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[SPOILER THREAD] X-Men: Apocalypse
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all we know is that it's set in the 90s
Probably Phoenix going by the way Jean was built up
Only that? Oh well thank you
EDIT:
Yeah that and wolverine i guess(unless they want to do another movie about wolverine), i would like to see Sinister, such an overloocked villain
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Nah, Chuck pretty much just loses his hair and does this
Then he tells Jean to hit him with both barrels.
He was great and front and centre. I didn't realise they got Tye Sheridan as Cyclops. As his a great young actor. He plays Cyclops slightly cocky but able. His certainly not a footnote like James Marsden was in the the other X Men movies.
Did you stay for the scene after the credits?
Mr. Crow
Member
Thanks! Now I can't wait to watch this!
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
A finale battle where all Apocalypse does is stand in the middle of rumble and deflect attacks off a shield is the very definition of holding back. Or running out of money I guess.
From what I remember in the comics Apocalypse kinda does just stand there deflecting stuff or shoots beams. He'll sometimes Hulk out and get physical but he doesn't really do much.
Only that? Oh well thank you
EDIT:
Yeah that and wolverine i guess(unless they want to do another movie about wolverine), i would like to see Sinister, such an overloocked villain
The problem is, mr sinister is such a step down from Apocalypse in scope of power, though singers Apocalypse was pretty nerfed
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
So is Storm Egyptian now?
That is why Sinster has teams
The Nasy Boys, would be 90s as fuck
The Maruaders, Riptide damn near killed Colossus by himself...oh wait
roflwaffles
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Ehh with these superhero movies, I don't think scope in power is that big of a deal. They should have started with Sinister first though, his dynamic with Apocalypse is part of what makes him good but they can't really go with that storyline now that they've said Apoc has been asleep for forever.
All Apocalypse ever does is stand there tanking blasts and shooting beams and ocassionally choking someone. So they got 2 out of 3.
Saw the movie, and while I think it's a hot mess, I think I still enjoyed it somewhat.
One thing that gets me though, is that I do enjoy the visual aesthetic Singer uses in these films, the movie still looks really terrible a lot of the time due to horrible shot composition. I don't understand how there can be so many bad shots. Not to mention poorly shot action (This resulted in the whole wolvering escape sequence being comical than cool)
There's also some bizarrely bad writing, like:
"I always thought my brother would be the one that would change the world"
"No, he thought you would be the one to change the world"
How did that make it to the final cut?
The first third of the movie was really good, but it sort of kept going and going and meandering along and the ending battle was just dumb. I wish Singer would have just committed to having the final fight happen in Charles' head instead of this terrible forcefield crap.
One thing that gets me though, is that I do enjoy the visual aesthetic Singer uses in these films, the movie still looks really terrible a lot of the time due to horrible shot composition. I don't understand how there can be so many bad shots. Not to mention poorly shot action (This resulted in the whole wolvering escape sequence being comical than cool)
There's also some bizarrely bad writing, like:
"I always thought my brother would be the one that would change the world"
"No, he thought you would be the one to change the world"
How did that make it to the final cut?
The first third of the movie was really good, but it sort of kept going and going and meandering along and the ending battle was just dumb. I wish Singer would have just committed to having the final fight happen in Charles' head instead of this terrible forcefield crap.
No she's not Egyptian, when she was young her parents moved to Cairo though. They died in a plane crash and she grew up there, was trained by gang members and eventually stole from Xavier.
In the movie the only thing different is that her parents aren't mentioned (I don't think) and she stole from some random guy leading to Apocalypse finding her and that her hair turns white because of him (wtf?).
brandonh83
Banned
But the whole "Lets go to the mall" thing really feels like they let some things out while editing the movie
I know about the "mall scene", but even before that it feels a little bit quick: "I want to see america!" "Ill take you to the MALL". Really feels like there was stuff before that.
I hope the Jubilee Cut is 3 hours long
she'll have just as big a role as jubilee
Spike Spiegel
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1) Why wasn't Jubilee part of the group with Jean/Scott/Kurt?
2) Why'd they half-ass that Weapon X costume and helmet (the latter part was rhetorical)?
3) Why'd it seem like everyone was phoning this one in?
Overall I didn't really like it. Even the best scene was just a lengthened rehash of a scene from another sequel.
2) Why'd they half-ass that Weapon X costume and helmet (the latter part was rhetorical)?
3) Why'd it seem like everyone was phoning this one in?
Overall I didn't really like it. Even the best scene was just a lengthened rehash of a scene from another sequel.
