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Pokémon Sun and Moon Starters Revealed. Releases November 18th 2016.

Are the starters suppose to go towards a circus theme?
Rowlet has a bow tie and might get an overcoat or hat, which would make him the ringleader.

Popplio looks like a circus seal.

And Litten looks like it can become the big circus cat that jumps through fire rings, hence fire type.
 
Im seeing a lot of water users so I was getting worried but the fire guys showed up!

Only one lone grass guy, Im sure there are more. Interesting

Grass seems to be the most popular from what I've seen.

Are the starters suppose to go towards a circus theme?
Rowlet has a bow tie and might get an overcoat or hat, which would make him the ringleader.

The Water starter looks like a circus seal.

And Litten looks like it can become the big circus cat that jumps through fire rings, hence fire type.

Litten also spits fire like a circus performer and Popplio looks a bit like a clown. I think they are going for a circus theme.
 
In his defense, you are supposed to improve the designs.

Grimer, Muk, Voltorb, Electrode, Magnemite and Magneton were basically fillers from the 1st gen, and I'm sure we can find some others for 2nd gen.

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This is a FIFTH gen pokemon.

And yeah, the starters have been mostly hit or miss from gen 3 until now, which all 3 are just plain bland.

But the vanillite line has something going on, i guess. Grimer and muk + the fillers are that, just filler. Nothing, in this case a mass of purple animated blob. Even garbodor tried to be something conceptually.

And the starter part is arguable, without nostalgia googles the 1 gen starters are as bland and hit or miss as the rest, but they get a pass for being the first ones.


That's why the gen1 comments are so weird, they are extremely nostalgia-biased and lack any critical analysis. IMO every generation has it's ups and downs, and every starter generation delivers in a way or other.
 
Well, considering the first generation literally defined what we know as Pokemon, I wouldn't call it "getting a pass". Put some respek on gen 1s name
 
Its a starter thread so everyone should post their starter history, Im curious.

Squirtle
Totodile
Treecko
Piplup
I hate Gen V ( They all suck.. but Ill go with Osha)
Froakie
#TeamLITten

Gen I - Squirtle
Gen II - Chikorita/Totodile (I could never have a definitive favorite in Gen 2)
Gen III - Torchic
Gen IV - Piplup
Gen V - Tepig
Gen VI - Chespin
Gen VII - Rowlet

Obviously this is based on the base forms of the starters. If Rowlet ends up going some kind of Oshawott/Tepig/Froakie route where its final form ends up being ugly as fuck, I'll go with Popplio. Inb4 it ends up going that route too. T_T
 
I always choose the starter based on the final evolution, because while the owl is super cute, it might end up like a Mr. Mime, and that'd be horrifying!



Clothing too? Where could that be seen?

Note how the shirts and shorts have different coloring

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Are the starters suppose to go towards a circus theme?
Rowlet has a bow tie and might get an overcoat or hat, which would make him the ringleader.

Popplio looks like a circus seal.

And Litten looks like it can become the big circus cat that jumps through fire rings, hence fire type.

This is an smart and interesting way of seeing them, and shows a lot of potential. Hope they can pull off the concept with the rest off the stages.
 
I always choose the starter based on the final evolution, because while the owl is super cute, it might end up like a Mr. Mime, and that'd be horrifying!



Clothing too? Where could that be seen?
Someone posted some screenshots in here with the player character's shirt having different colored stripes.
 
My favorite exchanges are always this:

"Man, disappointing starters."
"Agreed."
"I can't believe the only good-looking one is Litten."
"Wait, you obviously mean Rowlet, right? Litten sucks."
"Litten is way better looking than Rowlet, are you high?"
"You have crap taste. Rowlet is clearly the best designed. Not all uninspired like the others."
 
Everybody going #TeamLIT... I was part of Froakie master race, never switched and was vindicated

Know what that means?

Rowlet has a healthy team backing and will probably be straight.

Popplio will have best final form with sucky first form.

TeamLit is gonna get shitty final evo / possibly Fire-Fight and have mass exodus to Rowlet and Popplio despite having best first form....

Let me just prepare for the worst, and hope for the best...

I'll be so disappointed. Since Blaziken, all fire starters had cute starting forms (with the exception of Chimchar), and horrible final forms (the worst being Infernape). I'm really hoping that Litten breaks the chain, specially because I love cats so much and would kill for a cool cat starter.
 
Grass seems to be the most popular from what I've seen.

Always seems that way talking to people IRL but I notice here that most popular Grass is Treecko (obviously XD)

People seem to stick with Fire and Water.


Okay..... I don't know if its the hype... but Im starting to come around on Popplio's design... Its just goofy as fuck and I think I like it because of that.

I love the way it poses proud in battle, thats cute.
 
I'm betting Litten will have a final evolution that has active flames on its body.

From its description:
The cool-headed Fire Cat Pokémon, Litten, is the next choice for a first-partner Pokémon. Litten’s fur is rich in oils and is immensely flammable. It constantly grooms itself by licking its coat, collecting loose fur into balls. It then ignites these hairballs to create fireball attacks. When the time comes for Litten to molt, it burns off all of its fur in one glorious blaze.
 
"They look like Digimon"
"The only real ones are the 151"
"Lol overdesigned"
"Lol too simple. Its just a fucking owl"

Man I love new Pokemon Gens...The nostalgia salt is unreal.
 
