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[JeremyEtcetera]

Official keyart is out:

Why not keep the trenchcoat design from Xenoverse?

Also, why would Trunks wear a scarf that's similar to Android 17 after witnessing what Android 17 did to his friends and family?

 

[Unspeakable Evil]

He is back...

Toriyama didn't forget everything.

 

[HeroR]

We don't really know anything about the Makaioshin other than they rule over the Demon Realm.

Sounds like being a demon is kind of a requirement to rule the Demon Realm, or a demon like being like Piccolo. Not sure Goku fills that.

 

[ElFly]

The grand unified theory of Goku Black

Spoiler

Goku fused with Pilaf

Who is a down on his luck Makaioshin

Then he teleports to HIFL and commands a bunch of demons for Mai to shoot at

Seriously, his ears don't look pointy-er than the regular Goku so I doubt it is a demon fusion. Weird potara could be relevant, or not.

 

[HeroR]

Why not keep the trenchcoat design from Xenoverse?

Also, why would Trunks wear a scarf that's similar to Android 17 after witnessing what Android 17 did to his friends and family?

He most likely did it because he wants people to know that this isn't Time Patrol Trunks (thank god).

 

[JeremyEtcetera]

He most likely did it because he wants people to know that this isn't Time Patrol Trunks (thank god).

I thought Time Patroller Trunks was a good concept(mess with time too much, be forced to protect it against others who might do the same) although the execution was a bit flawed.

 

[Dagobert Duck]

Is Kaio dead in Future Trunks timeline or is he still alive? He died when Buu died, right? So he should be alive....maybe Goku trained there and used Kaioken too much so it corrupted him so badly that he turned completly and got mad with power....his KI just took over and his lust for fighting....I mean we saw what Kaioken can do to Goku if not used right?

 

[Vex_]

He's a potara fusion of Goku and Gohan that goes crazy when Chi-Chi tries to seduce him.

Eeeewwww. That's hella incestuous bro.

 

[donkey show]

That's just how Goku's hair is drawn at certain angles.

Shh... stop using logic and believe.

 

[Sickboy007]

Eeeewwww. That's hella incestuous bro.

I call it unprecedented character development.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

Anyone noticed Future Trunks has two upward strands of hair that form antennas on his head? That looks pretty silly:

Thankfully he apparently restyles his hair after his arrival:

It would be nice if they keep the tradition of Future Trunks having multiple hairstyles (assuming enough time passes in this arc).

 

[Real Hero]

he's moving and disheveled thats why is hair is like that, it's not a style

 

[DragonSworne]

So what if Goku fused with his future/past self? Fusing with yourself could turn you evil.

 

[Unspeakable Evil]

Eeeewwww. That's hella incestuous bro.

To be fair if Bulma had her way Future Trunks would end up being his own father... Nope

 

[HeroR]

I thought Time Patroller Trunks was a good concept(mess with time too much, be forced to protect it against others who might do the same) although the execution was a bit flawed.

The problem is that time travel in Dragon Ball explicitly doesn't work that way, at least in the manga and anime. Going back to the past creates a new timeline, so some villain going back into the past and killing Goku as a baby won't change that Goku is still alive in most timelines. There will just be a timeline where Goku died as a baby. Stuff like Dragon Ball Online and Xenoverse changed this, by making the excuse of flawed time machines, so they can have an excuse to revisit storylines from the series in the name of protecting time.

With that said, I don't hate Time Patrol Trunks and do find his concept interesting. I just don't want crossover from video games in Super and want to see a different take for Trunks by Toriyama. Which will be interesting regarding Xenoverse, especially since in Xenoverse Time Patrol Trunks is supposed to be Future Trunks. Guess they have to retcon that in future games.

 

[Vex_]

Anyone noticed Future Trunks has two upward strands of hair that form antennas on his head? That looks pretty silly:



Thankfully he apparently restyles his hair after his arrival:



It would be nice if they keep the tradition of Future Trunks having multiple hairstyles (assuming enough time passes in this arc).

What? Those antennae are dope af!!? I like it! I hope he keeps it!

he's moving and disheveled thats why is hair is like that, it's not a style

Lol he is not moving in that 2nd pick. He is posted up.

To be fair if Bulma had her way Future Trunks would end up being his own father... Nope

Yikes! I remember that episode. G-good thing it was filler though. R-right?


...guys?

 

[Slaythe]

Personally, I said that already, but I can't give two shits about xenoverse 2 now that the real Trunks is back.

"woah Xeno Trunks wants to revisit his past (and completely irrelevant movie timelines)..." I don't give a shit. Give me a game with a good gameplay, a non useless roster, and all the new stuff from DBSuper in a proper story :/ .

As for Bulma, have you people not seen back to the future ? She would have realized something was off after the kiss ! No need to panic !

 

[DiipuSurotu]

I thought Time Patroller Trunks was a good concept(mess with time too much, be forced to protect it against others who might do the same) although the execution was a bit flawed.

That rule doesn't actually exist though. The Kai of Time simply needed an assistant.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Got bored.

 

[ElFly]

Got bored.

That's a nice Gohan you drew there.

 

[Real Hero]

Lol he is not moving in that 2nd pick. He is posted up.

he's still dirty and clearly been messed up

 

[Vex_]

I forgot a new xenoverse was announced. I hope the netcode is better. That is my main wish for xeno2. (XV2? Or XV-II)

 

[killertofu]

I keep looking at the keyart and my hype is just, omg. I haven't felt these feels in such a long time.

