Blackleg-sanji1
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Dragon Ball Super |OT2| June 12: Judgment Day
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It's still kinda baffling that the staff is going out of their way to do impressive animations left and right for "no reason".
This transition is completely gratuitous. It serves virtually no purpose except looking cool.
It's so good ! But i don't want to get used to it because I know it might disappear.
This transition is completely gratuitous. It serves virtually no purpose except looking cool.
It's so good ! But i don't want to get used to it because I know it might disappear.
ArchedThunder
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It's still kinda baffling that the staff is going out of their way to do impressive animations left and right for "no reason".
This transition is completely gratuitous. It serves virtually no purpose except looking cool.
It's so good ! But i don't want to get used to it because I know it might disappear.
I don't think the animation is going to dip in any significant fashion for any significant amount of time any time soon. Obviously some episodes will look worse than others and we'll probably still get some bad looking episodes here and there, but I'm pretty sure Toei is going to keep throwing as many animators on episodes as possible.
Icyflamez96
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Why is it even called Superhuman water?
TheRealTalker
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It's still kinda baffling that the staff is going out of their way to do impressive animations left and right for "no reason".
This transition is completely gratuitous. It serves virtually no purpose except looking cool.
It's so good ! But i don't want to get used to it because I know it might disappear.
hope that Toei will just continue to impress and expand the budget
lol wondered the same thing
I also wondered where they got that martial arts book since it had a human on it and if alien species really do just causally know and order stuff from Earth
That was not my point.
My point is that they went from suffering to handle the episodes scripts, to adding useless scenes that require a lot of time to animate just because they could.
What we are likely to see in future episodes, is decent animation for the script. I don't think we'll get those useless eye candies in every episode.
Also, Toei basically stopped most of their other shows so it's sending all it can at both One piece and DBS.
Any movie, tv special, etc... will take resources away from DBS. But the funny part is that DBS and One Piece are their only two animes in the top 10, both making the most money out of every anime out there. So it's unlikely they will try to come up with (many) new series since DBS is making them the kind of bank they were looking for.
It's still kinda baffling that the staff is going out of their way to do impressive animations left and right for "no reason".
This transition is completely gratuitous. It serves virtually no purpose except looking cool.
It's so good ! But i don't want to get used to it because I know it might disappear.
Thats some Jojo level transition
Ultra Numb
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I hope its a Frieza/Android esque arc with several sagas inbetween
For example, the "Cell/Android Arc" had
Trunks Saga
Android Saga
Imperfect Cell Saga
Perfect Cell Saga
Cell Games Saga
For example, the "Cell/Android Arc" had
Trunks Saga
Android Saga
Imperfect Cell Saga
Perfect Cell Saga
Cell Games Saga
Don't take it literally. The term used isn't the same as the one for human.
This is how Dragon Ball should look. Goku's hair looks proper here too. There have been some scenes where I felt like it was too short.It's still kinda baffling that the staff is going out of their way to do impressive animations left and right for "no reason".
This transition is completely gratuitous. It serves virtually no purpose except looking cool.
It's so good ! But i don't want to get used to it because I know it might disappear.
I never expected superhuman water to be water that makes specifically humans stronger. I did think that it would be water that would make anyone who drinks it stronger, however. Not that it would've really made much of a difference because this is just an in-between arc, that's probably going to be mostly, if not entirely, ignored in the future.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Like you said as long as they don't pick up any new shows anytime soon they should be good I'm glad the animation has started to look more consistent for both shows although I'm sure it'll take a lil dip soon because they're about to do a special
I truly hope this arc makes Vegeta stronger in some way. I am tired of Goku always getting all the special accidental upgrades or training. Give Vegeta something new aside from the same moves he came to earth with and SSJ upgrades.
I can't see Goku busting out the Kaoi Ken SSB again anytime soon after it completely destroyed his body. Future Trunks might bring a new transformation with him because if the antagonist is going to pose a threat that means he has to be on Beerus/Whis levels, and that completely outclasses SSB. So a BS power-up for both of them is almost guaranteed unless they resort to fusion.
Ultra Numb
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Maybe Future Trunks strength is going to be a "What if Gohan never stopped training post Cell Saga" esque. Half-Saiyans have more potential.
