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[SPOILER THREAD] X-Men: Apocalypse
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Alx
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Oh yeah that was probably it. I don't know what kind of fuel Hank was using but that was probably overkill.
Thinking about it, the explosion is already silly as it is, but it would have been even worse had Quicksilver not incidentally been in the area.
"So Apocalypse just leaves with Xavier, and while trying to stop him Havok blows up the whole building and all the X-men are dead. The end."
Rice-Eater
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I saw it Friday and as far as enjoying the film goes, I think this is the most enjoyable time I've ever had watching a X Men movie. It's either this or X2. I see the flaws and the issues people have with it, but speaking as a regular guy I suppose all I can say is that I had fun watching the movie despite that.
As for Jennifer Lawrence, seriously I don't know if this performance or any of the past ones were suppose to be good or not. I just hate the fact that Mystique got pushed to the forefront. I don't want to watch a X Men movie about Mystique being one of the lead characters and possibly one of the leaders of the X Men in the future. Please shove her aside(along with Mags and Prof. X to a degree) and let the young characters take over the lead roles in the future movies.
As for Jennifer Lawrence, seriously I don't know if this performance or any of the past ones were suppose to be good or not. I just hate the fact that Mystique got pushed to the forefront. I don't want to watch a X Men movie about Mystique being one of the lead characters and possibly one of the leaders of the X Men in the future. Please shove her aside(along with Mags and Prof. X to a degree) and let the young characters take over the lead roles in the future movies.
Damn, Singer is fucking cold blooded. I feel bad for her too. They had an interview on Yahoo stating it was her first time auditioning for a movie too and how excited she was for it.... Q_Q
Wouldn't be the first time he cut out Jubilee from one of his movies.
TropicalFish
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That makes me so sad for her.
I wanted to see her showcase her powers in the movie so bad.
shinra-bansho
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Watched this today. It was alright. Felt like they tried to cram in too much.
I think Nightcrawler was definitely a plus. And Sheridan's Cyclops was alright.
Sophie Turner's Jean Grey was kind of meh.
The entire Weapon X sequence was entirely pointless. Like half the cast were literally just standing around in a room.
Apocalypse's horsemen were basically just visual effects. And really he was kind of just that too. On the whole I've always thought Apocalypse is a pretty shit villain though.
I think Nightcrawler was definitely a plus. And Sheridan's Cyclops was alright.
Sophie Turner's Jean Grey was kind of meh.
The entire Weapon X sequence was entirely pointless. Like half the cast were literally just standing around in a room.
Apocalypse's horsemen were basically just visual effects. And really he was kind of just that too. On the whole I've always thought Apocalypse is a pretty shit villain though.
I saw this last night and it was pretty decent, for what it was. Its interesting that they're using DofP to justify the timeline being different now, but I do kind of hope we'll revisit the original cast at some point.
I get that their DofP final scene was basically "don't worry guys, we're undoing that awful X3, it doesn't matter how/why"
I get that their DofP final scene was basically "don't worry guys, we're undoing that awful X3, it doesn't matter how/why"
SonicMegaDrive
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That wasn't really her fault though. She wasn't given anything to do.
I'd say it's the worst of the McCavoy/Fassbender trilogy but it's not terrible. It's not great either but it has some good moments but also some bad stuff.
Also can someone tell me what the post credit scene was about? I know next to nothing about the X-Men comics so that went over my head.
Also can someone tell me what the post credit scene was about? I know next to nothing about the X-Men comics so that went over my head.
Wait, Singer didn't even tell her?! She hadn't even seen the movie yet?!
... Oh man, now I feel really bad for making fun of Jubilee's screen time and lines in the movie.
Glass Rebel
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At least Jubilee talked, right? I don't remember Psylocke saying a single thing.
I mean, not that the dialogue was that memorable either but still.
I mean, not that the dialogue was that memorable either but still.
SonicMegaDrive
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They both get one or two lines each.
It's a shame, they were the two characters I was most looking forward to. Oh well.
She had some basic lines. I can't even remember what she said and I came out of a screening half an hour ago. So either the lines were that generic or my memory is awful.
This really makes no sense considering "the rogue cut"
If they dont release a "jubilee cut" they are really stupid
FUBAR McDangles
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Not really.
The Rogue Cut addressed some plot holes/inconsistencies while also bringing in arguably the main character of X1 and a major player in X2 and X3. It showed how the Sentinels tracked the X-Men to that temple, it showed how Wolverine was able to stay in the past after stabbing Kitty (her just powering through it in the original was a nice moment for her character, but not exactly logical). But most importantly it brought Rogue back.
A so-called Jubilee cut isn't likely going to fix anything that is bad about this film. She won't fix the pace issues in the middle of the film, or fix how the final battle was really lame, or fix how Mystique getting pushed to the forefront was an extremely odd story decision. She will just be in more scenes. She might be a minority fan favorite, but her fandom is nothing compared to what Rogue gets with both the comic community and the non-comic film fans.
That seems about right for Psylocke tho.
Yeah Olivia Munn next time time write your self a better script and hire a better director
brandonh83
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That stuff yeah, but she's definitely not a good actress.
In a movie like this who knows what she could have done given any kind of material to work with. Maybe she's really good in action movies but we will never know
The Elite
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I don't see how that was on her at all. She was told to stand on a rock most of the film.
Jubilee needs a Rogue cut. I actually want to see more footage of them hanging out at the mall too. They needed a bit more character building/bonding for the new group and less shots of random pieces of junk flying around the sky.
