NinjaCoachZ
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Is that a translation error or did Kimi really say it's a home console?
The bit about third parties sounds really promising.
Emily Rogers: NX Not Using x86 Architecture - Won't Blow Away Current Gen Consoles
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Is that a translation error or did Kimi really say it's a home console?
The bit about third parties sounds really promising.
But In the same sentence you have they don't want to do it because it would cost too much. To me it sounds like once again Nintendo came to 3rd parties too late. Sony and MS talk with developers years before making a console I just don't get that with Nintendo they do what they want.
I think he has no other choice to listen to 3rd party but also the shareholders. So I'm expecting something in between.
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Silent_Ocarina
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Oh, I'm not trying to say Nintendo doesn't need third parties or anything of the sort. I'm just saying there's a problem because the idea that people game only on Nintendo consoles and only buy Nintendo games is not that far-fetched. I'm not saying people should be okay with playing just Nintendo games, either. I'm just saying I am okay personally with that, and that's not exactly a good thing when it comes to third party games not selling on Nintendo consoles.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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I know we knew.. but its a home console guys
Theanine3D
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"Affordable" is a great word to hear. Kimishima knows what he's doing.
Spyder_Monkey
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Cost > Performance
If they only considering the suggestions now, it's not really that much time left for implementation.
I hope that's not just a liberty taken by the translator.
I hope that's not just a liberty taken by the translator.
Depends on what they want.
OS-level Party System? Do it.
Analog Triggers? Do it.
Share system? Eh...I can live without it.
I can't really think of much else, tbh.
That part was never mentioned in the Perfectly Nintendo translation of the interview
My guess is it's probably a translation error on Tom's Hardware's part as we would have gotten a report of that by now from someone as the interview was five days ago.
VR. Costs would skyrocket at the moment.
It's funny that some of us are like Nintendo should do whatever 3rd party developers want them to do without knowing specifics of the what and how much it would add to costs.
If Nintendo were to add everything devs wanted and the system costs 500 bucks...people aint buying that shit. So no...Nintendo shouldn't have to do whatever devs want. They should listen, incorporate some stuff but ultimately use some common sense and intelligence in making decisions.
If Nintendo were to add everything devs wanted and the system costs 500 bucks...people aint buying that shit. So no...Nintendo shouldn't have to do whatever devs want. They should listen, incorporate some stuff but ultimately use some common sense and intelligence in making decisions.
I really hope that any unique features or functions are inexpensive and don't get in the way of regular functionality people expect from a game console.
Miiverse, streetpass, Splatoon Splatfests, these are the kinds of thing I'd like to see more of.
Hardware innovation is neat too, but they obviously need to focus on features that are not as expensive as the 3D display on the 3DS or the Wii U Gamepad. I think having a screen in the home console controller is fine, as long as the controller is smaller and cheaper to manufacture. They could even make it an optional accessory primarily for the purpose of off screen play.
Miiverse, streetpass, Splatoon Splatfests, these are the kinds of thing I'd like to see more of.
Hardware innovation is neat too, but they obviously need to focus on features that are not as expensive as the 3D display on the 3DS or the Wii U Gamepad. I think having a screen in the home console controller is fine, as long as the controller is smaller and cheaper to manufacture. They could even make it an optional accessory primarily for the purpose of off screen play.
Yeah, it's strange. The same part has a totally different meaning in there:
Seems more to be the internal developers than 3rd parties. Also in the article from Tom's Hardware it's not mentioned to be 3rd parties. Looks more like a jump to conclusion here from Peterc.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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crap..
Stairouais
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I hope affordable doesn't mean Shitty NES resolution screen.
You are in luck, it means 120p!
sounds like XBoxOne and PS4 have day one features that NX at launch won't have.
Maybe NX will have a very small HDD space.
i am guessing 120GB..
Schnozberry
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I think Kimishima explained it well. I'm sure developers have made some worthwhile suggestions, but you have to find a balance between the must have features and a price that people are willing to pay.
I don't get the impression that many developers are asking for it or making games for it.
I suppose that could explain it being pushed to 2017. Maybe...Probably not lol.
mugurumakensei
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Well, if Nintendo goes nVidia for both GPUs, nVidias simultaneous multi-projection tech would lower the GPU demand for VR.
Dark Cloud
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Why are people still mentioning him? Did he become credible all of a sudden?
Night Angel
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The fact that he's telling everyone to forget everything he's said should answer that pretty decisively.
Mediking
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Nintendo lets other companies like Bayonetta wear Nintendo costumes and it's freaking awesome. Imagine giving Cloud a Link costume or a Fire Emblem costume in Final Fantasy 7 Remake. How about Samus having a Lara Croft inspired outfit or vice versa? Sora from Kingdom Hearts wearing a goofy Mario costume? The list runs on and I know that sounds cheap and silly to others but I would love it for more 3rd party games to have Nintendo costumes on Nintendo platforms.
It's also not as if they never listened to external developers, they just needed to be very close to Nintendo. Cambridge-based Zoonami helped on the ergonomic design of the Wii Remote for example.
The wording in those articles is always so fascinating lol
Plus Nintendo being as cryptic as possible doesn't help at all.
The way I read it, NX won't be Wii U' successor as in... it won't be part of the Wii brand. Don't expect Wii Trii or any of that. However, they're confirming it is indeed a home console.
Also, good luck with "sold alongside the Wii U and 3DS"
3DS still has some fuel left in the tank, ok.
Wii U tho? the very definition of pushing it.
My mistake then. It sounded like the developers part meant 3rd party and not first party. But yes, they could mean first party.
http://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-hiring-lead-graphics-architect-for-next-gen-console/
Remember this and this
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1182063
This is a nice move from nintendo. This keans we wouldn't get old architecture. Young people are the first to bring change.
