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[chrono01]

Release for this game is next month, and I'm not even excited anymore. I bet they'll edit the music videos for the pop idols too, such as the one with Tsubasa Oribe in a swimsuit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arl3ACzJCBI - 10:57), seen in the 3/3/2016 Nintendo Direct.

You know, 'cause seeing bare skin will turn all of us into sexual deviants. Thanks for keeping us safe, NoA!

 

[neoemonk]

Puritanism is alive and well in 21 century America.

We love the shit out of our guns though.

 

[Tohsaka]

Release for this game is next month, and I'm not even excited anymore. I bet they'll edit the music videos for the pop idols too, such as the one with Tsubasa Oribe in a swimsuit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arl3ACzJCBI - 10:57), seen in the 3/3/2016 Nintendo Direct.

You know, 'cause seeing bare skin will turn all of us into sexual deviants. Thanks for keeping us safe, NoA!

Yeah, I was really looking forward to the game when it released in Japan, but with all the other games I'm interested in that are releasing next month without needless changes I'm not going to be giving Nintendo my money. I'll buy a used copy or one on eBay or something when modders uncensor it.

 

[Shun]

Great post. I think it's also kinda odd to say that this is an only Japan thing as well. It's not like we don't have swimsuit photo shoots of teenage stars in the west. Hell, I remember Jessica Biel's shoot for Gear magazine when she was 17, anything from that is far worse than whatever you could find in this game.

Well I feel like this point has to be made every single time because people seem to have some kind of selective bias towards one culture's form of entertainment without batting an eye to their own.

Korea has these things, Hong Kong does, Taiwan, all have elements similar to this. Outside of Asia we see stars and idols in the Western world as well.

People see costumes but tend to forget the extravagant costumes and stage props that singers and idols like Beyonce and Katy Perry wear for their performances and music videos. A lot of these people have found success doing different things before sticking to an entertainment niche they're most known for.

Channing Tatum being an example of a Western gravure model turned into actor.

Some of these entertainers may not be as all encompassing, but it is there and it is difficult to understand why people aren't looking at the bigger picture.

The developers really did put a lot of effort and attention to detail to every aspect of the motif and theme they wanted to center the game around and they really knocked that out of the ballpark in that aspect.

The game is very good. It has issues, which can be found in the import OT of the thread, but it does deserve the praise it gets as a game. I'm making comments from my time and experience playing through the game to help give readers a better understanding of what to really expect.

 

[bishopcruz]

None of those games you mentioned have a cutesy anime aesthetic. And of the borderline cases (FE, Fatal Frame), they edited those games too. There's a big difference between "Here's a sexy adult female (Bayonetta)" and "Here's a cartoon with a bunch of sexualized teenage girls."

Oh please. Anime is well known here as an aesthetic, and it is known that it isn't all for kids. We aren't living in the 1980s anymore. It's not even THAT cutesy.

I dunno, considering the games that you say were a huge influence on you and whose style you pay homage to, I assume you lived through the 1990s at least, a time when changes like these were common, and quite unwelcome. Localizers did the best they could then, but Nintendo especially went out of its way to remove even the slightest thing that could be considered objectionable, and the games suffered for it. Or, in cases like Phantasy Star 3 and 4, we got name and story changes that were done in order to make the games more palatable in the west. Crosses removed in Castlevania, bikinis removed in FF4. That of course was just the tip of the iceberg. It was crap then, and gamers and the press together stood up against it, generally based on how stupid and insulting to the intelligence of gamers it was.

Now we're getting weak apologia: "Nintendo has reasons." "They can do what they want." "It's not that bad."

Censors always have reasons. They can pretty much always do what they want. And how important a change is will vary from person to person.

None of those are arguments as to the merit of the change. Hell, the best defense I think I have seen in this thread based on the merits of what was done has been something like: "That's dumb, but whatever, I'll still but it." or "Great. That stuff is gross".

 

[KingBroly]

If Nintendo wants to avoid issues like this, they should make a shadow company/separate brand to release games like this so they can look squeaky clean for their Mario-based, family-friendly imagery.

