Filipino-GAF get in here!!!!!
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UnObtainium17
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damn. those Chinese hackers must be working on overtime by now.
Edit: just saw the presidential numbers.. It definitely is Duterte to be the president. I feel i'm jinxing my presidentiables. Sanders then now defensor. I gotta lay low next elections lol.
Edit: just saw the presidential numbers.. It definitely is Duterte to be the president. I feel i'm jinxing my presidentiables. Sanders then now defensor. I gotta lay low next elections lol.
I laugh whenever I see this in my Twitter feed and some people believe this.
ROBREDO: IF ELECTED VICE PRESIDENT OF DUTERTE, I WILL IMMEDIATELY RESIGN MY POST
But really wow, things really turned fast for the VP race.
ROBREDO: IF ELECTED VICE PRESIDENT OF DUTERTE, I WILL IMMEDIATELY RESIGN MY POST
But really wow, things really turned fast for the VP race.
sleverfunk
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Damn Leni really caught up or cheat mode activated.
But If she wins, will she keep her word that she step down if rody wins? lmao
But If she wins, will she keep her word that she step down if rody wins? lmao
that shit is satire
she really said that she won't mind any president, even Duterte, but she'd prefer it to be Roxas.
As an Australian I find it completely weird that Durerte can say some of the things he says and still get elected. Why is that? Do people not care whether he's personally vile, they just care if he can be tough on crime?
I'm thinking of when he said that as mayor he should have been first to rape an Australian hostage who was later murdered. If someone said something like that here they'd be forced to resign within a day.
I'm thinking of when he said that as mayor he should have been first to rape an Australian hostage who was later murdered. If someone said something like that here they'd be forced to resign within a day.
They are defending Duterte's comment. Not taking a stance against it. They are really tired of the corruption in government and the crime and drugs, so they hope he can ultimately take care of that.
During that hostage crisis, he swapped himself for two hostages and became the hostage himself with the other women.
This is actually Duterte's ridiculous brand of campaign (I live in Davao City, this shit is typical in his sorties), I always believed that he only said that rape comment so people would research on what happened in DAPECOL (The 1989 hostage crisis that involves the Australian woman) and then brand him as a hero.
The corruption scandal (search Duterte Trillanes BPI bank account)? It is pretty obvious that he is the one who fed that information.
This is exactly what makes him really dangerous, it is never about the money.Think of Frank Underwood. Duterte is more of an Underwood than a Trump.
killertofu
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Wait really? Not defending the comments but that's kind of noble
He is branded leftist because the NPA (armed communist group) surrenders captured military/police to him and he goes to their camp and scolds them A LOT on why this shit is happening (you can find videos of him in these camps).
You might have heard of Davao Death Squads, they are former NPAs that were used initially to cleanse out the police / military after Martial Law, then the drug lords and kidnap for ransom groups moving forward. That is why communist groups adore him a lot.
The police / army loves him too because he provides lawyers for them and basically coddles them as long as they are not involved in organized crimes specially drugs. He even defended a high-ranking official after that official publicly assaulted his wife!
He is actually more of a "center". Don't make it fool you, he's an elite, his father is a governor during Martial Law.
He is also well-loved by Muslims (so no not a Trump), Lumads (Aborigines/American Indians equivalents), and evangelical groups (weird ass, I know). He hates and is hated by the Catholic Church.
He also hates Americans and outright rejected American base proposals in Davao City. He disallowed mining in Davao but approved of coal power plant after Aquino kneecapped the power in Mindanao (Most of Mindanao's power are public properties, compared to capital that was a private entity, the administration wants it privatized, though Davao City's privatized because the elder Aquino).
Fun fact: An American CIA agent was captured trying to bomb Davao City to incite war against the Islam community. Duterte will always be Anti-American forever.
Hence, red-tagging.
