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Civilization 6 announced, out October 21st
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Pagusas
Elden Member
How does one "finish" Civ?
AstuteClass
Banned
You know what... despite my bitching earlier in this thread, who am I kidding? I'm going to get wrapped up in the buzz of the launch of this game and get it anyway. And being that it's built from the ground up with mods in mind, there'll likely be a realism patch before too long after launch.
you nuke everyone and create global warming
I thought I would eventually start warming up to the new art style, but it's not happening.
Everything just looks too..."smooth" and toy like. I mean, the mountains in Civ IV (released over a decade ago) are more textured and detailed than the mountains in Civ VI...
This is true but even art style aside, the graphics in Civ VI are straight up awful for a PC exclusive game in 2016. Hell, the graphics would have been terrible a year or two ago even.
AstuteClass
Banned
One thing I hope they bring back is the ability to halt all research in this game. They took that away in Civ V, and you researched whether you wanted to or not. I hated on easier modes how you jetted ahead of other civs in tech, when you might have only wanted to take your time and test out each tech when first playing the game.
Huw_Dawson
Member
The game having a simple graphics style could well be an attempt to pull a Maxis and make a game which runs on a toaster.
If that was a specific design choice then I have no problem with it.
Graphics mods are 100% a thing for Civ anyway, so people can make beautifying things. On Steam Workshop, even.
If that was a specific design choice then I have no problem with it.
Graphics mods are 100% a thing for Civ anyway, so people can make beautifying things. On Steam Workshop, even.
I am really hoping the art style is improved in motion because I cant believe how bad those screens look. Even next to Civ IV they look bad.
DeviantBoi
Member
What's the name of the song in the trailer?
I've heard it before, I'm sure.
I've heard it before, I'm sure.
Orochinagis
Member
Aztecs are still in the game?
Whom_Gods_Annoy
Banned
Here is one of the screens reworked I found.
I'd be lying if I said that didn't look better.
I'd be lying if I said that didn't look better.
That does look better: still readable, a bit more fidelity. Nice.
But, as I said before, it's graphics in a Civ game. I couldn't really muster enough damns to give.
Very bottom for sure.
Platinumstorm
Member
Adagio in D minor.
I hope I like it better than 5. 5 made some good changes but fumbled a lot imo. I hope this builds off 5 in a positive direction.SpiceMelange
Member
For you maybe.
I disagree. Just because you play Civ with a low priority on art doesn't mean others do. I like to get lost in the world/gamestate I'm playing through, imagining that these are real civilizations and alternate histories. Beautiful art helps build that feeling of "presence" in the gameworld.
Much of the best and most evocative pieces of Civ's art direction have had little to do with the worldmap at all, such as to do with the tech tree, wonders, UI, and so on. Density of detail on the worldmap is not an intrinsic good.
Orthogonal
Member
Here is one of the screens reworked I found.
I'd be lying if I said that didn't look better.
It's an improvement.
I guess we just need to wait for a more standard view with a zoomed out shot and hexes turned on. Hopefully we get a good look at E3.
AstuteClass
Banned
Here is one of the screens reworked I found.
I'd be lying if I said that didn't look better.
Is that a fan edit or an official rework? Please be the latter!
StrategyFan
Member
the people who like the art style don't care about mentioning it because it's not an unexpected look for civ
civ is known for being cheery, uplifting, colorful, even cartoonish
same with age of empires / age of mythology
the people complaining that the art style doesn't fit a civ game have probably never played a civ game before civ5.
if you don't like the art style and didn't like the art style of previous civ games, that's fine. but the art style is not some great departure for the series
Definitely not official.
Orthogonal
Member
Maybe there will be a nice fan mod overhaul and everyone will be happy.
Whom_Gods_Annoy
Banned
If nothing else, they have discussed how their new engine for this game was designed to be much more mod-friendly than Civ V.
Nope, sorry, just a fan edit. Source.
FarFromAnyGame
Banned
Here is one of the screens reworked I found.
I'd be lying if I said that didn't look better.
It looks way better. Sharp, stylized and detailed at the same time. I'm sure someone will mod it to look like this. They have my thanks and donation in advance.
I will forever love the developers of AoW3 for patching in honest-to-god UI scaling. If only Paradox would do the same.