SuperStiltzkin
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Man, Storm was severely under powered in this movie. She did fuck all. I know she's young and maybe her powers aren't that developed. But Apocalypse was supposed to magnify her power. If Magneto can go from lifting Baseball stadiums to sapping buildings all around the world, then Storm could summon a few tornadoes or something. Psylocke and Archangel were pretty useless too.
I wonder if Apocalypse, while getting the shit beat out of him by Quicksilver, was thinking "Wow, I really should have spent more time picking out my Four Horsemen."
The Wolverine stuff was great, even if it was minor. Makes me excited for the next Wolverine movie.
All the young Xmen on the good side were the best part of the movie. Jean, Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Quicksilver and Jubilee
were all great. I wish the movie cut out most of the Mystique and Moira bits to feature them more. They are a great cast and fun to watch. And they made Cyclops' beam look super powerful, more so than past movies.
I wonder if Apocalypse, while getting the shit beat out of him by Quicksilver, was thinking "Wow, I really should have spent more time picking out my Four Horsemen."
The Wolverine stuff was great, even if it was minor. Makes me excited for the next Wolverine movie.
All the young Xmen on the good side were the best part of the movie. Jean, Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Quicksilver and Jubilee
(lol)
entremet
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I thought Nina was Wanda at first, then I remembered the Scarlet Witch's real name.
I had this ridiculous theory that arrow scene was actually made up in her head--reality altering powers--and that she would show up alive later.
Quicksilver remains amazing, though. Such a fun character. Destroys the MCU version thoroughly.
Yeah, finally a decent depiction of Scott's optic blasts on film.
I had this ridiculous theory that arrow scene was actually made up in her head--reality altering powers--and that she would show up alive later.
Quicksilver remains amazing, though. Such a fun character. Destroys the MCU version thoroughly.
Yeah, finally a decent depiction of Scott's optic blasts on film.
Mr. Crow
Member
Nice!
How was Psylocke? I don't know about her in comics, but loved her in games! from X-Men 2: Clone Wars to MvC2.
roflwaffles
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Storm's actress is super cute
Calm waterfall
Banned
I was surprised how much more powerful the Phoenix force was than Apocalypse. Jean destroyed Apocalypse like nothing.
SuperStiltzkin
Member
Nice!
How was Psylocke? I don't know about her in comics, but loved her in games! from X-Men 2: Clone Wars to MvC2.
She's got a good fight scene with Beast. But outside of that, she's underutilized like the rest of the Horsemen. Don't even know what Apocalypse did to make her more powerful other than make her lightsaber brighter.
Well yea, apocalypse is powerful, but Phoenix is probably one of the top 10 if not top 5 beings in the X-men universe.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
The first time Jean Grey died it was because she caused a supernova while devouring a star.
Jean Grey by herself was more powerful than Starkiller Base.
Jean Grey by herself was more powerful than Starkiller Base.
I hated xmen apocalypse. I think it's worse than last stand.
I don't think last stand is all that bad. And it has some cool scenes. Apocalypse was mediocre all around.
Synger don't know what to do with storm and cyclops. I thought cyclops would act like a leader. But no, he is just riding along.
And storm must be the lamest thief in cairo. She looks like the character yes. But that's it.
Magneto destroyed half world, probably killing millions. But it's ok. He is a good guy now.
Oscar Isaac did a good job as apoc but i think he was too short. Apocalypse never felt menacing.
And what was that cheap weapon x cosplay? I had to keep myself from laughing.
The whole thing in the weapon x complex felt cheap and gratuitous.
I didn't like sophie turner as jean. When i look at her all i see is sansa from GoT. And they are hinting phoenix already?
I can't remember a single scene i enjoyed. It was either mediocre or pretty bad.
I don't think last stand is all that bad. And it has some cool scenes. Apocalypse was mediocre all around.
Synger don't know what to do with storm and cyclops. I thought cyclops would act like a leader. But no, he is just riding along.
And storm must be the lamest thief in cairo. She looks like the character yes. But that's it.
Magneto destroyed half world, probably killing millions. But it's ok. He is a good guy now.
Oscar Isaac did a good job as apoc but i think he was too short. Apocalypse never felt menacing.
And what was that cheap weapon x cosplay? I had to keep myself from laughing.
The whole thing in the weapon x complex felt cheap and gratuitous.
I didn't like sophie turner as jean. When i look at her all i see is sansa from GoT. And they are hinting phoenix already?
