Applying for jobs is exhausting and soul-crushing

I've never had a 9-5 job.

I live in a rather terrible town that has no opportunities (I dropped out of college, stupidly, and even those who continued with education and went to university struggle to find just a crappy retail job) and it really is terrible.

I've resorted to giving up, becoming a shut-in and trying to make money online. It's terrible.
 

ThisGuy

Member
I've never had a 9-5 job.

I live in a rather terrible town that has no opportunities (I dropped out of college, stupidly, and even those who continued with education and went to university struggle to find just a crappy retail job) and it really is terrible.

I've resorted to giving up, becoming a shut-in and trying to make money online. It's terrible.

Don't be afraid to move. If I get this position it's what I'll end up doing. I live in shit hole. Finish that degree pimpn and move away.
 
I've never had a 9-5 job.

I live in a rather terrible town that has no opportunities (I dropped out of college, stupidly, and even those who continued with education and went to university struggle to find just a crappy retail job) and it really is terrible.

I've resorted to giving up, becoming a shut-in and trying to make money online. It's terrible.

Can you make money online? Why not go digital nomad like me? Live in Southeast Asia for a while, travel around and stay in hostels, see the world. You don't NEED college.
 
Can you make money online? Why not go digital nomad like me? Live in Southeast Asia for a while, travel around and stay in hostels, see the world. You don't NEED college.

It's possible, but getting increasingly difficult as so many people are idiotic and willing to work for free.

I would love to travel around, I think at heart I am the type of person that cannot settle down in one place. There's just too much of the world to see.
 

seb

Banned
So... I'm about to get fired. There's a slim chance that I won't be. We don't know right now. My soul is crushed preemptively. I so do *not* want to be looking for a job :( The waiting is killing me too.
I have nothing to add to the thread really, just needed to tell someone how I *actually* feel about it as I have to stay positive at home in front of my wife and kids.
 
So... I'm about to get fired. There's a slim chance that I won't be. We don't know right now. My soul is crushed preemptively. I so do *not* want to be looking for a job :( The waiting is killing me too.
I have nothing to add to the thread really, just needed to tell someone how I *actually* feel about it as I have to stay positive at home in front of my wife and kids.

Sorry to hear that man :/ Are you going to be able to use that place as a good reference?


I've been having "difficulty" applying for jobs since I interviewed for a one on Tuesday. I really really want that particular job as it's really unique, it's mission is something I'm really passionate about and it would give me great opportunities to network and grow professionally.

So when I see a job for an admin assistant or something like that, I'm kind of like "meh" even though I shouldn't be :/
 
My previous job was on the Taco Bell Service Desk. I found out that they are outsourcing the entire staff. Good thing I got out when I did.
 

gwailo

Banned
What does that job entail? Customers calling to complain their 6 layer burrito only had 5 layers? That sounds like pure hell.
 

seb

Banned
Sorry to hear that man :/ Are you going to be able to use that place as a good reference?


I've been having "difficulty" applying for jobs since I interviewed for a one on Tuesday. I really really want that particular job as it's really unique, it's mission is something I'm really passionate about and it would give me great opportunities to network and grow professionally.

So when I see a job for an admin assistant or something like that, I'm kind of like "meh" even though I shouldn't be :/

Hopefully I should not have a problem finding another job. The thing is, I love what I am doing and the pay is good too. I know I will loose a lot, no mater what. I'll be more specific once the deed is done. There's still a chance and the social media policy is a bit restrictive.

Did you let them know how much this job means to you? I know next time I see a job I want I will go out of my way to try and get it. Like follow up by email (without harassing them, but still :) )
 
I quit my job last month.

No new job; no back up; no income.

I knew I could not finish my novel with employment hanging over me, so I gave my 2 weeks and am now living off my savings and retirement.

In a month, I'll start looking for a new gig, once I've completed the first draft.

Sometimes you have to push all your chips in and invest in yourself.
 
I quit my job last month.

No new job; no back up; no income.

I knew I could not finish my novel with employment hanging over me, so I gave my 2 weeks and am now living off my savings and retirement.

In a month, I'll start looking for a new gig, once I've completed the first draft.

Sometimes you have to push all your chips in and invest in yourself.

