No Man's Sky - August 9, 2016

Virdix

Member
Honestly im relieved, Im finishing up this quarter and with Blood and Wine coming out on Tuesday im swamped enough.
 

Gruso

Member
Sean Murray already undercut everyone on the Molyneux thing.

Murray: That, over there: That’s the Centre of the Galaxy. So that’s where people are trying to get to. They start off on the outside edge…

McCaffrey: That’s the ultimate goal of the game, is to reach that?

Murray: Yeah, for some people, at least. Some people will never make try and make that journey, they’ll just… you know, you could actually just start up on a planet and just spend your whole time exploring it.

McCaffrey: So what awaits us at the Centre of the Galaxy? Spiritual enlightenment? Untold wealth? Immortality?

Murray: Peter Molyneux.

From this vid IIRC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLcjvIQJns0
 

Z3M0G

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I think this quote is one of the dumbest things, but I wanted to get ahead of the crowd and post it before it starts getting spammed.
One of the dumbest things? It is absolutely true and something that some people need to be reminded of time to time.
 

ironcreed

Banned
He had one of the redditors message him on Twitter blaming him for delaying NMS, like Jason was personally responsible, when the article was published and how he was going to come find and kill him and his entire family. Thats how fucked up it was, and still is.
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Z3M0G

Member
So why did so many people jump on Kotaku for this? Its not like this was the first game to ever get delayed... and be leaked first by a news outlet, I assume...
 

Galactic Fork

A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
I was embarrassingly excited over this game, and have been for years. With the previous release date getting closer I'd been bubbling with excitement, but now with another 50 days added to it, it feels like that's been siphoned out of me. I still want it, but I can't even get close to the level of anticipation I had for it even the last time we were at the 75 day mark.

I wasn't even expecting it to necessarily be all that great. I thought one of the funniest things ever would be after all this anticipation, it's just a pile of crap. But now even that won't happen cause I won't care as much.

So yeah. August 9th.
 

TheFuzz

Member
So what are we supposed to do if it's actually great?

Does anyone have a contingency, ya know, just in case?
 

Konstruct

Neo Member
Yay! August actually means something to me again. I planned on getting Deus Ex, but overal it was a pretty dry month for games.
 

Miracle

Member
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I think this quote is one of the dumbest things, but I wanted to get ahead of the crowd and post it before it starts getting spammed.

I also think the quote is very overrated. Especially since a lot of delayed games are actually NOT good. Duke Nukem Forever being exhibit A.

On topic, I'm glad the delay is not that much longer at all. The way people were freaking out about it, I expected 2017 or something.
 

Jobbs

Banned
Sean has actually shown pretty much everything he has talked about. It's not even close to the same thing that Molyneux does.

edit: If you can watch this, and still believe he is Molyneux-ish, and unexperienced, then idk what else to say.

Yeah, I agree my comparison was a bit extreme. I'm willing to walk it back. I'm experience slight Moly vibes, but not full ones.
 
Some pretty big warning signs are there for me:


  • Extremely ambitious concept
  • Peter Molyneux style pitchman
  • Small inexperienced studio
  • Troubled schedule (I know, pot kettle..)
That said I really hope it's everything everyone hopes it is. I would love for this to be legit and I would never root for it to fail. I'm just feeling reaaallly cautious.

Inexperienced, eh? Only game, eh?

Sean Murray – Tech Director at Kuju, Technical Lead at Criterion on several Burnout titles
Grant Duncan – Artist, Sega games including Virtua Tennis 3
Ryan Doyle – programmer on Burnout titles, Lead Programmer on Geometry Wars: Galaxies
David Ream – Creative Director, previous work on Geometry Wars
Simon Carter – co-creator of Dungeon Keeper and Fable
Harry Denholm – programmer, previously at Rockstar (GTA, RDR)
Charlie Tangora – physics programmer, previously Naughty Dog (Uncharted 1-3)

Those are just the people I could easily find who work at Hello.

Sean is not a Peter. He's the opposite of Peter. He's never overpromised anything, in fact he's reluctant to even tell us things about the game for exactly that reason.
 

SomTervo

Member
[*]Peter Molyneux style pitchman
[*]Small inexperienced studio

These two statements seem like complete bull, though.

At every stage Murray's been like "I sure hope this works, guys" when Moly would have been like "this is the greatest game ever"

And what others have said about the team - who are evidently super experienced, just like Lion Head's.
 

Omadahl

Banned
Why has this delay been such a big deal? Plenty of time to play numerous games already out there until then.

For me it was coming out when I had the most time to play it. The summer is always a horrible drought. A fall release means I'm canceling my preorder and maybe I'll get to play around Christmas when I'm on break from work and school.
 