ArchedThunder
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They've announced the DVD/Bluray sets through April 2017 (set six) meaning we are now guaranteed to have at least 72 episodes total in Super. While we'll probably get more than that it's still interesting to know that Super is confirmed now to be longer than GT.
Ah, I see what you're saying, really it will come down to the animators and the storyboarders, but yeah I wouldn't expect stylish transitions like that for every episode but we'll probably get them every now and then.
Eh, Toei filler is typically pretty lame story wise, it'll be over in June. One episode in and this 3 episode mini arc already feels more like GT than something Toriyama wrote.
One Piece actually gets some great animation pretty often and the animation on Super has already gotten better, these past 3 episodes have been of a pretty high quality, especially this most recent episode.
I assume they're using the word Ningen, which doesn't have a direct english translation, it basically just means a sentient life form. I guess in universe people thought by "Super Human Water" that it was water that made you stronger, but instead it is literally sentient water.
Ah, I see what you're saying, really it will come down to the animators and the storyboarders, but yeah I wouldn't expect stylish transitions like that for every episode but we'll probably get them every now and then.
Eh, Toei filler is typically pretty lame story wise, it'll be over in June. One episode in and this 3 episode mini arc already feels more like GT than something Toriyama wrote.
One Piece actually gets some great animation pretty often and the animation on Super has already gotten better, these past 3 episodes have been of a pretty high quality, especially this most recent episode.
It's still kinda baffling that the staff is going out of their way to do impressive animations left and right for "no reason".
This transition is completely gratuitous. It serves virtually no purpose except looking cool.
It's so good ! But i don't want to get used to it because I know it might disappear.
that's pretty much the episode director being himself(karasawa kazuya), this the same guy that did the whole frost and vegeta zooming into each others eyes, but this time he did the directing and storyboarding
his a relatively new animator promoted to an episode director, in his very short run as episode director his put out some top notch world trigger episodes.
The adding him to line up is a good start, I would love to see some of toei best episode directors appear in dragon ball super, if Komaki aya aka queen of hype showed up to do a key arc episode fans would shitting there pants as they would be witnessing the best dragon ball episode in existence.
One piece actually gets a ton of good animation
NeonZ
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http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/23/dragon-ball-super-dvd-blu-ray-boxes-4-6-announced/
So, Dragonball Super now is confirmed to have at least 72 episodes.
So, Dragonball Super now is confirmed to have at least 72 episodes.
Cool, i didn't know they removed the original 100 ep count
That was only an missinformed rumor.
I don't think they have. DBZ is back to outpacing One Piece again.
hope for atleast 200
The word is choujinsui and choujin is another word for superman.
Host Samurai
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I hope it just never ends. I still can't believe we are getting new content every week.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I would like to see a conclusive end. But I doubt that'll happen.
ArchedThunder
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Ah, okay, but I assume it's basically the same thing, the "Superman" is the water itself.
DiipuSurotu
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Hopefully they do a time skip at some point...
Hidden One
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Das racist
Unspeakable Evil
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Was GT that unpopular in Japan?
Chaotic-Strike
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It literally killed the franchise over there, so I can't ever see it being that well-liked.
DBGT's reception is what convinced Funimation to cut out the first arc when they first aired it over here.
ArchedThunder
Banned
The animation hasn't been bad for months and these past three weeks have been really high quality.
Not sure about Japan but Western reception was really poor.
That said, GT stuff is still getting put in the games these days so who knows?
Unspeakable Evil
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Ah yes GT lost episodes
By the time GT made it here. None of my classmates cared.
OK, so hear me out, I don't usually do the whole fan idea/fiction thing, but....
Maybe there's a way to give Vegeta his own variant of Kaiokhan, which ALSO can be used by Gohan BUT can't be used by Goku (nor Trunks/Goten).
We could just have a story about Vegeta and Goku going to Universe 6 Planet Salad, where they discover that the ancient Saiyans on that planet had a special power up linked to their tails and the Oozaru form. But since that universe's Saiyans have long since evolved past their need for tails, it was thought that the technique was lost.
Just have some old guy on the planet bring out a scroll or something and have both Vegeta and Goku try it. Now here's the trick, the power up only works and increases in power the MORE a Saiyan could retain his mind and will in the Great Ape form. Goku never could do that, so his power up fails, causing him to power up but losing all the Ki and he can't control it, faints. Vegeta steps up, bam, he can completely master the power up and it can stack in Super Saiyan/SSB too, but can only be used for a short time.