It'd also give them freedom to create more games outside of their SATURATED COLOR-heavy games.

 

[Eolz]

If Nintendo wants to avoid issues like this, they should make a shadow company/separate brand to release games like this so they can look squeaky clean for their Mario-based, family-friendly imagery.

It'd also give them freedom to create more games outside of their SATURATED COLOR-heavy games.

This would be good, but this would also be better if they just didn't act like they were still in the 90s.
Every company evolves and has different stuff for different audiences, even the more young audience oriented ones. They should just step into the 21st century.

 

[TheRook]

I appreciate the posts by Shun, very enlightening towards the development of the game, I remember during the treehouse footage they said they did their homework but I didn't know to what extent...now I know it was a lot.

The most disappointing thing to me is the removal of the cultural aspect of the game. This game in a lot of ways could have been a interesting way for players to see the Japanese entertainment business. As someone who does like Tokusatsu, I'm actually interested in playing through Touma's side missions. It seems that most of his stuff is still intact.

 

[Gaiaknight]

played my friend import copy for about 6 hours and after playing it my hype is through the roof for the game i can easily look past the little changes since the gameplay is fantastic and cause they changes dont bother me much like fates, fatal frame and xenoblade changes didnt bother me.

 

[Robert at Zeboyd Games]

I dunno, considering the games that you say were a huge influence on you and whose style you pay homage to, I assume you lived through the 1990s at least, a time when changes like these were common, and quite unwelcome. Localizers did the best they could then, but Nintendo especially went out of its way to remove even the slightest thing that could be considered objectionable, and the games suffered for it. Or, in cases like Phantasy Star 3 and 4, we got name and story changes that were done in order to make the games more palatable in the west. Crosses removed in Castlevania, bikinis removed in FF4. That of course was just the tip of the iceberg. It was crap then, and gamers and the press together stood up against it, generally based on how stupid and insulting to the intelligence of gamers it was.

It's because I lived through the 80s and 90s that I think the outcry here is pretty ridiculous. This isn't Persona 1 where they changed huge parts of the story, setting, and characters and cut out many hours of gameplay by removing an entire alternate storyline. This isn't Breath of Fire 2 where the game's plot was censored and/or badly translated to the point of being mostly unintelligible.

What are they doing here? They're making a few outfits more modest, upped the age of characters slightly so they're young adults instead of teenagers, and other minor stuff like changing the position of somebody sleeping. They removed the option for consumers to pay extra money to get swimsuit costumes & watch a few minutes of characters talking to each other in a hot spring (which you can just watch on youtube if you really care that much). That's pretty much it. The gameplay's intact. The plot is intact.

In the 90's, there's no way on earth a game like Tokyo Mirage Sessions would even be considered for localization - just look at Sakura Taisen. It was one of Sega's major RPG series and it took a whopping 14 years before anyone thought it was worth the risk to localize one of the games into English. Not only are we getting an English version of Tokyo Mirage Sessions, but it's even going to be in the original Japanese and as far as I know, the music isn't getting cut out for licensing reasons. So yes, I'm grateful that Nintendo hasn't cancelled the game's NA release outright and if they want to change a few minor things to lower their risk of controversy and increase the (very slight) chance that this game might take off among a general RPG/gaming audience, I'm fine with that.

 

[kunonabi]

It's because I lived through the 80s and 90s that I think the outcry here is pretty ridiculous. This isn't Persona 1 where they changed huge parts of the story, setting, and characters and cut out many hours of gameplay by removing an entire alternate storyline. This isn't Breath of Fire 2 where the game's plot was censored and/or badly translated to the point of being mostly unintelligible.

What are they doing here? They're making a few outfits more modest, upped the age of characters slightly so they're young adults instead of teenagers, and other minor stuff like changing the position of somebody sleeping. They removed the option for consumers to pay extra money to get swimsuit costumes & watch a few minutes of characters talking to each other in a hot spring (which you can just watch on youtube if you really care that much). That's pretty much it. The gameplay's intact. The plot is intact.