I can't remember a single scene i enjoyed. It was either mediocre or pretty bad.
Had a couple of days to let it sit. I thought it was alright - ultimately the weakest of the First Class trilogy, but definitely not The Last Stand- or Origins-levels or anything like that.
The 80s setting was pretty cool to see, though I wish there was more to that mall scene. The "third movies are usually the worst" joke got a good laugh at my theatre. I'm glad that the 80s setting wasn't too distracting and in-your-face, that being said. It adequately familiarizes you to the time without beating you over the head with it.
The story isn't to the quality of past Singer X-Men movies and it drops off at a certain point, but it is definitely still enjoyable. Where it dips for me is when they were brought to Alkali Lake and Wolverine popped up. I don't have any problem with the cameo, more just how the entire Alkali Lake setting played out. Not really sure how I would do things differently, though.
The third act had Earth-shattering consequences, but I liked how it felt more personal and isolated.
Seemed like such a waste of a role for Fassbender when all they had him do was be sad and cry. His best scene was after his family's death, he returned to the factory and was ready to murder all of the workers, and when Apocalypse showed up, all he said was "Who the fuck are you?" - Otherwise, *looks sad* *sheds a tear* *looks sad again* - and eventually works with the X-Men.
I had such high hopes for Storm, but she didn't get to do too much in the movie. That being said, I saw her appearance in Apocalypse more as an introduction, and I'm hoping she has a larger role to play in the next movie.
Olivia Munn as Psylocke was generally inoffensive, and she gets a cool entrance for the showdown.
Angel = useless.
Mystique = could've been scratched from the roster, but I didn't mind her. Seemed like they had Jennifer Lawrence in the movie just to fulfill her contract terms. I think most of her scenes could've worked without her, or that other characters could've taken over for her scenes.
Apocalypse seemed like a serious threat, but he never really seemed to reach his ceiling in the movie. The makeup job was good, if a little goofy in parts. I feel like he should've been noticeably physically larger than his group.
The Quicksilver scene was amazing. The DOFP scene was fantastic, and the scene in this movie is another step up. They'd be crazy not to give him another setpiece for the next movie.
The score was good, hearing some familiar themes (I think?) was welcome.
That's all I got.
The 80s setting was pretty cool to see, though I wish there was more to that mall scene. The "third movies are usually the worst" joke got a good laugh at my theatre. I'm glad that the 80s setting wasn't too distracting and in-your-face, that being said. It adequately familiarizes you to the time without beating you over the head with it.
The story isn't to the quality of past Singer X-Men movies and it drops off at a certain point, but it is definitely still enjoyable. Where it dips for me is when they were brought to Alkali Lake and Wolverine popped up. I don't have any problem with the cameo, more just how the entire Alkali Lake setting played out. Not really sure how I would do things differently, though.
The third act had Earth-shattering consequences, but I liked how it felt more personal and isolated.
Seemed like such a waste of a role for Fassbender when all they had him do was be sad and cry. His best scene was after his family's death, he returned to the factory and was ready to murder all of the workers, and when Apocalypse showed up, all he said was "Who the fuck are you?" - Otherwise, *looks sad* *sheds a tear* *looks sad again* - and eventually works with the X-Men.
I had such high hopes for Storm, but she didn't get to do too much in the movie. That being said, I saw her appearance in Apocalypse more as an introduction, and I'm hoping she has a larger role to play in the next movie.
Olivia Munn as Psylocke was generally inoffensive, and she gets a cool entrance for the showdown.
Angel = useless.
Mystique = could've been scratched from the roster, but I didn't mind her. Seemed like they had Jennifer Lawrence in the movie just to fulfill her contract terms. I think most of her scenes could've worked without her, or that other characters could've taken over for her scenes.
Apocalypse seemed like a serious threat, but he never really seemed to reach his ceiling in the movie. The makeup job was good, if a little goofy in parts. I feel like he should've been noticeably physically larger than his group.
The Quicksilver scene was amazing. The DOFP scene was fantastic, and the scene in this movie is another step up. They'd be crazy not to give him another setpiece for the next movie.
The score was good, hearing some familiar themes (I think?) was welcome.
That's all I got.
SuperStiltzkin
Member
He really lucked out with Magneto. I imagine he really wanted to trade when Jean, Nightcrawler, and Quicksilver showed up.
I didn't hate Jean in this, but even in a fight scene which was all around terrible, she stood out as hot garbage.