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Alistair Roo;204281343 Also said:
Not only are the pushing it, but it's snapped an axel and lost three wheels.
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If you're referring to this paragraph:
Then I think it might be a translation issues, and the original might have said 'our engineers'.
ed: actually never mind. He's clearly talking of software devs.
Hard to believe comments like this.
Few other ones maybe you wanted to know
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/4kdk43/monster_games_developing_nascar_heat_evolution/
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/4jz8tx/take_two_sorta_comments_on_nx_during_financial/
Maybe the nx is a 3rd pillar of Nintendo and couldn't be compared to traditional consoles.
Nintendo said the wiiu production will be ended in 2018. This means it will have a life cycle of 6y. Maybe a bit later, lnext gen will be announced "ps5,nextNintendo and Ms cross platform(pc) console" .
Maybe the nx is something new like vr.
What I think is that it will be a home console with games that can be shared with other devices. Also maybe the patent with the glasses will be included.
That way you don't going to have a midgen console.
She was a bit vague about her statement. Do you what she mean with close to xbox1?
nx < Xbox1 or NX > Xbox1?
That question has been answered a bunch of times. She doesn't know, she just repeated what her source told her. Appearantly. Strange that she didn't bother to ask for clarification at the time, but she told Nate Drake that this was how the info was given.
What she said is about raw numbers, so if NX really has a Nvidia GPU we're going to have to wait to read those numbers before we can draw our conclusions, and actually see how multiplatform games behave on the new hardware compared to PS4/X1 to really know where it stands. That being said, this is my current take on what she said and what we heard:
Prisoner KSC2-303
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I'm not sure if you saw me ask before, but any chance of a link to that Iwata quote Rodin?
I can't seem to find it.
I can't seem to find it.
Sorry, i missed your previous post. Here:
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/140130qa/02.html
They want the NX to be like iOS and Android, so that every time a new console/form factor is released, it's compatible from d1 with every (or at least, most) game(s) already available on the market. Also, everytime devs develop new apps for the platforms, these are compatible with every device, which is why both App Store and Play Store have more than 1 billion apps. I think Microsoft and Sony will go the same route eventually, by sticking with AMD (and x86) for Xbox 4 and PS5. Microsoft is actually already trying this with W10.
Prisoner KSC2-303
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No problem, cheers for that.
I wondered if that was the quote you were referencing. I think I read it slightly differently though, but I appreciate the different take on it.
I wondered if that was the quote you were referencing. I think I read it slightly differently though, but I appreciate the different take on it.
gamerMan
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Interesting. Nintendo has said that they don't like VR in its current form. The way VR is set up now, it wouldn't really work with Nintendo games. That doesn't mean Nintendo can't reinterpret it to work with their games. Perhaps it's a similar idea.
Schnozberry
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I could see NX being a moderately powered console with an AR focused controller. You can do some pretty cool shit with multiple cameras. I don't expect Nintendo to sell a VR console, as I don't think wearing a helmet and isolating yourself from the people around you fits into their idea of what the purpose of gaming is.
The problem with Xbox going down this route is that VERY few third party games are on both XB1 and the W10 store. It could improve over time, but W10 isn't moving much outside of PC's. Especially phones, where their marketshare is terrible.
I also don't think Sony has any kinda interest in having Playstation games be playable on everything they make unless it's a Sony device, which is kind of a mistake, IMO. Focusing on streaming games simply isn't a great idea for the medium because you have to combat small, free-to-download games and large, $60 games. $60 streamed games with DLC and F2P elements simply won't work because it'd be too easy to lose all of investment.
Nintendo going to an iOS/Android model for consoles/handhelds is a bit...new, maybe slightly behind Microsoft on the idea.
Skittzo0413
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Also Nintendo doesn't seem to create many first person games, and while VR could probably be adapted for third person games one of the main points of VR is to put yourself in the shoes of your player character, so it doesn't seem like the best fit. AR on the other hand seems right up their alley.
Schnozberry
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There is a lot of resistance to Microsofts plans for PC gaming. With a well planned infrastructure and a stroke of luck, I think people would actually embrace Nintendo getting their act together in terms of offering a competent digital store and shared/semi-shared content library.
NeonZ
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Here's a more direct translation of some quotes from that interview.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1219713
http://www.perfectly-nintendo.com/n...view-with-tatsumi-kimishima-movies-mobile-nx/
Note that Kimishima himself never calls the NX a stationary console, it's the interviewer that does it when Kimishima starts talking about the impact it'd have on the 3ds and Wii U.
Kimishima says that the 3ds wouldn't be as affected this year due to the strength of the Pokemon brand, but then the interviewer interjects that the Wii U would be obviously more affected by the NX because both are home consoles, then Kimishima replies saying that the NX isn't a successor to either the Wii U or the 3ds, but a "new way of playing games".
Either way, I don't think Kimishima was really talking about a third pillar in the traditional sense - he clearly seems to think that the NX will have a negative impact on the existing Nintendo consoles, with the 3ds only saved this year due to Pokemon.
I kinda interpreted that as Pokémon helping to keep the 3DS afloat, anyway.
Dark Cloud
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I kind of interpret as the Wii U is dead. NX is coming and it's not a "Wii 3" or "4DS". It's a brand new system like SNES to N64 or N64 to GameCube. Lol why I see people all over the Internet looking so much into this boggles me. It's a new system. That's it. There's nothing more to "read" into.
The quote isn't a third pillar statement thing, no. To me, like some people above, that quote is more of a single pillar thing. The NX isn't, as he says, merely the replacement for the Wii U or the 3DS, it's the replacement of both of them, with the 3DS having a gasp of relevance into 2017 due to the new Pokemon.
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