Good luck either way. :)
 
What does that job entail? Customers calling to complain their 6 layer burrito only had 5 layers? That sounds like pure hell.
Lol, but no. IT service desk as in help with the restaurant's computers, POS,routers, and their Elearning online courses, which teach them how to make burritos. It was pure hell still.
 
Lol, but no. IT service desk as in help with the restaurant's computers, POS, and their Elearning online courses, which teach them how to make burritos.

One of my friends had a job doing POS upgrades and installs for a burger chain. Sounded like the worst kind of IT job. He'd get there and spend two hours on the install and then four hours cleaning out malware from the manager's desktop.
 
One of my friends had a job doing POS upgrades and installs for a burger chain. Sounded like the worst kind of IT job. He'd get there and spend two hours on the install and then four hours cleaning out malware from the manager's desktop.
That sounds better than answering calls from angry restaurant owners, area coaches, and managers like I had to do.
 
Couple questions that I've always wondered but never really bothered to ask ever:

1. Should you always have questions to ask the interviewer? I almost never do because I often research as much as I can and solve what matters to me. But I always feel like they're expecting questions. So what questions should people ask?

2. When asked to bring a resume to the interview, do you bring a different resume from the one you submit in the application process? I've condensed mine to one page as I was told that's the preferred amount currently, but I feel like handing a 1 page resume in the actual interview feels weak. Plus they should already have my resume anyway. Also does it hurt to hand more than a resume?
 
Couple questions that I've always wondered but never really bothered to ask ever:

1. Should you always have questions to ask the interviewer? I almost never do because I often research as much as I can and solve what matters to me. But I always feel like they're expecting questions. So what questions should people ask?

2. When asked to bring a resume to the interview, do you bring a different resume from the one you submit in the application process? I've condensed mine to one page as I was told that's the preferred amount currently, but I feel like handing a 1 page resume in the actual interview feels weak. Plus they should already have my resume anyway. Also does it hurt to hand more than a resume?

1. YES. In the US at least, the belief is that not having questions to ask shows that you haven't researched the company and may not be that interested in the role. Write down three of so questions you would like them to answer, even if you feel like you know what the response will be.

2. This is less of a big deal. If you want to bring a two-page resume with you to an interview feel free. The main reason people bring paper copies is that often people will be pulled into the interview at the last minute. Having copies makes you look prepared, which is nice.
 

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Had an interview today for a developer role.

Step 1 of 2. Thought it went okay but got a call in 2 hour after the interview that they are not going further with me. :(

Fucking ace company, amazing office and culture they had.

I feel terrible. I really want to switch jobs, and its so difficult to find one. This was PERFECT fit. Fuckk man fucking fuckkkkk

Sorry just had to rant somewhere.
 
Hopefully I should not have a problem finding another job. The thing is, I love what I am doing and the pay is good too. I know I will loose a lot, no mater what. I'll be more specific once the deed is done. There's still a chance and the social media policy is a bit restrictive.

Did you let them know how much this job means to you? I know next time I see a job I want I will go out of my way to try and get it. Like follow up by email (without harassing them, but still :) )


I made it clear during the interview. ;) I was actually offered the job today. Just gotta do some of the standard stuff and its all official. (Drug and criminal backgroubd test, etc)
 

MC Safety

Member
Couple questions that I've always wondered but never really bothered to ask ever:

1. Should you always have questions to ask the interviewer? I almost never do because I often research as much as I can and solve what matters to me. But I always feel like they're expecting questions. So what questions should people ask?

2. When asked to bring a resume to the interview, do you bring a different resume from the one you submit in the application process? I've condensed mine to one page as I was told that's the preferred amount currently, but I feel like handing a 1 page resume in the actual interview feels weak. Plus they should already have my resume anyway. Also does it hurt to hand more than a resume?

Always ask questions about the role, the company, anything you can except for salary and benefits. That's cart before the horse stuff.

Always bring extra copies of the resume to an interview.
 

Hylian7

Member
I don't know what to do with myself. I'm a programmer with a bachelor's in computer science. I have had two jobs in my career since college. The first one I was forced to resign (or be fired0 for performance (I chose wrong obviously, since I couldn't collect unemployment, but I was only unemployed for like 2 months after that one). The second job I was fired from also for performance.