ReaperXL7

Member
A bit disappointed that it got pushed but a few weeks isn't the big of a deal. If they feel they need that little bit of extra time to polish it up then I'm not going throw a tantrum, I'd rather they get the time they need and get it as close to right out of the gate as possible.

gives me some time to finish up other games in the process as well.
 

Alienfan

Member
Thought the delay was going to be bigger than that! I feel like we still know nothing about the game - which is equally as exciting, as it is worrying.
 
I Don't understand people being upset about delays. I can understand suits being so since it may affect business, but for consumers, what is the problem? Do you rather have a broken game? The people making the game are saying it isn't finished. So there WILL be issues if they release it now. Do love going through frantic patches 6 months post launch, or something?
And games today aren't in limited quantities. In fact, pre-ordering is silly in today's world to 'secure a copy'.

I want Horizon. But I forget about it till I see it on the store. I might not even buy it before a price cut. It depends on the hype at launch. But I would never feel upset if it gets delayed because I know they wouldn't do that if it was releasable. In fact, the problem we do have is having games released unfinished knowingly. Now that is upsetting.
 
Yeah, I agree my comparison was a bit extreme. I'm willing to walk it back. I'm experience slight Moly vibes, but not full ones.

He's the opposite of Molyneux. Murray didn't talk about planet deformation until it was implemented and he could show it in gameplay. Murray didn't talk about Alien NPCs until it was implemented and he could show it in gameplay. Murray didn't go into detail on crafting weaponry until it was in the game and they could show it working ...

He's not a Molyneux just because you don't understand mathematics.
 

ReaperXL7

Member
Thought the delay was going to be bigger than that! I feel like we still know nothing about the game - which is equally as exciting, as it is worrying.

Then you haven't been paying much attention. IGN alone has hours of content with Shawn explaining and playing the game to Ryan Mcaffry. Unless you want every last bit of information about the game before it comes out, personally I don't and I think that's a big problem in the games industry these days is that people push too much to get all of the information they possibly can and then by the time a game comes out its old news because we already know it all.

Part of the thing that makes games like Souls/BloodBorne sp great is that aspect of discovering everything while playing, not watching a trailer or listening to someone flap their gums about it for hours.
 
The way he communicates the game at times when he's explaining it to people definitely smacks of Moly. It's manipulative, like, just as one example, when he says "it will take 108 trillion years for 2 million players to explore every planet in our galaxy" (or whatever - I'm paraphrasing) which is completely useless and pointless information meant to dazzle people who may not know much about video games and how planets are procedurally generated by mathz and will just be variants of the same handfull of things a quadrillion times

Yeah I've had to explain that a lot to people. 18 quintillion is a good buzzword but the variety of the procedural generation is what actually matters when playing the game.


The thing I'm most excited about with NMS is finally getting a unguided experience with their tech. If we can actually visit 100 planets and still be surprised by what's possible, it'll be incredibly impressive.
 

Galactic Fork

A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
I Don't understand people being upset about delays. I can understand suits being so since it may affect business, but for consumers, what is the problem? Do you rather have a broken game? The people making the game are saying it isn't finished. So there WILL be issues if they release it now. Do love going through frantic patches 6 months post launch, or something?
And games today aren't in limited quantities. In fact, pre-ordering is silly in today's world to 'secure a copy'.

I want Horizon. But I forget about it till I see it on the store. I might not even buy it before a price cut. It depends on the hype at launch. But I would never feel upset if it gets delayed because I know they wouldn't do that if it was releasable. In fact, the problem we do have is having games released unfinished knowingly. Now that is upsetting.

1) Wanting a game isn't the same as being excited about a game. If you've never been excited about a game, I can't help you.

2) It's not a matter of whether one would "rather have a broken game" but would "rather the makers have been competent enough to deliver when they said they would." If you had a project for school, would you tell your teacher "Hey, would you rather have a finished report or this first draft?" The delay isn't a force of nature that just occurred. They weren't able to complete their work when they said they would. And since we are consumers and not a teacher or a boss, we're powerless in this situation other than expressing feelings (I am not talking about stuff like those messed up death threats or any sort of attacks, Ugh). So we might express that we are upset that they didn't deliver. It doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. But neither is your confusion that other people might not think the same way as you.
 

kyser73

Member
For me it was coming out when I had the most time to play it. The summer is always a horrible drought. A fall release means I'm canceling my preorder and maybe I'll get to play around Christmas when I'm on break from work and school.

Since when is August Autumn?

It's the middle of summer for the Northern hemisphere.
 

Machina

Banned
He had one of the redditors message him on Twitter blaming him for delaying NMS, like Jason was personally responsible, when the article was published and how he was going to come find and kill him and his entire family. Thats how fucked up it was, and still is.
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Wow, internet. Wow.
 
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