Everyone is fighting and doing stuff.. Xavier is mind fighting AND SHE IS THE ONLY OTHER PSYCHIC THERE. What does she do? "I'll stand here staring blankly at the wall until Xavier literally yells at me to help out."
Also, sorry if this has been discussed to death already, i only just got out the cinema. But wasnt the whole thing Olivia Munn had been saying before release that she was learning actual sword skills for the role?
Did they cut all her scenes out or did she learn a ton of stuff to end up using literally none of it in the film.
Everyone is fighting and doing stuff.. Xavier is mind fighting AND SHE IS THE ONLY OTHER PSYCHIC THERE. What does she do? "I'll stand here staring blankly at the wall until Xavier literally yells at me to help out."
They didn't really give a reason for the four followers. He should have went Pokemon master on them and collected everyone.
Also, sorry if this has been discussed to death already, i only just got out the cinema. But wasnt the whole thing Olivia Munn had been saying before release that she was learning actual sword skills for the role?
Did they cut all her scenes out or did she learn a ton of stuff to end up using literally none of it in the film.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
I enjoyed this movie a lot despite the obvious flaws, same for Batman v Superman so take that as you will.
Quicksilver scene was awesome, they have to keep going with him.
Hoping we get an X-Force movie with Psylocke, Deadpool and maybe Wolverine if he is up to it.
I don't care how but i'd kill to get Quicksilver in a movie with Deadpool.
Quicksilver scene was awesome, they have to keep going with him.
Hoping we get an X-Force movie with Psylocke, Deadpool and maybe Wolverine if he is up to it.
I don't care how but i'd kill to get Quicksilver in a movie with Deadpool.
Alx
Member
Yeah, that death was really weird. There's no drama, no real plot reason, no threat, it just kinda happens, and only Scott cares in the end. I'm not even sure what kind of explosive he hit with his beams to make the whole school explode.
The weapon x stuff was the worst fillery "this movie needs to be at least 30 minutes longer and needs a Wolverine cameo" thing ever.
Edit : don't get me wrong, it was good and probably the only good action in the whole film. But if you lifted it out of the movie it changes literally nothing.
Edit edit: given the quality of the movie, the " the third movie is always the worst" line was unintentionally hilarious.
Edit : don't get me wrong, it was good and probably the only good action in the whole film. But if you lifted it out of the movie it changes literally nothing.
Edit edit: given the quality of the movie, the " the third movie is always the worst" line was unintentionally hilarious.
IndoAssassin
Banned
Huh? What important role did he play in 1 & 2? All I remember was him being Xaviers bitch, strolling him around, getting gassed then turning into Stryker's bitch trying to kill Jean, then magically gaining his mind back to run like a bitch and cry like one over Jean.
In 1, he was Wolverine's bitch, and with all his training he couldn't hit shit with his eyebeam unless Jean guided it.
Because this fucking movie tried to explain things from the old timeline, that's why.
TheAquaticApe
Member
The whole theater cracked up at this part. It really did look goofy.
I thought it was pretty good.
Low expectations and all, but it had some good ideas and pretty good execution overall.
It had some really cool visuals, it was put together well, and they did a pretty good job of making a large scale X-Men movie.
I'm surprised, given that I thought DOFP was pretty poor.
Low expectations and all, but it had some good ideas and pretty good execution overall.
It had some really cool visuals, it was put together well, and they did a pretty good job of making a large scale X-Men movie.
I'm surprised, given that I thought DOFP was pretty poor.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
He seems way more powerful in this movie than he does in the comics, and his powers are even more vague. They mention that his power is that he can transfer his consciousness to other people and (I think?) every time he transfers he keeps the powers of all the other mutants he's transferred to so he's got a shitload of powers.
I mean it gave the new kids something to do on their own away from Mystique, away from Xavier, plus it's where they get the jet and their suits.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Pretty sure it didn't. What are you referencing?
PreFire
Member
Quicksilver definitely had the best highlights in the film. Best scenes (saving everyone but Alex and beating the shit out of Apocalypse for a second) and he had me cracking up. Raven tries to say she's not a hero, then everyone jumps in and says her speech changed their lives.. Emotional right? Lol that's when Quick Silver mentioned still living in his mom's basement, saying he's a loser lol.. Even the camera stops on Mystique and she's shaking her head lol
I thought QuickSilver had a speedster's healing factor though.. Dude was in a cast signed by the cast
I thought QuickSilver had a speedster's healing factor though.. Dude was in a cast signed by the cast
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
I liked whoever described it as "Apocalypse swipes right at the first four people he meets"
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