Don't mention it. If it's something you feel you must mention, do it after you get the job and pass any sort of probationary period. It's a red flag for people hiring.
If you mention dperession, that's all they'll remember.
Applying for jobs is exhausting and soul-crushing
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Don't mention it. If it's something you feel you must mention, do it after you get the job and pass any sort of probationary period. It's a red flag for people hiring.
If you mention dperession, that's all they'll remember.
Ah. That sucks. Like, it really sucks. Struggles with depression can be the most intense ones of people's lives and totally something worth being proud of fighting against. Bullshit stigma. But thanks for the heads up.
The "your weakness" question is not about your deep dark secrets or personal issues, it is about your weakness relating to jobs, and most people try to spin it anyway. "I try to do too much, bite off more than I can chew, but I am making an effort to be better", etc. etc.
It's definitely something to be proud of. But you have to imagine if they're trying to fit you in a box comparing you with the other candidates, you're the depressed guy. Not saying it's right, but that designation carries too many negative connotations compared to the guy who answered that his weakness is that he's shy, or the guy who fails because he tries to do too much.
Absolutely agreed. It should be seen as an example of showing tremendous strength and fortitude.
Unfortunately, employers do not want to hear the truth. I was asked about my weaknesses, and I was too forthcoming. Even though I explained what I learned from them and how I intended to improve moving forward, I have a very strong feeling that they were what cost me jobs I feel I was qualified to take.
Ultimately, I received a handful of offers after I started being less candid in my interviews.
ZackieChan
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I help game developers start their business all the time. But you're a chef? Not sure I'd be much help, but you can always pm me.
berserk_ftw
Member
Currently searching for a new accounting job in Hanover, as I'm moving there from Berlin in July.
Had a first interview about 2 weeks ago, of course they didn't want me in the end.
Soul-crushing is really fitting for this as you immediately get the feeling that you are not good enough and start doubting yourself.
So I have another interview on Monday and am nervous as fuck again. Never had too many interviews in my life so I kinda freak out before it.
The shitty way due to a lot of construction sites on the Autobahn and inside Hanover don't help either before the interview.
Had a first interview about 2 weeks ago, of course they didn't want me in the end.
Soul-crushing is really fitting for this as you immediately get the feeling that you are not good enough and start doubting yourself.
So I have another interview on Monday and am nervous as fuck again. Never had too many interviews in my life so I kinda freak out before it.
The shitty way due to a lot of construction sites on the Autobahn and inside Hanover don't help either before the interview.
Vicetrailia
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I plead for the day that I can get a real career job.
Roland_Gunner
Member
There are way too many variables to answer that. If its really important for the job or their is another candidate they like almost as much as you, then yes its possible. You just never know. I've lost jobs for things I didn't even remember coming up in the interview. That's why everyone hates doing them.
Roland_Gunner
Member
In most jobs, admitting that you deal with depression would be a very bad idea. I don't know about social work. Do you have any contacts in that field? I would discuss it with them before bringing that up in an interview.
No. Don't bring up medical issues whatsoever during interviews. It isn't their business until you've been hired and had to take time off for it regularly--and even then. The only real time it's relevant is if you need special accommodations due to the illness or injury.
As cruel and blunt as it may be, employers don't care about personal triumphs. They care about how you can do your job better and relating to clients is unfortunately not a metric many places care to track. Don't let that discourage you, though. It's one of those things that can help you do your job better! But they don't need to know the details.
If you do want to bring it up, say you've helped a family member that dealt with depression in the past. You helped them get out of a bad place and guided them to a happier existence.
It's lying but the gist is still the same; You have experience that other people might not have. That makes you valuable.
OriginofHysteria
Banned
Has anyone ever done a career change on here? I'm unhappy with where I am currently and I do want to move on to something else. If so, what have you guys done to change careers? How tough was it?
Well, I'm fucked. A job I was recommended for wanted to come in today for a psych eval. I thought that was going to be all today, so I wore a pair of khakis, a collared short-sleeve shirt, trimmed and shaped my beard and headed off.
Well, apparently, rhey are also doing the interview today.
So much for this job... It's a state position as a medical examiner for social security.
Well, apparently, rhey are also doing the interview today.
So much for this job... It's a state position as a medical examiner for social security.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
I have a question.
How long is it from application sent to interview?
I just want a rough number.
How long is it from application sent to interview?
I just want a rough number.
Anywhere from one or two days to a couple of weeks.
At least, in my experience with internships.
Sounds like me. August will be 2 years with no job since I graduated with a master's degree.
Depends on the job. Everything I have applied for has been 3 to 6 months. That's if I even hear anything.
Okay, so here's what happened.
I had two rounds of interview, one with one person and one with another.
The first one went swimmingly well. Had a detailed and substantial answer for every question and I seemed like a good fit.
Second one was a bit awkward. I wasn't sure how much in depth I should repeat myself, and the rapport was not on the same level as with the first one. But what I think I truly fucked up is the "Do you have any questions" part. I knew that I was supposed to, so I picked one.