In the 90's, there's no way on earth a game like Tokyo Mirage Sessions would even be considered for localization - just look at Sakura Taisen. Not only are we getting an English version of this game, but it's even going to be in the original Japanese and as far as I know, the music isn't getting cut out for licensing reasons. So yes, I'm grateful that Nintendo hasn't cancelled the game's NA release outright and if they want to change a few minor things to lower their risk of controversy and increase the (very slight) chance that this game might take off among a general RPG/gaming audience, I'm fine with that.

Except the plot isn't intact and the DLC on youtube is going to be in Japanese.

 

[SeanTSC]

It's because I lived through the 80s and 90s that I think the outcry here is pretty ridiculous. This isn't Persona 1 where they changed huge parts of the story, setting, and characters and cut out many hours of gameplay by removing an entire alternate storyline. This isn't Breath of Fire 2 where the game's plot was censored and/or badly translated to the point of being mostly unintelligible.

What are they doing here? They're making a few outfits more modest, upped the age of characters slightly so they're young adults instead of teenagers, and other minor stuff like changing the position of somebody sleeping. They removed the option for consumers to pay extra money to get swimsuit costumes & watch a few minutes of characters talking to each other in a hot spring (which you can just watch on youtube if you really care that much). That's pretty much it. The gameplay's intact. The plot is intact.

In the 90's, there's no way on earth a game like Tokyo Mirage Sessions would even be considered for localization - just look at Sakura Taisen. Not only are we getting an English version of this game, but it's even going to be in the original Japanese and as far as I know, the music isn't getting cut out for licensing reasons.

The lengths you go to keep apologizing for this insulting nonsense that Nintendo keeps doing is extraordinary.

Come on, this is not that simple. As someone else brought up, this is pretty much like if they changed the Sauna and Strip Club dungeons in Persona 4 - it hurts the game and it hurts the characters. There would have been a huge outcry had they done that. It's not minor to me. The more Nintendo keeps treating me like I can't handle what someone in Japan makes just because I'm American the more I'm going to stop buying their products.

I won't buy this, I didn't buy FE Fates, and I didn't buy Bravely Second. And I am dead serious when I say that their behavior is affecting whether I buy an NX or not. This has gone too far and I will stop supporting them as a company because of it. I will ward any friends and acquaintances I have away from them as well.

 

[Vena]

The lengths you go to keep apologizing for this insulting nonsense that Nintendo keeps doing is extraordinary.

Can't really say I understand how we've reached "insulting". Bizarre, sure, but I can't say I can understand being insulted by this.

 

[Kaiterra]

Fanservice in most Japanese RPGs these days is not an artistic choice. It's a calculated business decision to attract the Japanese otaku demographic. Just like toning it down to try to attract a more general RPG audience outside of Japan is a business decision.

God, this really can't be stressed enough.

Except the plot isn't intact

What of the plot is missing?

 

[kunonabi]

Can't really say I understand how we've reached "insulting". Bizarre, sure, but I can't say I can understand being insulted by this.

changing story beats, removing character customization options, gameplay modes, and DLC options is pretty insulting especially when your audience is dwindling to your core fans and those fans are getting pretty much squat for the next year.

 

[Robert at Zeboyd Games]

the DLC on youtube is going to be in Japanese.

We're talking a few minutes of dialogue. If there's not already a video with subtitles up, it won't be long.

The lengths you go to keep apologizing for this insulting nonsense that Nintendo keeps doing is extraordinary.

I'm similarly baffled by how much complaining some people are doing about this. Even if you disagree with Nintendo's choice, at best, this whole thing should be a mild annoyance.

As someone else brought up, this is pretty much like if they changed the Sauna and Strip Club dungeons in Persona 4 - it hurts the game and it hurts the characters.

But they didn't cut the dungeon, they just tweaked some of the art. Do you think Persona 4's strip club dungeon would have been improved by changing the highly stylized boss into something more explicit warranting an AO rating?

gameplay modes

What gameplay modes are missing from the English version of the game?