Then shortly before I lost the last job, I was diagnosed with ADHD and realized it explains a ton about my life in general, and why my performance was poor at those jobs. I have applied to tons of places, had plenty of interviews, phone, onsite, Skype, etc. I still haven't gotten anywhere. I have had so many close calls, but they passed for whatever reason, about half of them I would say just decided they wanted something else (position was for Java developer, then they go "LOL WE WANT PHP"). I just had an interview on Tuesday with a major company, which does their interviews in a different city across the country, and I found out today they still rejected me after that interview. They did pay for my airfare, hotel, and other expenses for the interview trip. Supposedly even the onsite interview at this company is generally considered difficult, but still I felt like I did better than that, although I think I know which part, if anything, might have screwed me up in that interview.

The other day I had a company reject me for a position because of the resume gap (a year), although the recruiter that put me up for that position is putting me up for a more junior one with the same company, which they are still considering me for.

Is my career totally fucked? I've just gotten more and more depressed over the last year, and feel worthless and like a failure. I haven't gotten anywhere, my unemployment is out, I'm out of hope. I've even felt suicidal at times (but I won't actually do it). I'm on treatment for the ADHD, but I feel like the damage is already done. Obviously, the first job I can dress up as me leaving, but the second one I can't, and then having the unemployment gap really isn't very fair that companies are rejecting based on that, when no one is giving me a chance.

I'm trying to find a job for anything, and I think it's fucking pathetic that I have to find a job at a grocery store, Gamestop, or something like that. I hate myself, and I'm a complete and total fuckup.
 
You tell him when you have a solid job offer that you can sign. ONLY then do you tell him. You are opening yourself up to a world of hurt if you tell him you are looking. Do NOT do it.

See that was my concern, but I did further research and spoke to the people looking to leave there current position. One of them had a private discussion with the manager once the interview for the other job was confirmed, the other kinda got caught out after they were doing a telephone interview with the recruitment company in the break out areas, never a good idea, but the response of the manager was that he didn't want them to go, but will work with them to plan the shifts around the interview.

At this point, the department knows that they are leaving, looking to leave. No sort of bad stuff/negative events has happened with them, they both spoke to the manager of the department regarding a reference as well for the other job, he was fine with giving a positive one.

HOWEVER! I now know, after getting a hold of a few contacts in the industry I work for/in, and speaking to recruitment agencies, that me not holding a driving license is putting me on the back foot, especially when the job is 15+ miles from where I live. They all said or explained that the people who use public transport don't get to work on time or leave the job shortly after, due to using public transport, more then those who drive.

I'm not going to bother spending a small fortune in both time and money getting interviews and travelling just to be passed over on because I can't drive.

From the feedback so far, my cv, mannerisms and me as a person is a great candidate, but the driving thing has resulted in me not getting one job I really wanted. Time for that to change.

So I'm just going to get my license , (already taking lessons) and start driving as soon as, just so I can get the job I want rather then it fall apart after the interview.
 
Then shortly before I lost the last job, I was diagnosed with ADHD and realized it explains a ton about my life in general, and why my performance was poor at those jobs.

Have you been prescribed anything or are seeing a professional after your diagnosis that might help with it? And have you looked at government jobs for programming? I'm in IT and have ran across tons of development/programming focused jobs whenever I peek into government openings.

Edit: Nevermind the first question, I see later you say you're on treatment. I must have skimmed over it.
 

entremet

Member
It's possible, but getting increasingly difficult as so many people are idiotic and willing to work for free.

I would love to travel around, I think at heart I am the type of person that cannot settle down in one place. There's just too much of the world to see.

All this is possible.

You gotta break you goals down into manageable steps. The key is to get help. Do not isolate yourself. There are people willing to help you.

Humans are pack animals. This why career types tend to harp on networking. I used to personally hate networking, but when I reframed into helping others, I started to enjoy it.

After a while, people started to offer me jobs and opportunies. We like to help those who help us.

Essentially that's what work is. How can you help or contribute to a company or client base (if you're an entrepreneur).