I voted for him because of Federalism, but I am critic of his summary killings ever since. It is selective justice. But I cant deny that he is really an efficient leader (Free 911 / centralized emergency response, Free healthcare for children with cancer, takes care of the Lumads, effective anti-smoking implementation, among other things in really TIGHT budget).
I made a mistake, it wasn't with the Australian, but the earlier hostages. The same group actually pulled out ANOTHER hostage four months later and that then includes the Australian woman.
There is a movie of the hostage crisis.
EYEL1NER
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Do you mean the cities known as the "Four Tigers?" I assume so because I saw a reference to them earlier today in either this thread or the Duterte thread. When I came across the term, I looked it up. The following is from wiki:
EYEL1NER
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Ah, gotcha. Like I said, I saw that mentioned earlier about the Tigers and had never heard of it, so I looked into it then. I did some googling for "Tiger City" + "Manila" and "Tiger City" + "Luzon" and didnt turn anything up, so it beats me.
EDIT: Actually, I missed something in my google searches. Turns out Mandaluyong, a part of metro Manila, is nicknamed The Tiger City: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandaluyong
So there's that, possibly.
Yeah, that's it! They called Mandaluyong the tiger city. Wonder why that is?
Sorry I couldn't look it all up myself. I have horrible connection here in Cavite.
EYEL1NER
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I poked around a bit more and found this claim on someone's WordPress:
That still doesn't answer "why?" very well though. I wonder if it is something I would have to know Tagalog to get or some culturally specific thing. Someone else may be able to answer it but "It's the Tiger City because it has an important and vibrant economy?" Yeah... Not sure what that is supposed to do with tigers.
No problem though. I know the Internet in Cavite (Imus specifically) is pretty poor.
Very interesting. I will try and study it more when I get back to Denmark. I will also see if I can find Filipino movies online. I found Wag Kang Lilingon and The Breakup Playlist on Amazon but it is the "international version"; what does that mean?
I'm also now supporting Duterte as our new president, as he at least deserves to show what he got as the leader of the country.
I also had no idea that Mandaluyong is part of Manila. I wonder how many areas are seen as part of Manila. Maybe I can see it on the map I bought from The National Bookstore.
I'm also now supporting Duterte as our new president, as he at least deserves to show what he got as the leader of the country.
I also had no idea that Mandaluyong is part of Manila. I wonder how many areas are seen as part of Manila. Maybe I can see it on the map I bought from The National Bookstore.
DonMigs85
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It's part of METRO Manila, but not "old" Manila.
agentofatlas
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The AFP doesn't love him bro. At least according to the people I spoke to. Also don't think federalism is a good idea for the Philippines at the moment.
Well he's president now. It's best to support him while being vigilant.
His cabinet members will be comprised of retired army men.
And it is time for Federalism, Tagum City's IRA this year is at 1.3 Billion, look at our combined income generated with Davao City. And look at the IRA of Davao City this year too, it's insulting.
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agentofatlas
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His cabinet members will be comprised of retired army men.
And it is time for Federalism, Tagum City's IRA this year is at 1.3 Billion, look at our combined income generated with Davao City. And look at the IRA of Davao City this year too, it's insulting.
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I can only tell you what I've heard first hand from the command chain. They don't love him because of npa thing. Which I can understand seeing as they killed thier friends.
As for federalism, we'll see. I'm still skeptical.
Is it possible that some people may not vote for VP? or do you have to pick one for your presidential vote to count?
Not a ticket system, Pres and VPs are voted separately. You can abstain from VP and still get your Pres vote to get counted and vice versa.
I'm really interested of the reasoning behind this skepticism.
the Constitution has to be changed for federalism to happen
also what kind of federalism will we have? the National government still must have funds for it to function like for education, what about those areas that are underdeveloped
lots of issues to work out, don't think it can be done that easily
also what kind of federalism will we have? the National government still must have funds for it to function like for education, what about those areas that are underdeveloped
lots of issues to work out, don't think it can be done that easily
agentofatlas
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Main concern really is the nature of Philippine politics. Political dynasties + federalism seems like the wrong combo.