 

[Gaiaknight]

Fanservice in most Japanese RPGs these days is not an artistic choice. It's a calculated business decision to attract the Japanese otaku demographic. Just like toning it down to try to attract a more general RPG audience outside of Japan is a business decision.

yep and thats what currently turning me off of alot of jrpg these days and almost made me stop supporting the fire emblem series i dont care about having to dress all the damn young girls in very skimpy clothing and if im being honest it bugs the hell out of me. Im also all for making a game appeal to a wider audience even if it means slight changes sometimes. To add to this is also a game i will not be playing in front of my kids.

 

[SeanTSC]

Can't really say I understand how we've reached "insulting". Bizarre, sure, but I can't say I can understand being insulted by this.

Because they're being very discriminatory. That they're censoring and cutting content just because of the region that I live in and the language that I speak and holding the full version of the game hostage behind being Japanese is insulting to me. I'm sick of it and it's ridiculous. They're saying that Japanese people can handle it, but anyone else can't.

Not to mention Bravely Second, which is deeply personally offensive to me. My dad grew up on a reservation and that was my life growing up, not church like most of you. They changed a Native American motif to a fucking Cowboy of all things. It was a shitty, sexualized representation, sure, but I'll take anything I can get because it's almost non-existent in games. So they erased that and replaced it with a symbol of the people who committed horrible atrocities. It's basically changing a Jewish character to a Nazi.

So yeah, I've been pissed at them for a while, and I hold NoA responsible.

 

[Ridley327]

If Nintendo wants to avoid issues like this, they should make a shadow company/separate brand to release games like this so they can look squeaky clean for their Mario-based, family-friendly imagery.

It'd also give them freedom to create more games outside of their SATURATED COLOR-heavy games.

If it's that much of an issue for them, they'd probably do well to open up their licensing to interested third party publishers. XSeed did really well with The Last Story and Pandora's Tower (and was heavily hinted at being Devil's Third publisher until NoA overreacted to the backlash), and Nintendo already has a history of working with Atlus, though on considerably smaller scale titles like Cubivore and Polarium Advance.

 

[kunonabi]

We're talking a few minutes of dialogue. If there's not already a video with subtitles up, it won't be long.

You can probably find some playing the snow queen quest from Persona 1 too, doesn't make them ripping it out any better.

But they didn't cut the dungeon, they just tweaked some of the art. Do you think Persona 4's strip club dungeon would have been improved by changing the highly stylized boss into something more explicit warranting an AO rating?

The tone and concept behind her character development is completely different.

What gameplay mode is missing from the English version of the game?

That is in reference to Fire Emblem Fates since I was talking about their recent string of censorship actions.

 

[Tohsaka]

yep and thats what currently turning me off of alot of jrpg these days and almost made me stop supporting the fire emblem series i dont care about having to dress all the damn young girls in very skimpy clothing and if im being honest it bugs the hell out of me. Im also all for making a game appeal to a wider audience even if it means slight changes sometimes. To add to this is also a game i will not be playing in front of my kids.

There's no way these changes will make the game appeal to a wider audience, because it doesn't have an English dub and is ultra-niche to begin with. NoA would have had to completely rework the game and dub it if they wanted it to have broad appeal.

 

[Vena]

Because they're being very discriminatory. That they're censoring and cutting content just because of the region that I live in and the language that I speak and holding the full version of the game hostage behind being Japanese is insulting to me. I'm sick of it and it's ridiculous. They're saying that Japanese people can handle it, but anyone else can't.

I mean, if that's your take on it that's fine but I am not going to lie when I say that I think this is effectively saying that you hate all localizations.

Molding a product for a market is what it is, it doesn't mean they think "you can't handle it", it means the market may not respond well to it.

Not to mention Bravely Second, which is deeply personally offensive to me. My dad grew up on a reservation and that was my life growing up, not church like most of you. They changed a Native American motif to a fucking Cowboy of all things. It was a shitty, sexualized representation, sure, but I'll take anything I can get because it's almost non-existent in games. So they erased that and replaced it with a symbol of the people who committed horrible atrocities. It's basically changing a Jewish character to a Nazi.

So yeah, I've been pissed at them for a while, and I hold NoA responsible.

Blaming the wrong party on that one.

changing story beats, removing character customization options, gameplay modes, and DLC options is pretty insulting especially when your audience is dwindling to your core fans and those fans are getting pretty much squat for the next year.