Unfortunately, the US and the Millennial generation, have been hoodwinked that you should look out for yourself. That's not how it works. It's not about you. It's what you can do for others. Employers don't care about your dreams. Neither do clients. They want you to solve their problems.

Hopefully, you can do something you love, but when starting out, you may need to put in the hours first.

Sounds corny, sounds cliche, but it has never failed me.
 

NEO0MJ

Member
Is my career totally fucked? I've just gotten more and more depressed over the last year, and feel worthless and like a failure. I haven't gotten anywhere, my unemployment is out, I'm out of hope. I've even felt suicidal at times (but I won't actually do it). I'm on treatment for the ADHD, but I feel like the damage is already done. Obviously, the first job I can dress up as me leaving, but the second one I can't, and then having the unemployment gap really isn't very fair that companies are rejecting based on that, when no one is giving me a chance.

I'm trying to find a job for anything, and I think it's fucking pathetic that I have to find a job at a grocery store, Gamestop, or something like that. I hate myself, and I'm a complete and total fuckup.

I feel like i'm in a similar situation. Are there any certificates/programs you can take to up your value to companies?
 

Hylian7

Member
Have you been prescribed anything or are seeing a professional after your diagnosis that might help with it? And have you looked at government jobs for programming? I'm in IT and have ran across tons of development/programming focused jobs whenever I peek into government openings.

Edit: Nevermind the first question, I see later you say you're on treatment. I must have skimmed over it.
The first job was a government job as a programmer. I am still looking into them if I see them though. I just haven't had any luck getting a response.
 

entremet

Member
I don't know what to do with myself. I'm a programmer with a bachelor's in computer science. I have had two jobs in my career since college. The first one I was forced to resign (or be fired0 for performance (I chose wrong obviously, since I couldn't collect unemployment, but I was only unemployed for like 2 months after that one). The second job I was fired from also for performance.

Then shortly before I lost the last job, I was diagnosed with ADHD and realized it explains a ton about my life in general, and why my performance was poor at those jobs. I have applied to tons of places, had plenty of interviews, phone, onsite, Skype, etc. I still haven't gotten anywhere. I have had so many close calls, but they passed for whatever reason, about half of them I would say just decided they wanted something else (position was for Java developer, then they go "LOL WE WANT PHP"). I just had an interview on Tuesday with a major company, which does their interviews in a different city across the country, and I found out today they still rejected me after that interview. They did pay for my airfare, hotel, and other expenses for the interview trip. Supposedly even the onsite interview at this company is generally considered difficult, but still I felt like I did better than that, although I think I know which part, if anything, might have screwed me up in that interview.

The other day I had a company reject me for a position because of the resume gap (a year), although the recruiter that put me up for that position is putting me up for a more junior one with the same company, which they are still considering me for.

Is my career totally fucked? I've just gotten more and more depressed over the last year, and feel worthless and like a failure. I haven't gotten anywhere, my unemployment is out, I'm out of hope. I've even felt suicidal at times (but I won't actually do it). I'm on treatment for the ADHD, but I feel like the damage is already done. Obviously, the first job I can dress up as me leaving, but the second one I can't, and then having the unemployment gap really isn't very fair that companies are rejecting based on that, when no one is giving me a chance.

I'm trying to find a job for anything, and I think it's fucking pathetic that I have to find a job at a grocery store, Gamestop, or something like that. I hate myself, and I'm a complete and total fuckup.

You're not a fuck up. You just hit a road bump. We all do.

Have you consider speaking with your state's employment office? They usually have good resources for the educated since you have a degree.
 

Hylian7

Member
You're not a fuck up. You just hit a road bump. We all do.

Have you consider speaking with your state's employment office? They usually have good resources for the educated since you have a degree.

I'm not sure what exactly I should ask them. They have a job applying site I guess I could look at more. I've gone through all my unemployment and can't get more.
 
Try craigslist in the gigs section.

Wow so I literally just made a quick $75 helping an older carpet cleaner gent do some easy work across town.

I don't really see anything else now, but I guess I'll try to be an extras actor? Low expectations, but thanks for pointing me to the gigs.

Rent your Fb account $100
We are a firm that is doing an advertising study on Facebook. We are using your Ads Manager from your facebook to generate attention BUT it does not affect your personal page all notifications
are pushed to a seperate admin account to keep your page private. simple process only takes
20-30 min you only need a laptop and a Facebook and you qualify.