She was fine in The Newsroom.
The Elite
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This is just one of those superhero films that writes itself into a lot of corners due to the power level of the villain.
brandonh83
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Haven't seen it so yeah, to be fair can't really pass judgment.
thecouncil
Banned
How does it work with Quicksilver? He moves fast enough to freeze time but could throw people and they would move slowly through the air. So shouldn't everyone be moving at that slow speed? They seemed frozen until he interacted with them.
Everyone blew her out of the water with the acting. Even Caliban had more charm than she did. She's got as much expression range as Kristen Stewart.
Time is moving incredibly slow from his perspective. Things are still in motion as he's moving everyone out of the mansion.
That's kind of amusing. She turned down Vanessa in Deadpool because the character didn't have enough substance and chose to be Psylocke instead. Maybe they'll bring her back for another movie.
Seems like there's some setup for this at least, aka "ominous look and stomping exit."
When you get into it Psylocke is a pretty deep character, with a long and storied history. How she went from English royalty party girl to asian master assassin would be an interesting movie in itself.
Just needs a writer and director with the right mojo
Glass Rebel
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Man, I read Faraci's review and while it's full of hyperbole I can't help but agree with like 90% of what he said. Made me realize some things about it that I would have only noticed on a second viewing.
I guess both had so little to say, it could have gone either way.
I guess both had so little to say, it could have gone either way.
Killer Queen
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What was the post credit scene? I missed it.
MagnaderAlpha
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Weapon X's blood and x-rays taken by "men in suits", and put into a briefcase that says "Essex Corp.".
Alx
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I was convinced until the end that it would be a "Chekhov's gun" moment, and that in the end Magneto would turn around, collect all the nukes and throw them in Apocalypse's face (and somehow not destroy the planet while doing so
). I still think it would have been better than Jean entering God mode at the last minute ("oh we were never in trouble actually, Jean can handle everything on her own if she really wants to...")
entremet
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Interesting. Vanessa was way more interesting than Psylocke in this movie.
that's not exactly what she said. she actually meant she wants to play a bad ass ninja lady and not a damsel in distress prostitute
Watched it yesterday and had some fun, but the movie feels very messy, especially after reading about the Jubilee cut. Not sure how but I didn't even realize that she was in the movie.
I can't help but compare it with Captain America and get dissappointed.
All the subplots seem lost and don't really fit together with the overall movie. That scene in the military bunker with Stryker felt so strange, like that was the only thing the "goverments" did in the movie. During that part the characters stand still and talk too much and the location is oddly empty with only 2 rooms and dozens of corridors that lead to nothing. Wolverine reveal was nice but him going in on those soldiers felt very cramped and silly. Mystic and company reaction to his rampage is odd as shit too. I felt very lost in that part.
Quicksilver was the highlight for me, especially since I didn't see DoFP and his scene surprised me.
I can't help but compare it with Captain America and get dissappointed.
All the subplots seem lost and don't really fit together with the overall movie. That scene in the military bunker with Stryker felt so strange, like that was the only thing the "goverments" did in the movie. During that part the characters stand still and talk too much and the location is oddly empty with only 2 rooms and dozens of corridors that lead to nothing. Wolverine reveal was nice but him going in on those soldiers felt very cramped and silly. Mystic and company reaction to his rampage is odd as shit too. I felt very lost in that part.
Quicksilver was the highlight for me, especially since I didn't see DoFP and his scene surprised me.
You should watch DoFP
Bobby Roberts
Banned
We kinda went rounds on this already back on page 9.
I mean, not you and me specifically, but the thread in general on the subject of Olivia Munn's performance:
And yeah, as Icespide said, she didn't turn down Deadpool because she thought the role had no substance. She turned it down because she didn't want to play a whore if she could play a Ninja.
IndoAssassin
Banned
Just go with it man. At that speed him carrying those people would first of all require him to have almost infinite strength to hold onto them, they should pass out from the sudden G-Force, their bones should shatter from the sudden G-Force not to mention their insides becoming soup, the amount of force required for him to suddenly move at that speed would cause him to put a dent in the ground, the heat from the friction he creates with the atmosphere should incinerate everyone in the vicinity. I could keep going.
His mutant power is magic speed. But it makes for cool visual effects.
My main problem with the film as well. Other than that it was decent. If they're going with Sinister as the next villain though then it would have made sense for him to be the villain in this movie imo. Have Apocalypse pulling the strings from the shadows, have Phoenix take him out in the second movie, then make Phoenix the villain in the third movie. I liked Apocalypse much more than I thought I would. He's much more threatening than his appearance suggests and his dialog is suitably hammy. Overall an entertaining film.
H.Cornerstone
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I wonder how they are going to deal with Jean being so powerful. How can you make a compelling villain when Jean is the most powerful character?
Bobby Roberts
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Sinister's probably gonna be the villain in Wolverine 3, not the next X-Men movie - whenever that might be. I think the spinoffs are about to take center stage for the next few years.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
It's not so much Munn Defense (her not having shit to do and not really doing it isn't much of a defense) it's pointing out that her being a blank stare isn't really her fault. That's not what Psylocke should be, but your problem should be with Singer and Kinberg, since that's how they made her. Not with Munn.
It's not Lana Condor's fault Jubilee is a non-factor, either. I don't even know if she can act, this is her first movie. But I know this would be a terrible choice in performance to judge her ability since the director gave her nothing to work with in the final cut.
It's not Ben Hardy's fault Angel isn't shit.
That's not a Ben Hardy defense force.
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