I can't say anything on "story beats" as I have no yet seen the change from the original, but I would be surprised if the beat was actually changed rather than the framing device/characterization used. Changing story beats is a lot harder to do with just localization changes unless they completely boulderized it. For instance, FFV may have been toned down but the story beat was intact but the framing device was less heavy-handed, this could be said to have impacted the weight of the scene to a degree but it doesn't change the actual beat/meaning of the narrative.

That said, what gameplay content have they removed?

 

[dakkumauji]

We're talking a few minutes of dialogue. If there's not already a video with subtitles up, it won't be long.

Yep, I'm glad people will have to depend on others and youtube to see a part of the game, DLC or not. Thanks Nintendo.

I'm similarly baffled by how much complaining some people are doing about this. Even if you disagree with Nintendo's choice, at best, this whole thing should be a mild annoyance.

You think its a mild annoyance.
Others don't. Handwaving away their opinion doesn't make it any better.

But they didn't cut the dungeon, they just tweaked some of the art. Do you think Persona 4's strip club dungeon would have been improved by changing the highly stylized boss into something more explicit warranting an AO rating?

Nintendo isn't changing stuff to reach a higher rating. They are basically toning down anything they deem teens in the west can't handle.
Based off the changes we seen, they would change the theme of the dungeon into probably like a dance club, more fog on the boss and explicitly toning down the dialogue.

 

[SeanTSC]

Blaming the wrong party on that one.

Nope, Nintendo is the publisher for the west and ultimately responsible for it.

 

[Vena]

Nope, Nintendo is the publisher for the west and ultimately responsible for it.

They are responsible for an internal localization done by SE's own staff for which they were never mentioned or referenced?

 

[SeanTSC]

They are responsible for an internal localization done by SE's own staff for which they were never mentioned or referenced?

Yeah, because they oversaw the release of it in NA. In the end, the blame is on them for letting that through. And frankly, I don't believe that it wasn't at their direction after the changes to FE Fates and TMS. It reeks of the same shit.

 

[Tohsaka]

They are responsible for an internal localization done by SE's own staff for which they were never mentioned or referenced?

SE didn't localize Bravely Default/Second internally, Binari Sonari did.

 

[Vena]

SE didn't localize Bravely Default/Second internally, Binari Sonari did.

Ahh I thought it had their staff on the credits for localization as well as BSonari. I will have to recheck later.

Yeah, because they oversaw the release of it in NA. In the end, the blame is on them for letting that through. And frankly, I don't believe that it wasn't at their direction after the changes to FE Fates and TMS. It reeks of the same shit.

Nintendo will generally note when they actually localize a project or affect its localization. They can publish/distribute and not be the localizers or even do much of anything other than marketing, see: Monster Hunter.

 

[Ridley327]

SE didn't localize Bravely Default/Second internally, Binari Sonari did.

Squenix was the project manager. They frequently use external studios for a lot of their projects, but they're very hands on throughout. I know that Plus Alpha (the guys that work on DQ) have to run things by not only Squenix, but with Horii himself.

I know 8-4 tried desperately to get Squenix and Tri-Ace on board with a more loose localization for Star Ocean 4, but it was to no avail and, well, we got Star Ocean 4.

 

[TheRook]

yep and thats what currently turning me off of alot of jrpg these days and almost made me stop supporting the fire emblem series i dont care about having to dress all the damn young girls in very skimpy clothing and if im being honest it bugs the hell out of me. Im also all for making a game appeal to a wider audience even if it means slight changes sometimes. To add to this is also a game i will not be playing in front of my kids.

It sounds like JRPG's these days aren't for you....

Honestly speaking I don't like it when people say things should be changed/censored to suit their taste :/

 

[Uthred]

The idea that these changes are "to reach a wider audience" is so laughable that I honestly can't believe anyone is actually advancing it as a reasonable argument. These changes aren't going to make the game any less niche, no-one wanted to buy the game but decided not to because they saw a halter top rather than something more modest. These changes are because the publisher doesnt want their name popping up in a hundred clickbait article titles, thats it.