Respond with your name and number and we will call you within minutes.

I don't give a crap about Facebook, but this sounds like a really bad idea.
 

Concept17

Member
I've officially begun my search for a position in the gaming industry... as an artist. I've applied at 3 places so far, but haven't heard anything back. Will be continuing to further my portfolio in the meantime.
 
Well, I now have a story similar to others in this thread. Went through 4 interviews for an internship (that would turn into a full-time position) at a startup and did really well, but at the last minute they decided they wanted a different type of intern (I'm bioinformatics and they now want a purely computer science intern). The CEO called me to explain, though, and said they really liked me and that she'd forward my resume on. So that softened the blow a bit.

I'm a little scared companies won't consider me for full time positions until I've finished my degree, even though I only have two classes left. I already have another Master's degree and a bunch of work experience, but you never know.
 

meowmixer

Neo Member
Got an invite to "interview day" after interviewing twice at a company. Some event they hold where you do multiple interviews and assessments. I've interviewed twice so far. Problem is the company is across the country and would cost $400+ to fly out plus taxi/rental/lost work pay. There is another round after this anyway, so would I be expected to fly out again?

Doesn't seem worth it, I feel like they will just hire some local guy no matter how well I do. But that 1% chance of getting out of this slump irks me. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
 

Hylian7

Member
Got an invite to "interview day" after interviewing twice at a company. Some event they hold where you do multiple interviews and assessments. I've interviewed twice so far. Problem is the company is across the country and would cost $400+ to fly out plus taxi/rental/lost work pay. There is another round after this anyway, so would I be expected to fly out again?

Doesn't seem worth it, I feel like they will just hire some local guy no matter how well I do. But that 1% chance of getting out of this slump irks me. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

If they aren't paying for your flight and stuff, I wouldn't bother honestly.
 
Well, I now have a story similar to others in this thread. Went through 4 interviews for an internship (that would turn into a full-time position) at a startup and did really well, but at the last minute they decided they wanted a different type of intern (I'm bioinformatics and they now want a purely computer science intern). The CEO called me to explain, though, and said they really liked me and that she'd forward my resume on. So that softened the blow a bit.

I'm a little scared companies won't consider me for full time positions until I've finished my degree, even though I only have two classes left. I already have another Master's degree and a bunch of work experience, but you never know.

I think it's very, very common for companies to take on employees going for a degree. All of the guys I work with are going for their Masters.
 

Pau

Member
When online applications give you the option to apply using Facebook or LinkedIn or their own form, what's the best option? Or does it end up being the same thing?
 
When online applications give you the option to apply using Facebook or LinkedIn or their own form, what's the best option? Or does it end up being the same thing?

Usually end up being the same thing, Pau.

But my experience is generally, their own form > LinkedIn > facebook.
 

Tristam

Member
I don't know what to do with myself. I'm a programmer with a bachelor's in computer science. I have had two jobs in my career since college. The first one I was forced to resign (or be fired0 for performance (I chose wrong obviously, since I couldn't collect unemployment, but I was only unemployed for like 2 months after that one). The second job I was fired from also for performance.

Then shortly before I lost the last job, I was diagnosed with ADHD and realized it explains a ton about my life in general, and why my performance was poor at those jobs. I have applied to tons of places, had plenty of interviews, phone, onsite, Skype, etc. I still haven't gotten anywhere. I have had so many close calls, but they passed for whatever reason, about half of them I would say just decided they wanted something else (position was for Java developer, then they go "LOL WE WANT PHP"). I just had an interview on Tuesday with a major company, which does their interviews in a different city across the country, and I found out today they still rejected me after that interview. They did pay for my airfare, hotel, and other expenses for the interview trip. Supposedly even the onsite interview at this company is generally considered difficult, but still I felt like I did better than that, although I think I know which part, if anything, might have screwed me up in that interview.

The other day I had a company reject me for a position because of the resume gap (a year), although the recruiter that put me up for that position is putting me up for a more junior one with the same company, which they are still considering me for.

