Zelda was planned for this year. Now it's pushed back to next year with the NX version.

I'm gonna guess something came up with the NX and it delayed the system. Maybe they're making changes to the hardware or something. Plus there's all that e3 space they have, could have been planned for some NX showing but things have changed now. This is just my speculation.

At least there's a decent amount of 3DS titles we'll see.

What if Nintendo did this to punish us for listening to Trev?
 
I'm curious what the presentation will feature as not a lot of games are currently announced for Nintendo platforms and can't see them announcing new games for the wii u when nx seems to be the focus.
 
E3 gets mentioned by other news channels like CNN, Times, etc... Other gaming conventions really don't get a mention. But I could be wrong. But the fact is E3 is the biggest and other outlets definitely monitor it more.

Nintendo revealing their next system will be reported no matter where they do it. It's news.
 
I figure Nintendo either:

A) Confirmed PS4K and is trying to find out how to properly compete with it. Either by including more powerful specs or by waiting for Sony to fully commit to hardware specs on it so that suddenly Nintendo doesn't look like it's selling a weaker console at a similar price.

B) Not enough 1st and 3rd party games that are committed to the thing for this holiday and needs more committed games before having a holiday season. In other words, avoid a Wii U.
 
I get that completely but the fact that there would be no software support at the end of this year is troublesome, given the studios that are "due" for releases soon.

yeah it's a tough pill to swallow short term but ehhh, Wii U being dead isn't news and 3DS has a decent enough year ahead of it

What if Nintendo did this to punish us for listening to Trev?

going by all the rumors it seems like Nintendo couldn't produce enough consoles for a worldwide launch and decided against a staggered launch. going by this E3 news and Zelda being the only playable game it seems Nintendo was banking on the NX being at E3 and their plans changed when they realized they couldn't launch it worldwide in 2016. so Trev was probably spot on but things have changed since.
 
Well said. Yeah, Nintendo is currently between a rock and a hard place.

I have a feeling that the Wii-U came to be solely because of one idea. 'How about a controller with a touchscreen like the DS'.

That one idea is where they've bet all their money on and not once during development have they reconsidered the idea or asked themselves WHY people would want that on their home console. It proved to be useless and underutilized in 90% of the Wii-U's library and the console has very, very little to offer beside that one gimmick. They were so focused on whether they actually could, they stopped wondering whether they should.

So let's all hope that Nintendo doesn't have this kind of tunnel-vision again with the NX. I can imagine them going crazy with the idea of a modular system or a handheld/base console type structure. But I hope they actually look at the idea critically this time instead of just dropping it on the market acting like it solves a problem that doesn't actually exist in the real world.

I hate to envoke Sean Malstrom, because he's a dick, but I think his writings on Nintendo are incredibly on point, especially his idea that Nintendo has "Arcade DNA" along with Sega, while companies like Sony and Microsoft have "Computer DNA". This manifests itself in design choices and in their games.

Sony and Microsoft rely heavy on games with strong narratives, lots of features, deep gameplay for audiences that would normally be "PC" oriented.

Nintendo historically comes from arcade development and design wise generally focuses on easy to pick up, hard to master style games, games that anyone can basically understand within seconds of playing.

I feel like this is probably where Nintendo can differentiate itself. The Wii felt like a arcade machine, this is why Sean Malstrom postulates it was so successful, because games like Wii sports perfectly capture that ideal of "Game for everyone". I don't think people remember how fucking crazy huge Wii Sports was, me and my friends have probably sunk hundreds upon hundreds of hours into it.

The Wii U appealed to nobody, it didn't appeal to casuals, it didn't appeal to core gamers. It had no vision. It's sort of like modern Zelda games, not made for casuals, but too easy and shallow for hardcore audiences, so it sort of just meanders around not really having a concise vision.
 
Unless they invite press to a event like Sony and Microsoft did, a Nintendo Direct wont cut it for it to have the impact you would get at E3 or any other type of expo period.

Well, an event is happening and for all I know it will be done at some place with press invites and all.
 
Is it crazy of me to think a March 2017 release date isn't terrible? They have a new account system, I really hope they're getting out of the dark ages with their network and Emily Rogers saying to expect greater software output...what if launching in March gives Nintendo time to ensure their network is stable, stagger the release of the console and handheld (assuming that's all true as well) and build a small software library in time for holiday 2017.

What the fuck am I thinking, Nintendo is doomed
 
I figure Nintendo either:

A) Confirmed PS4K and is trying to find out how to properly compete with it. Either by including more powerful specs or by waiting for Sony to fully commit to hardware specs on it so that suddenly Nintendo doesn't look like it's selling a weaker console at a similar price.

B) Not enough 1st and 3rd party games that are committed to the thing for this holiday and needs more committed games before having a holiday season. In other words, avoid a Wii U.

I'm leaning towards option B or maybe option C) which is "Nintendo Incompetence"

Is it crazy of me to think a March 2017 release date isn't terrible? They have a new account system, I really hope they're getting out of the dark ages with their network and Emily Rogers saying to expect greater software output...what if launching in March gives Nintendo time to ensure their network is stable, stagger the release of the console and handheld (assuming that's all true as well) and build a small software library in time for holiday 2017.

What the fuck am I thinking, Nintendo is doomed

I don't think the release date is a deal for most, it's the lack of E3 coverage which is causing the "outrage"
 
I feel like this was a recent decision. From Trev's info a few months back we saw that Zelda was planned for this year. Now it's pushed back to next year with the NX version.

I'm gonna guess something came up with the NX and it delayed the system. Maybe they're making changes to the hardware or something. Plus there's all that e3 space they have, could have been planned for some NX showing but things have changed now. This is just my speculation.

At least there's a decent amount of 3DS titles we'll see.

14nm yields aren't good enough for mass quantity production?
 
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