 

[Gaiaknight]

It sounds like JRPG's these days aren't for you....

Honestly speaking I don't like it when people say things should be changed/censored to suit their taste :/

sadly it seems that way thankfully some games have it very minor and i can easily look past it im super excited for FF15, DQ11, KH3, pokemon sun and moon, DQ7 & 8, star ocean 5. Im not saying chage alot to the point where its a 100% different game between japanese and american release but little things are ok imo. I know it not a popular opinion on the internet but i stand by it as some stuff i just wouldnt want my kids to exposed to that arent even teenagers yet.

 

[Shun]

sadly it seems that way thankfully some games have it very minor and i can easily look past it im super excited for FF15, DQ11, KH3, pokemon sun and moon, DQ7 & 8, star ocean 5. Im not saying chage alot to the point where its a 100% different game between japanese and american release but little things are ok imo. I know it not a popular opinion on the internet but i stand by it as some stuff i just wouldnt want my kids to exposed to that arent even teenagers yet.

Well thankfully this game is very minor about it and there are dozens of skin free costumes to choose from in the game. Much more costume options than your Tales game.

Each character gets at least 8-10+ costumes that you can choose from for battle sequences and in game.

I hope you do give the game a chance in the future if you choose to do so, the game was rated for kids 12+ and the content definitely reflects that especially with it's coming of age story. The game itself is pretty inoffensive and really sticks to the theme throughout.

A very positive story and message that follows character maturation and development in the industry.

 

[Gaiaknight]

Well thankfully this game is very minor about it and there are dozens of skin free costumes to choose from in the game. Much more costume options than your Tales game.

Each character gets at least 8-10+ costumes that you can choose from for battle sequences and in game.

I hope you do give the game a chance in the future if you choose to do so, the game was rated for kids 12+ and the content definitely reflects that especially with it's coming of age story. The game itself is pretty inoffensive and really sticks to the theme throughout.

A very positive story and message that follows character maturation and development in the industry.

i played my friends import copy for 6hrs i was hooked after the second dungeon im in love with the mirage designs for the characters and the music is extremely catch so yes i will be getting it when it comes out next month

 

[ShinNatsume]

sadly it seems that way thankfully some games have it very minor and i can easily look past it im super excited for FF15, DQ11, KH3, pokemon sun and moon, DQ7 & 8, star ocean 5. Im not saying chage alot to the point where its a 100% different game between japanese and american release but little things are ok imo. I know it not a popular opinion on the internet but i stand by it as some stuff i just wouldnt want my kids to exposed to that arent even teenagers yet.

If it just would be NA only censorship i wouldnt probably care that much but i as german citizen have to live with these changes too.

 

[TheRook]

sadly it seems that way thankfully some games have it very minor and i can easily look past it im super excited for FF15, DQ11, KH3, pokemon sun and moon, DQ7 & 8, star ocean 5. Im not saying chage alot to the point where its a 100% different game between japanese and american release but little things are ok imo. I know it not a popular opinion on the internet but i stand by it as some stuff i just wouldnt want my kids to exposed to that arent even teenagers yet.

It's how you worded it. It make it come off as "I don't like creepy anime shit."

It made it sound like you don't want to play these games unless they are altered for the western market. Which is why I said what I did. If Loli's wearing skimpy clothes bug the hell out of you, Most JRPG's aren't for you because that's what sells right now. Wanting that changed is no more selfish than someone asking for the opposite of wanting it to stay the same.

 

[Trojita]

sadly it seems that way thankfully some games have it very minor and i can easily look past it im super excited for FF15, DQ11, KH3, pokemon sun and moon, DQ7 & 8, star ocean 5. Im not saying chage alot to the point where its a 100% different game between japanese and american release but little things are ok imo. I know it not a popular opinion on the internet but i stand by it as some stuff i just wouldnt want my kids to exposed to that arent even teenagers yet.

About that Star Ocean 5 though....

 

[Gaiaknight]

It's how you worded it. It make it come off as "I don't like creepy anime shit."