The current system today still fosters political dynasties. The budgeting is still being done by the central government and parts of the nation are being severely underfunded.
I think Federalism (Nene Pimentel's draft) prevents dynasties because it hinges the funds on the locality not as favors from the people in the national govt. In short, they should work hard to foster their economy.
I think Federalism (Nene Pimentel's draft) prevents dynasties because it hinges the funds on the locality not as favors from the people in the national govt. In short, they should work hard to foster their economy.
Not even as an Australian, but I think as a human being, this guy is vile.
A few more Duterte supporters are popping up on my Facebook feed. I've seen "real change is coming" to "death to all criminal" - seems to be on two ends of the spectrum.
*Disclaimer: I didn't vote for Duterte, but I am not against him
I really don't side with anything regarding politics. As I see it, people here are "desperate". People are sick of the rampant criminals. People are sick of corrupt officials. People are desperate for justice.
Then there's Duterte. He made an evident elimination of criminals in Davao. Is there really a "Death Squad"? People don't seem to care, with some even justifying them.
People here wants tangible results. They don't care if the economy is rising or falling, as most of the poor people don't even feel it. With Duterte, they feel comfortable of at least reducing the evil people, thinking it would help with the way of life.
No matter how foul-mouthed he is, people will defend him, because common people are used to hearing bad words. They are really "desperate" to elect a foul-mouthed asshole who they believe will solve criminality, than common politicians with the same old agendas to just improve the Philippines.
I really don't side with anything regarding politics. As I see it, people here are "desperate". People are sick of the rampant criminals. People are sick of corrupt officials. People are desperate for justice.
Then there's Duterte. He made an evident elimination of criminals in Davao. Is there really a "Death Squad"? People don't seem to care, with some even justifying them.
People here wants tangible results. They don't care if the economy is rising or falling, as most of the poor people don't even feel it. With Duterte, they feel comfortable of at least reducing the evil people, thinking it would help with the way of life.
No matter how foul-mouthed he is, people will defend him, because common people are used to hearing bad words. They are really "desperate" to elect a foul-mouthed asshole who they believe will solve criminality, than common politicians with the same old agendas to just improve the Philippines.
titiklabingapat
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What form of federalism is Duterte proposing and how will he be able to enact such change it? Didn't the last few administrations try that and they all miserably failed because of misinformation spread by the Catholic Church? I think federalism is a good fit as the Philippines is a very diverse country. It's not homogeneous like Japan or Thailand is. It's more like Brazil and the United States since you have multiple religions, hundreds of languages (not dialects like popularly presented), many ethnic groups and different socio-economic classes.
I also hope they also change the way they vote for senators. Do it by region or province, not a nationwide at large thing. The current system makes it too easy for celebrities with great name recognition to win a senate seat over someone more qualified and localised.
I also hope they also change the way they vote for senators. Do it by region or province, not a nationwide at large thing. The current system makes it too easy for celebrities with great name recognition to win a senate seat over someone more qualified and localised.
His rough public personality has separated him from the way traditional politicians carry themselves in public that is why he has earned a lot of following especially on youth who has been politically active online as of late, for better or for worse. In politics sometimes being "different" can really carry your popularity upward especially when the "normal" approach has rubbed the people the wrong way.
These death squads sound so scary to me. So if you're on the list for minor crimes, and no matter if you are a minor or adult, guys wearing caps can at any time come drive by on their motorcycle and shoot you down. If you are a criminal that is.
I'm still somewhat okay with Duterte being the new president.
I'm still somewhat okay with Duterte being the new president.
Did I miss something on that? all I saw was a bunch of bad dick jokes
Congress as a whole needs a big change. I feel like it's a more powerful entity than the other branches of government in terms of getting the national budget but their accomplishments as of late are very appalling. If Duterte abolishes that branch I won't mind lol. But yeah, the legislative side needs a big overhaul.