LurkerPrime
Member
The graphics aren't my favourite, but I imagine the visual *pop* will help a lot with map readability when actually playing Civ6. Hopefully the days of using tooltips to identify everything piled onto a hex are behind us, now. Plus, depending on how much biome variety there is, it could lead to some really nice looking world maps, especially with multi-hex civ cities covering the landscape.
Not sure what to think about the tech changes. It'll either be great or a disaster, depending on how much it binds the player. Like, the devs mention how they want to push people out of their tech path rut, but if that just leads to If Mountains, Then X; or If Seaside, Then X, it'll be the same binary problem, only in a different form. It will also inadvertently homogenise the different civs, assuming UUs, UBs, and civ abilities function as in previous games, bound to specific playstyles.
Thirding Fourthing this mention. Great game! One of my favourite 4Xes of the last few years.
It's time to put the hyperbole down before someone gets hurt.
Not sure what to think about the tech changes. It'll either be great or a disaster, depending on how much it binds the player. Like, the devs mention how they want to push people out of their tech path rut, but if that just leads to If Mountains, Then X; or If Seaside, Then X, it'll be the same binary problem, only in a different form. It will also inadvertently homogenise the different civs, assuming UUs, UBs, and civ abilities function as in previous games, bound to specific playstyles.
I thought I would eventually start warming up to the new art style, but it's not happening.
Everything just looks too..."smooth" and toy like. I mean, the mountains in Civ IV (released over a decade ago) are more textured and detailed than the mountains in Civ VI...
It's time to put the hyperbole down before someone gets hurt.
Fattony12000
Member
really did love the art deco styled ui fixtures and fittings in 5 tho
What's with the crazy price? It's £16 more than I paid for the last game at release and god knows the last 2 games were pretty poor until the (not so cheap) expansions sorted things out.
Was ready to pick it up with the controller but £50 for a Base civ game is nuts. What's the justification for it?
Was ready to pick it up with the controller but £50 for a Base civ game is nuts. What's the justification for it?
Probably that they have all the systems in place this time round from prior games, all tweaked a bit for this along with the new mechanics - that and they know they Civ fans will bite for more Civ - which is a shit justification since I am also not willing to spend that much - but if the people I trust review it and receive it exceptionally well (unlike previous games), then my dumb arse will end up buying it...
RenegadeXV8
Banned
I just hope Firaxis adds DX12/Vulkan support.
Beyond Earth on Mantle was insanely smooth compared to DX11.
Beyond Earth on Mantle was insanely smooth compared to DX11.
Thanks, I can already tell I'm going to love them by what I've seen. I think I'm going to play both waiting for the first DLC of Civ6, starting with Endless Legends. After years of Civilization, Total War and Age of Empires, fresh air is more than welcome.
Here is one of the screens reworked I found.
I'd be lying if I said that didn't look better.
Comparison with the original image -
It looks much better. More textured, gritty surfaces and dialed back color saturation is all it takes.
Hopefully Firaxis makes adjustments. If not, there will surely be a mod that does.
Pagusas
Elden Member
Comparison with the original image -
It looks much better. More textured, gritty surfaces and dialed back color saturation is all it takes.
Hopefully Firaxis makes adjustments. If not, there will surely be a mod that does.
He'll other than the tilt shift filter, a simple reshape filter will achieve the better colors.
NobleXenon
Member
Ah, I noticed they're still using hexagons. I was hoping they would do octagons.
Palculator
Unconfirmed Member
But you can't tile octagons like that? They pack in a way squares would, effectively giving you four immediate neighbours, as opposed to the six of hexagons:
Unless you made them have varying angles at which point it would look wonky like the right one.
BigWeather
Member
Maybe I'm crazy, but I prefer Firaxis' version to the retouched one. =/
Not the only one. Traded visual clarity for grit and nonsensical DoF.
decoyplatypus
Member
This is the more important issue for me. I don't mind much about the map, but I want the UI to be pretty again (in addition to being functional). Civ 5's was slick.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Comparison with the original image -
It looks much better. More textured, gritty surfaces and dialed back color saturation is all it takes.
Hopefully Firaxis makes adjustments. If not, there will surely be a mod that does.
Most of the differences I'm seeing are a slightly more washed out color palette and the tilt shift.
The only detail change is to the mountains, which I agree look better, but I prefer the brighter colors of the first pic, so it's kind of a wash.