Is my career totally fucked? I've just gotten more and more depressed over the last year, and feel worthless and like a failure. I haven't gotten anywhere, my unemployment is out, I'm out of hope. I've even felt suicidal at times (but I won't actually do it). I'm on treatment for the ADHD, but I feel like the damage is already done. Obviously, the first job I can dress up as me leaving, but the second one I can't, and then having the unemployment gap really isn't very fair that companies are rejecting based on that, when no one is giving me a chance.

I'm trying to find a job for anything, and I think it's fucking pathetic that I have to find a job at a grocery store, Gamestop, or something like that. I hate myself, and I'm a complete and total fuckup.

Earlier I think you said that you weren't willing/able to relocate, but if you were flown out for your most recent interview I would guess that has changed? If so I would recommend trying to crack the DC metro area's labor market - huge demand, and relatively short supply. I suspect there are plenty of employers more than willing to overlook the gap year to pick up a developer like yourself.
 

Hylian7

Member
Earlier I think you said that you weren't willing/able to relocate, but if you were flown out for your most recent interview I would guess that has changed? If so I would recommend trying to crack the DC metro area's labor market - huge demand, and relatively short supply. I suspect there are plenty of employers more than willing to overlook the gap year to pick up a developer like yourself.

Nope, this particular companies does their interviews in a different city, but the position was still for Austin.
 
Found out the job I was about to start has popped back up on Indeed and so I applied to it immediately. What I'm thinking is, is that they are now posting this job themselves (the company itself, not the IT recruiting company doing it) because they will not deal with that recruiting company anymore on how everything was so fucked up with them. I don't blame them. So I applied to it once, and then twice (because it was re-posted to be newer) and then even directly on their site. I even added the guy who interviewed me at that place on LinkedIn and told him I applied to the job. Hopefully they try to get me back.
 
I'm now so sick of my current job that I'm applying for just about anything. I can't take being around these people anymore.

Considering that since I left school I had one retail job (flogging PC's in Toys R Us, lol) that lasted about 2 years or so, and ever since then I've been in an office environment, I'm looking at some more of the different stuff available.


I'm currently applying for a "Community Warden" position with my local council. My cousin's a copper, but he went through the community police route before going with the Met, so I asked him to have a browse over the listing and let me know what he thinks.

It actually sounds alright! the lowest pay is just slightly less than I'm getting at the mo, so I can handle that. They want someone with some kind of dog handling course under their belt, but I don't think there'll be many people out there with that. I've just got the "why should we consider you?" bit of the application to do before the Friday deadline.

They've really made it sound like the job is "dogcatcher" because they really focused on having a company vehicle, full licence is a must, and handling rescued/stray dogs.

Sounds like it could be a giggle if I got it. I'd be out of the office at least 80% of the time, which I could really do with right now!


I'm sick of getting up and being instantly depressed that "I have to go back to THAT place again", and I always come home miserable too. My first child is due in a couple of weeks, and I really REALLY don't want him exposed to me in that mood!

Anyone got any good tips for writing a decent qualifying statement?
 

-Horizon-

Member
about how long should I wait to contact them after an interview if I haven't heard back from them?

they said they'd try to contact by the end of last week but made no guarantees
 

Prez

Member
I'm in very big trouble and I've waited long enough for advice. Basically my resume is worthless. I'm now 27 and spent the last 9 years dealing with depression and anxiety. Bombed the first 4 years of higher education. Then I spent another 3 years after which I finally got a bachelor's degree in a field I now hate and never want to work in. I spent a year after graduating jobless and extremely depressed. 4 months ago I got a job in sales that I eventually need to get out of but I have absolutely no idea how I can ever get out of this mess. There's not much worth mentioning on my resume. I did some volunteering but it's only 7 days in the last 2 years, nothing before that. I have a couple months of work experience as a student but that's pretty much nothing over the course of 9 years. I can't even do much in Word and Excel. I'm getting even more depressed and hopeless than I ever was before which makes it harder to take any action.

What am I supposed to do now? Stay in my job for X amount of time before applying for something else? Start by learning Word and Excel? Do more volunteering? I'd love a government job right now but I feel there's no way I could ever get hired with such a horrible resume. It feels like even if I take action now, everything I screwed up before will forever make my resume worthless.
 
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