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Gran Turismo Sport Unveiling live stream discussion (incl. FIA Championship gameplay)
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I still want to know if the questions have been vetted.
Both games doing completely different things entirely, but yeah.
MaxwellParrish
Member
From what I'm seeing of the Tokyo Expressway montage previously posted, it doesn't seem capped at all at 30 but it goes all way up to 60fr (well, 50 actually) when the camera is following a snigle car (you can look at it around 1'49" to see it doing). On the other side, it does seem to drop under the 30 (25) even if it's unclear why.
I still don't understand why people seems so eager to dissects what it's pretty clearly a quite early version of the game with missing animation, effects and probably a good bunch of texture that are still placeholder.
Mr. Crow
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TheAdmiester
Member
Models are same in gameplay and replay. (from DF article about GT6)
That's a standard car, I wouldn't expect any change with those.
Premium cars might be upgraded, I bet the tessellation is maybe stronger in replays.
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
Vetted or not, we're getting a bunch of worthless questions and answers, no meaty stuff will come from this Q&A session.
Looks totally different.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
First video that's made me have faith in the game, looks pretty solid and smooth, just hoping something gets done with the sounds and collisions.
Mr. Crow
Member
I don't know about tessellation, but if you look at a car from same angle in gameplay and replay, they have same quality. here's a premium car:
Digital Foundry: What if you could play GT6 in-game with replay playback quality? Before it was patched, replay theatre gave you a preview. While lighting, car models and anti-aliasing remain unchanged, a phenomenal motion blur makes a massive difference. Toned back a touch, we'd love to have this in-game at 1080p60 on PlayStation 4.
wowbaggerBR
Member
Placeholders.
The shadow draw distance on the trees is hilarious...
They should delay the november 2016 release, to november 2022.
I don't know about tessellation, but if you look at a car from same angle in gameplay and replay, they have same quality. here's a premium car:
Digital Foundry: What if you could play GT6 in-game with replay playback quality? Before it was patched, replay theatre gave you a preview. While lighting, car models and anti-aliasing remain unchanged, a phenomenal motion blur makes a massive difference. Toned back a touch, we'd love to have this in-game at 1080p60 on PlayStation 4.
Yeah they use additional effects and filter in replay mode but there are no differences in "assets quality" ( track detail etc.).
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
GT doesn't change models in replay.
There is some serious pop out in the rear mirror but the performance seems stable at least.
Ok, there is also pop in in play. Everything else can hardly be judged as compression kills details so it can turn out either way.
The tree pop in on the left hand side.
I'm hoping Assetto Corsa is what I'm after. Sounds promising and they've got a nice range if cars, the kind of which you'd expect from a good GT game (minus the useless Honda Jazz or whatever crap GT inexplicably makes you drive).
I'm sorry but GT Sport is way too little way too late. Their releases have been seriously puzzling. GT6 should have been cross gen with a PS4 release, it just was a no brainer and they should have the capacity to do it. They work so esoterically and so slowly, and completely blind deaf and dumb to what is happening with other sims, both PC and now even competing console ones. It's now just sad they're so far behind.
Kaz looked so pleased with himself yesterday and frankly I now fully believe that they just live in a bubble at PD. No idea what they've been spending their time doing. This is like a stripped down GT6 with little new to the table and a lot of old flaws coming along for the ride.
Game looks ok, but it should be doing more, but worst of all stuff like collisions look no better than GT5, which probably was no better than GT4... I mean c'mon. The car movement in general just isn't as convincing as other sims like Project Cars. They're years behind.
And those sounds. There's just no excuse for how flat and quiet and unconvincing those sounds are in a modern AAA quality racing game these days. It's embarrassing. I'm actually embarrassed for them. GT should be the pinnacle of these games, they have the budget, the support from Sony, the brand and legacy... yet they're literally treading water and taking forever to do it.
I'm at a loss now. I really have lost faith in them. Sure GTS will have some enjoyable driving on great tracks. It will look decent when doing that. But everything else feels so archaic and behind the curve now. Argh! Someone please kick them up the arse and sort them out.
Everyone needs to see this.
Can also see that they've upped the grid count to 20 cars!
Looks pretty good. Miata races are going to be so much fun.
Yeah, the trailer must have been made with an really early build. No other explanation.
nowheretorun
Member
My first impressions of the off-screen gameplay^
- Lighting is beautiful.
- Shadow pop in is not good.
- No damage I think (had to play on mute).
- Not much sense of speed.
- Racing looked by the by...rather pedestrian which makes me question if GT Sport is going to deliver when it looks like its going to be the focus, especially dealing with 'online'...
- Several stutters/slowdowns on corners.
edit: via c0de yep some serious pop in on the mirror too. :-(
- Lighting is beautiful.