Now where does Gohan fit into this? In DBZ, the few times Gohan transformed, he shown a somewhat stronger ability to try and control that form compared to Goku, and thanks to him increasing his mind power with knowledge, he too would be able to hold the power up (also fitting cause Goku is usually dumb as a brick when not fighting), and thanks to off screen training, he can stack it with Mystic.
That way, you'd have three burst specific transformations unique to each character...
- SSB + Kaiokhan (Goku)
- SSB + Oozaru Ki? (Vegeta)
- Mystic + Oozaru Ki? (Gohan)
And sadly Goten and Trunks will just have to stick with Fusion as usual. Plus I just think it would be funny to have a form Goku can be jealous of and have King Kai tell him he can use to if he was smart, that's just a convo which would be so comical in DB.
Maybe there's a way to give Vegeta his own variant of Kaiokhan, which ALSO can be used by Gohan BUT can't be used by Goku (nor Trunks/Goten).
We could just have a story about Vegeta and Goku going to Universe 6 Planet Salad, where they discover that the ancient Saiyans on that planet had a special power up linked to their tails and the Oozaru form. But since that universe's Saiyans have long since evolved past their need for tails, it was thought that the technique was lost.
Just have some old guy on the planet bring out a scroll or something and have both Vegeta and Goku try it. Now here's the trick, the power up only works and increases in power the MORE a Saiyan could retain his mind and will in the Great Ape form. Goku never could do that, so his power up fails, causing him to power up but losing all the Ki and he can't control it, faints. Vegeta steps up, bam, he can completely master the power up and it can stack in Super Saiyan/SSB too, but can only be used for a short time.
Now where does Gohan fit into this? In DBZ, the few times Gohan transformed, he shown a somewhat stronger ability to try and control that form compared to Goku, and thanks to him increasing his mind power with knowledge, he too would be able to hold the power up (also fitting cause Goku is usually dumb as a brick when not fighting), and thanks to off screen training, he can stack it with Mystic.
That way, you'd have three burst specific transformations unique to each character...
- SSB + Kaiokhan (Goku)
- SSB + Oozaru Ki? (Vegeta)
- Mystic + Oozaru Ki? (Gohan)
And sadly Goten and Trunks will just have to stick with Fusion as usual.
Plus I just think it would be funny to have a form Goku can be jealous of and have King Kai tell him he can use to if he was smart, that's just a convo which would be so comical in DB.ArchedThunder
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Kid.
Next arc starts on episode 47.
Ultra Numb
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He doesn't.
That's the problem. It's Super now, times have changed. Logically he should be able to stack Super Saiyan on top of Mystic but AT probably just forgot about Mystic altogether.
This is the Goku show. Even Vegeta is the same old "finish the side-opponents, get wrecked by the main guy" dude.
Blackleg-sanji1
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I'd be fine with characters taking put side opponents and goku takes out the main baddie. But it rarely happens
ArchedThunder
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Goku hasn't even really got a real win against the final guy in an arc yet either, he lost against Beerus and Hit and he blindsided Freeza (after having been blindsided himself).
The only arc unique to Super so far had a huge focus on Vegeta.
The next arc is also called the "Future Trunks arc" instead of being named after the villain, I think that's a pretty big indicator that it won't focus primarily on Goku.
Yeah. I feel like people should just be patient and see how the next arc turns out.
Ultra Numb
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He gets the main fights though, and that's what matters IMO. For a series that thrives off its fighting... it gets rather repetitive with Goku always being the one to get that main fight regardless if he wins. We always say "wait til next main arc" and the same thing happens again and again and again.
It always has and unfortunately will likely always be like that. He got the main fights against Jackie Chun, RR Army, Tien, King Piccolo, Piccolo, Vegeta, Frieza, Buu, Beerus, Golden Frieza, Hit
The one exception is Cell and that's very unique case in that Gohan is the only character to ever be built up to replace Goku as the main character. Nobody else has ever come close to that status.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Believe next arc is when the others will shine....
I agree with you
Hopefully the villain of the arc has a team so at the very least the others can win fights instead of everyone trying to best the same guy
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