If I have my ways, I would do the following:
- Remove the party list system. That system has been bastardized and has been easily used by opportunists as a fast and easy way to become congressmen. And they are supposed to support the marginalized sector of society, yet the representatives never come from that sector. And a lot never uses a marginalized sector to represent to begin with. Security guards, babies, high-paid athletes, celebrities...like who approves those shit?
- Reduce the number of representatives in congress. Just make it one per city, not per district. I really don't see the reason why we need a lot of congressmen who never gives a damn about attendance anyway.
- Speaking of attendance, give them a limit to their absences, like 20% per year. Seeing the house and senate having a lot of vacant seats makes me wonder why we pay them our taxes just to not do their jobs. Exceeding absences limit should be an automatic ground for removal in public office.
- Give term limits, like 3 terms and not allow them to run anymore, just like the president. It's funny how a president is given only 6 years yet we have senators that have been there since forever and the only one stopping them to run is probably death. Same with congressmen. In a way, making this a rule to all elected official maybe is the best way to reduce political dynasty of sorts.
- Put age limits and health requirements. Enrile is already too old for this. The only reason he's not retiring is because his son failed to win last time it seems lol. And the last time he was arrested for the pork barrel scam, he's complaining everyday about his failing health. Same with GMA, whose probably a congresswoman again even if she's on hospital arrest lol. If what their complaining about their health is true, then they should not be allowed to run or hold office in the first place.
- I agree with you about the election of senators. Like congressmen, they should be a representative of a region and be elected by the region. This will prevent political parties from just finding 12 popular people to run as senators like it's a popularity contest. And the senate will be more diverse in terms of representation and making laws.
It's basically tweets/slash fiction on the sons of the presidential candidates (mostly on Sandro and Baste). Some are hilarious though.
It was an, uhh... interesting turn of events in Twitterverse after the heated tweets during the early transmission of votes from a few days ago.
And yeah, a relative of mine had a run-in with the Davao Death Squad. He went into hiding after that. We're still not sure if he was a drug user, or a drug lord, though I am ruling out the latter based on how simple they were living.
EYEL1NER
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I don't know anything at all about the way senate elections and seats work in the Philippines but going off of the suggestions here, I can assume that it works opposite of how a lot of what you suggest works and that makes it sound like a shitty system. Some of these sound like no-brainers.
I mean, I can't even imagine how fucked the US would be if republicans nationwide could vote in every state's senate and representative elections. That just blows my mind that the system works like that in the Philippines. Why would someone in the middle of nowhere in General Santos, for example, want people in Manila or Tacloban or wherever else voting for who will represent them without knowing the needs of that area and the problems facing it?
nome unfortunately. you can prolly get them if you know a former crew.
FB Newsfeed has almost been purged from political posts...
EYEL1NER
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Man, mine has only gotten worse since the election. I open Facebook and it is nothing but comments on the VP Election and calls for recounts against Robredo, inquiries or investigations into cheating by Robredo, pro-BongBong messages... Just rabid BongBong support that makes me laugh since one of the reasons they were so pro-Duterte was because they think for some reason that he is not corrupt and that he will get rid of corruption, but then they want to vote for BongBong Marcos.
Two of my wife's sisters keep reposting images of tweets from some 'historian' who has a bunch of pro-Marcos tweets talking about how the Acquino family are the ones who had Ninoy assassinated and at first, I thought it was a "Look at how dumb this person is" thing when they were reposting them, but now I'm not so sure. The Facebook translate function doesn't work so well with any Tagalog that winds up on my feed since a lot of stuff seems to wind up abbreviated but it looked like what did get translated from their posts were possibly positive comments towards this woman's conspiracy theories.
I think I did see someone on my feed post something in favor of Leni, but I'm not sure. I need to have my wife translate it for me when she gets home from work and if it is pro-Leni and anti-Marcos like I think, I am going to 'like' it in hopes of it irritating my in-laws.
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