 

[Dennis]

So how many episodes until we see Trunks and Mai?

 

[ArchedThunder]

So how many episodes until we see Trunks and Mai?

Tomorrow is the last episode of filler, next week is when the new arc starts.

 

[Skii]

Everytime I don't check gaf for a day, there's always a new DB Super reveal!

Spoiler

I really hope they explain why Goku exists in Trunks' timeline. I don't mind it if Trunks managed to find new Namek and revived everyone on Earth killed by the Androids as well as reviving Goku (although I don't know if Goku's death is by "natural cause").

If that's the case, it does seem like Goku is tricked by an individual from universe 6 into wearing the earrings. He wouldn't know about them in that timeline.

Either way, I am so excited. This is the villain we've all been waiting for.

 

[JeremyEtcetera]

If it wasn't for the fact that the superwater makes the original person disappear, it would have made for a good long arc with the protagonists fighting each other. It also would have fueled fan debate on who could defeat who when not holding back on the heroes side.

 

[HardRojo]

A little bit disappointed they stuck with the blue hair, but I'm hyped as fuck so whatever. I hope this arc will be amazing.

 

[Vex_]

I keep looking at the keyart and my hype is just, omg. I haven't felt these feels in such a long time.

A little bit disappointed they stuck with the blue hair, but I'm hyped as fuck so whatever. I hope this arc will be amazing.

Yep. Im so hyped Im starting to feel like I need to start drawing again. This usually happens during periods of extreme hype.

 

[J-Rod]

Is the evil goku stuff supposed to tie in with the 12 universe tournament or is the new tourney a seperate arc that's supposed to come later?

 

[ArchedThunder]

Is the evil goku stuff supposed to tie in with the 12 universe tournament or is the new tourney a seperate arc that's supposed to come later?

Goku Black has nothing to do with any tournament.

 

[double jump]

Is the evil goku stuff supposed to tie in with the 12 universe tournament or is the new tourney a seperate arc that's supposed to come later?

It'd be cool if he crashed the tournament and proceeded to mop everyone.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

It'd be cool if he crashed the tournament and proceeded to mop everyone.

 

[SkywardBeam]

Is Kaio dead in Future Trunks timeline or is he still alive? He died when Buu died, right? So he should be alive....

Kaio died when Goku teleported to his planet with exploding Cell in tow. But as there were no Cell games in FTs timeline, yeas, Kaio should be alive.

 

[Bulzeeb]

That's a nice Gohan you drew there.

no, thats the twist, for reference

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1226897

also there might be spoilers in there so read at your own risk

 

[KingBroly]

As someone pointed out on reddit, Goku has

Spoiler

Pointy Ears like a Namekian

 

[ArchedThunder]

As someone pointed out on reddit, Goku has

Spoiler

Pointy Ears like a Namekian

No he doesn't.

 

[Ringo]

I'm willing to bet that to beat Goku Black, Goku has to become Goku White...

 

[A Pretty Panda]

Then they're either going to have to explain a ton of things for what we know to make sense or have multiple plot holes.

It's a time travel plot.

It's dragon ball.

It was inevitable.

 

[Kagari]

Nooo it has been said that this is the Trunks that we know. Kagaaaaariiiiiiiiii

I don't know why there's still some confusion around which Trunks this is when two magazines, a message from Toriyama and now a summary for the start of the new arc have all said it's the same guy from the Android-destroyed future.

 

[Host Samurai]

I wouldn't mind Future Dabura and Babidi being behind this as we don't know about Future Buu. Dabura should have had an entire saga to himself as a main antag.

Thinking about this what if Buu gets revived in the Future Timeline because of the power of Goku Black? Doubt it but fun to think about. So many possibilities for this timeline.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

I wouldn't mind Future Dabura and Babidi being behind this as we don't know about Future Buu. Dabura should have had an entire saga to himself as a main antag.

Goku Black turns around and a big, cursive "M" is seen on his forehead...

People would go apeshit.

 

[.shin]

I don't know why there's still some confusion around which Trunks this is when two magazines, a message from Toriyama and now a summary for the start of the new arc have all said it's the same guy from the Android-destroyed future.

I'm starting to see a pattern with how people digest information on this series

 

[A Pretty Panda]

I'm starting to see a pattern with how people digest information on this series

Some people also digest the series itself this way

 

[Kagari]

http://www.animatetimes.com/news/details.php?id=1464932927

This article says Goku Black's motivation is

Spoiler

to destroy the human race.

 

[Megalosaro]

So it's future trunks is a different one than the one from android saga, huh?

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

So it's future trunks is a different one than the one from android saga, huh?

No

 

[Megalosaro]

No

Unless they changed how time travel works, it has to be.

In dbz, going back in time and changing stuff doesn't affect that person's original timeline.

In dbz future trunks timeline, goku is dead, the dragon balls are gone ad he certainly wasn't chilling with mai

 

[Anth0ny]

http://www.animatetimes.com/news/details.php?id=1464932927

This article says Goku Black's motivation is

Spoiler

to destroy the human race.

HOW DIABOLICAL

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

Unless they changed how time travel works, it has to be.

In dbz, going back in time and changing stuff doesn't affect that person's original timeline.

In dbz future trunks timeline, goku is dead, the dragon balls are gone ad he certainly wasn't chilling with mai

As far as I'm aware they've already confirmed it's the exact same Trunks.