I like these starters because it seems Gamefreak is portraying their cuteness/personality not by their initial physical looks, but by their animations. Even the starter page on their website has images of the starters moving around in addition to their usual portraits. They may look bland but they nailed their overall personalities.

I wonder if that means they're focusing on how pokemon animation; better idle animations, more attack animations... perhaps some variance based on their natures???

Hoping the clown seal turns into a Pennywise water/fairy abomination <3 <3 <3
 
Brother turn to pick a starter he's gong with the seal & then owl

So I'm left with the kitty

He plays the game until you can first trade me his starter then start the game for reals with his real starter lol

He is a kid by the way I keep his starter till bears 3rd gym he gets me a Pokemon for my team that I want and we make a legit trade

It's cute
 
I just hope I can get my Favorite pokemon during a normal, no internet require way, run.

But thats most likely not gonna happen when its Espeon.
 
All the starters look fine. So many people just come out of the woodwork to call new designs shitty when a new gen gets revealed and then bounce when the game actually comes out, lol.
 
Maybe if 70% of Chesnaught wasn't that horrible beige-like color and was something less bland then it'd be loved. It just was a massive disappointment for a lot of people when the chespin line had real potential for something... something else. :S

Still, i think we'll have a similar situation with litten ending up as obnoxious as delphox, rowlet going to hell and Popplio delivering the badassery.

Much like how people complained about Greninja's "lack of bubble scarf", people miss the idea of Chesnaught's design. He is wearing armor with the ripened chestnut motif. No that is not his bare body - he is literally wearing armor, not just the backshield, and said colors match the chestnut colors which is admittedly bland.

The brown parts of Quilladin/Chespin are inside the armor, much like how the insides of a ripened chestnut is brown. It's one of those "themes that makes sense when you realize how it came from", just like why Altaria's typing is like that.

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Yuck, flaming hairballs.

Popplio's water balloons are snot:

Popplio can snort out balloons made of water! Watch it spin water balloons into a playful battle strategy! Both frivolous and hard-working, Popplio can easily get carried away—unleashing enough power in battle to make quite a spectacle! But Popplio’s determined spirit means it can usually be found practicing hard on its balloon skills.
 
I'll be so disappointed. Since Blaziken, all fire starters had cute starting forms (with the exception of Chimchar), and horrible final forms (the worst being Infernape). I'm really hoping that Litten breaks the chain, specially because I love cats so much and would kill for a cool cat starter.

Hey yo what!? Infernape is damn cool. That smoke has got you all wrong man...
 
Its a starter thread so everyone should post their starter history, Im curious.
First picks?

Kanto - Charmander (Done playthroughs with all starters several times though)
Johto - Cyndaquil (Done playthroughs w/ Cynda or Chikorita several times, Totodile just once)
Hoenn - Treecko (Not sure if I've ever done a Mudkip playthrough - I like Mudkip, but not a fan of later evolution stages)
Sinnoh - Turtwig (Also played with Chimchar, but never completed)
Unova - Snivy (in Black), Oshawott (in Black 2)
Kalos - Fennekin (actually Poké Banked all of them and kept none of them for the full playthrough. Didn't even fully evolve any of them.)
Alola (I don't like this region name) - Rowlet? (Need to see final evolution stages first)


To many damn shapes for the cat. Here is what it should look like.

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That is actually a major improvement IMO.
 
All the starters look fine. So many people just come out of the woodwork to call new designs shitty when a new gen gets revealed and then bounce when the game actually comes out, lol.

This happens every gen I know I used to do it myself I remember when I was the gen 5 Starter I hated them then I was them in the anime and I was like a cute

People don't like change then get used to it
 
I like these starters because it seems Gamefreak is portraying their cuteness/personality not by their initial physical looks, but by their animations. Even the starter page on their website has images of the starters moving around in addition to their usual portraits. They may look bland but they nailed their overall personalities.

I wonder if that means they're focusing on how pokemon animation; better idle animations, more attack animations... perhaps some variance based on their natures???

Hoping the clown seal turns into a Pennywise water/fairy abomination <3 <3 <3

One thing I really liked about this reveal was that they cared to show their quirks and approaches to battle and instead of just posting static art and saying "here's your grass/fire/water, bye".. It helps sell the starters as characters.
 
"They look like Digimon"
"The only real ones are the 151"
"Lol overdesigned"
"Lol too simple. Its just a fucking owl"

Man I love new Pokemon Gens...The nostalgia salt is unreal.

Gen 1 pokemon games are barely playable these days, they need to get over it already
 
So many nostalgia goggles up in this thread. Spoiler alert, the generation with the worst starter lines is
2

I don't understand how anyone can hate on Rowlet, either. It's so adorable. ;-;
 
Yes they are

At least until gen 6

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Rivals are even better (since they have personality plus a good design)

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While I agree VI's male character design leaves a lot to be desired, female Gen VI is top notch and is above the likes of Kris, Lyra, and Dawn. And hell even I think Leaf is plain as fuck.

And please don't tell me you think the rivals in Gen VI are the trio. No, they are your posse. Your rival is the character you didn't pick (Calem/Serena).

"They look like Digimon"
"The only real ones are the 151"
"Lol overdesigned"
"Lol too simple. Its just a fucking owl"

Man I love new Pokemon Gens...The nostalgia salt is unreal.
The irony is that you can pretty much apply what they said against their shit.
 
So since people think that they're going for a more carnival theme for the starters, I wonder if Litten's final evo will have a flaming ring around it to represent a tiger leaping through a fire hoop.
 
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