- Shadow pop in is not good.
- No damage I think (had to play on mute).
- Not much sense of speed.
- Racing looked by the by...rather pedestrian which makes me question if GT Sport is going to deliver when it looks like its going to be the focus, especially dealing with 'online'...
- Several stutters/slowdowns on corners.
edit: via c0de yep some serious pop in on the mirror too. :-(
Expect nice Q&A courtesy of GTPlanet in few hours. Have no idea when they will actually publish it online, but ther is big Q&A in preparing with lots and lots of questions.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
Given they were just Mazda MX5s i wouldn't expect too much fast racing, GT always actually had a good representation of speed, making the slower hatchbacks seem painfully slow. Certainly the shadow popin was worrying but hopefully won't be as noticeable when you're playing and not just watching details.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Only things we have seen to make the gameplay more racing focused so far are safety cars, flag system and a class system.
HighResTomato
Member
Why are people so worried about the audio? Didn't they pick up a sound director from a turn10?
Neogaf thread
Neogaf thread
nowheretorun
Member
To be honest its not acceptable to me personally if I've got to just ignore it because I'm playing and not watching. However, still time to optimise so I'm still waiting.
Bitch Pudding
Member
Apparently he's the new janitor at PD's HQ.
Well, not, but the fact that main physics guy that went from Enthusia-team to Polyphony ended in the AI department instead at Tan's team was alwas a mind-boggling.
TheAdmiester
Member
Because we've actually heard the audio now.
Bitch Pudding
Member
from gtplanet.net
Looking forward to racing them GT3 cars on the Ring.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Does it really tear constantly?
AbandonedTrolley
Member
I'm normally pretty hot on screen tearing but can't say it seemed too present in the off screen footage in that video. There was some stuttering, but given the probably build completion, I'd give PD the benefit of the benefit of the doubt and hopefully things like that will be sorted by release.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Good if not, it appears to tear when watching on my phone but I didn't want to slate it if that wasn't the case.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
from gtplanet.net
Looking forward to racing them GT3 cars on the Ring.
GT3 is besto
Sidewinder
Member
GT Pachinko coming soon, Kaz will tour MS studios around the world to find a new engine next year, mmw!
travisbickle
Member
The shadow pop-in on the trees is similar to what happens in Driveclub. Could mean day/night cycles.
God damn.
The gameplay looks better from the off screen, but they still need to fix the mess they've started.
Probably one of the worst racing game releases in a while.
velociraptor
Junior Member
Does real life look flat to you?
Man, the PR for this game has been disastrous. That literally looks 10x better than the trailer.
The livestreams 720p feed (downrezzed from 1080p) has a consistent ~40px tear across the top. Nowhere near as bad as the series PS3 entries, I expect it to be gone come November. However external replay views are now unlocked 60fps and heavily fluctuate. :/
It's a compressed gif...
Fuck give it to me now
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
The time to fire Yoshida for overseeing the destruction of their biggest franchise.
I just hope bikes are coming with GT Sport day 1, if not this will be the first GT game I buy used.
And you're busted. And everybody else who thinks that there some graphical changes during replays cuz it's 30 fps. Guys, just stop.
Brands Hatch gameplay :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-drkIIYVhY
Where has there been any inkling that bikes would be added?
Completely different? Come on..!. Project CARS is probably the closest thing right now to GT Sport and is a far more appropriate comparison than FM6, Driveclub, or any of the non-PS4 racing sims that people like to throw into the mix. Both games have a heavy motorsport focus and are built around competitive racing. It'll be interesting to see what concessions GTS eventually has (practice, quali, tyre & fuel strategy, flags, penalties, points systems) but all of those were indicated by GTS's original mission statement. My point was, GTS seems to bring absolutely nothing new to the table (apart from some dubious e-sports bolt-on that nobody actually asked for), and based on current showings actually has glaring omissions and sub-par execution. It appears to be a lesser product than current offerings from other studios, which rather begs the questions: what is it actually for, and who is it aimed at? Photomode seems to have been where most of the effort has been spent, which is very curious prioritising for a self-styled motorsports game. The fact that Kaz continues to ignore even the loudest of critics (witness the perpetually godawful audio) just says to me that GT is now little more than the vanity project of someone who still believes their press from ten years ago and bathes daily in the adulation of his blinkered followers. Assetto Corsa also launches on PS4 before GT Sport does so the competition is about to get even tougher.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
In the same dreams as his circuit creator etc
He is talking about the track detail.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
You can spot a few things missing on there that might have been picked up already.
No tyre marks and no debris, dirt being kicked up when going off track. Makes it seem very sterile at the moment.