It made it sound like you don't want to play these games unless they are altered for the western market. Which is why I said what I did. If Loli's wearing skimpy clothes bug the hell out of you, Most JRPG's aren't for you because that's what sells right now. Wanting that changed is no more selfish than someone asking for the opposite of wanting it to stay the same.

yeai really didnt mean for it to come off that way while i do find some it uncomfortable i would really hate if they removed everything from a game associated with it especially if it drastically changes a games story. i will use fatal frame 5 even though it was minor change as an example while the scene they changed kind of had the same emotional feel to it but had they kept the way her clothes were it would have had an even more emotional feel to it.

Yes i know most jrpg are for me nowadays which is why i only play certain franchises at this point i have jsut gotten to the point in life where i look at thigns as a parent instead of a gamer and i know there is some stuff i definitely wouldnt want my 8 year old daughter to see in a game.

About that Star Ocean 5 though....

star ocean 5 isnt too bad and as being a huge fan of the series since the first game i will look past it because im hyped for the game.

 

[bbkkristian]

Release for this game is next month, and I'm not even excited anymore. I bet they'll edit the music videos for the pop idols too, such as the one with Tsubasa Oribe in a swimsuit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arl3ACzJCBI - 10:57), seen in the 3/3/2016 Nintendo Direct.

You know, 'cause seeing bare skin will turn all of us into sexual deviants. Thanks for keeping us safe, NoA!

Yeah, I cancelled my preorder. Its a shame, tbh. But, I am very unhappy with the situation and I chose to vote with my wallet for this one.

 

[Trojita]

star ocean 5 isnt too bad and as being a huge fan of the series since the first game i will look past it because im hyped for the game.

Well then you really are being selective. Tittywitch is a character's fan nickname.

 

[Astral Dog]

Being weird prudes by removing bikinis and altering a middle-aged woman's position on a couch is a Nintendo problem, not something to wake up to. Sorry thumb, but it's true.

Nintendo wasn't even like this for a long time either, it's them regressing, not anyone's opinion changing.

could this be a NoA change or a slightly different corporate policy by the new president?

 

[SeanTSC]

Well then you really are being selective. Tittywitch is a character's fan nickname.

I fucking love that Tittywitch caught on as a name. Soon as I saw her that was the first thing outta my mouth.

 

[To Far Away Times]

Is this one of those games where you get put on an FBI watchlist if you buy it?

 

[Ridley327]

could this be a NoA change or a slightly different corporate policy by the new president?

Fatal Frame 5 was all NoE and those changes have been consistent with what we've been seeing, so I think we can say it's not an NoA change.

 

[Tohsaka]

Is this one of those games where you get put on an FBI watchlist if you buy it?

Yes, this T-rated, Nintendo-published game with 18 year old characters is going to put you on an FBI watchlist.

 

[Valkerionseven]

snip

Yup. As someone who likes Japanese media and idols here in Japan and Korea for that matter, it was pretty exciting to see not only a SMT style game, but one about Japanese media/idols getting localized. After seeing the changes, for no reason really... it just bothers me. Mostly because other entries in the SMT and extended universes like Persona include these things with characters of similar age. Why change it now. Probably would have minded less if it were another theme honestly.

If Nintendo was expecting this games characters and songs to be the next break out thing and changed it to "better suit the west" its a laughable pipe dream. Slap an M rating on it and call it a day if it bothers them that much.

Oh well, might wait on this one like others.

 

[bishopcruz]

Is this one of those games where you get put on an FBI watchlist if you buy it?

Well, not anymore.

 

[shadow2810]

Is this one of those games where you get put on an FBI watchlist if you buy it?

Did you make the same comment when they published FE:A with Nowi in it?

 

[KratosEnergyDrink]

It seems the changes for this localisation are very minor and doesn't affect the story or characters.

Yeah, I cancelled my preorder. Its a shame, tbh. But, I am very unhappy with the situation and I chose to vote with my wallet for this one.

If this game not sells well, they will probably not bother to localize similar games.

 

[Astral Dog]

Fatal Frame 5 was all NoE and those changes have been consistent with what we've been seeing, so I think we can say it's not an NoA change.

hmm, a bit worrying for future games then ;/