In my statement for what my long term plan is, I said I wanted to work for the company, before hopping off to grad school, before again hopping back into the company with more education that I could contribute more. Seemed like a good answer to me.
So I asked "How long would you want me to work for before I would go to graduate school". Because I had one specifically in mind. They work with many different companies, so I envisioned I would still work at the company part time as I got my education. Except that school is far away. I mean, I did have alternatives. I could work more from home, or maybe I'd just go to a different grad program closer to the company. I course corrected it, but it was too late.
She just gave an awkward look of "Well, I don't know, as most people don't do that. Most people work here part time while they study. We'll want someone with long term commitment to the company, so we'd have to see whats available"
Such a stupid, obvious red flag that I should have avoided. I don't know if I totally crashed and suck my ship here, but it is one huge and obvious blemish on an otherwise stellar interview at the one company I really, REALLY wanted to work at.
They told me they might contact me about job openings, but I should also make sure to stay in touch with them. What I had wanted to hear was "We'll find if we can fit you internally, or otherwise we'll find a place with one of our clients for you.", since that implied an intention to get me a job. I'm trying to be optimistic about it, but....well, goddammit.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
My current timelines are...
Hospital Job:
3/29 Applied
4/12 Response
4/22 Interview #1
State Government Job:
4/04 Applied
6/01 Response
6/13 Interview #1
So... 3 to 9 weeks?
Shy Fingers
Banned
Back in March I left my job and moved to a new city with my fiance. In April I took a contracting position. From the sounds of it, my contract won't be getting ruined further at the end of this month. So I'm hitting the job hunt again.
Is it better to leave a gap in employment, or put I was a self employed contractor for 2ish months on my resume?
Is it better to leave a gap in employment, or put I was a self employed contractor for 2ish months on my resume?
Jzero
Member
For the current school district job i'm interviewing for:
Applied: 5/4
Testing: 5/24
Interview #1: 6/9
For my last job:
Applied: 7/1
Interview #1: 7/1
Interview #2 (Group): 7/15
Background Check: 8/1
Started working: 8/15
esmith08734
Member
The place I drove ten hours for yesterday called me. They want me to fill out a form and then they'll proceed with an offer. They ended the call with 'we look forward to working with you.'
Oh man. Won't assume anything..
Oh man. Won't assume anything..
Kaneda Shotaro
Member
So they gave me the start date of Monday (this coming Monday). I took the drug test, passed. They started the background check AFTER they gave me the formal offer in writing. They gave me the offer letter last Monday, started the background check Thursday. But...the background check still isn't finished and it's Thursday late afternoon and I start Monday. Is something wrong? Is it possible I could walk in Monday morning and they changed their minds? It's weird that the background check isn't done yet...
Jzero
Member
You shouldn't worry if you haven't done anything in the past. What type of drug test did they do on you?
You're crazy, 30 minutes to an hour is the max i'll drive
Congrats. You'll be alright. You sound like me a few weeks back.
Kaneda Shotaro
Member
Urine sample
esmith08734
Member
Well, I plan on moving to the area soon. I just had not yet so I had to commute. The company is a top company in the country, so I had to do it for the reason as well.
Good news: I've been given the job offer for the Digital Court Reporter position I applied for. Just need to finalize things next week, background check and so on, but otherwise I'm hired.
Bad news: I'm nervous. Does anyone know anything about this job? I described my skill set and experience, so I'm certain they wouldn't have hired me if they didn't think I couldn't do it, but I'd like to know a bit more about what my daily tasks would be.
Bad news: I'm nervous. Does anyone know anything about this job? I described my skill set and experience, so I'm certain they wouldn't have hired me if they didn't think I couldn't do it, but I'd like to know a bit more about what my daily tasks would be.
I would say a month and a half. But it can vary wildly.
A company made me an offer 2 days after they contacted me. Another time it took 2 years of on and off dinners and meetings/interviews with the owner. Never burn bridges, you never know. Develop relationships with the recruiters and HR. Maybe they'll be somewhere else in the future. Guess that's what they call networking and shit.
Also, because of a story I heard today... I would recommend everyone not quitting your current job before having a signed contract, in some countries an offer letter carries no legal obligation and shit can happen.
Typically any where from 1-14 days for entry level positions.
Similar for me as well, though just a bachelor's degree here.
I'm living at home with my mother and stepfather (no other choice, really), and I'm just so discouraged. I've cast such a wide net, applying for everything from minimum wage to things that I really have little chance at getting (might as well try, right?) and it'll be two years this August for me too. I've even applied to some of these places multiple times and I get nothing.
The few times I do hear back, I tend to get strung along. I'm so thankful to get a rejection at this point, since at least its a damned answer and I can move on.
I'm waiting on hearing about a general manager position thing right now, but its been long enough I'm starting to give up hope. And I just got a rejection for the second of three postings I applied for at an airport. I'll admit, I didn't really think I was going to get the airport ones, but it still stings.
I feel like such a failure.
fivepersondude
Member
As a recent grad I have been enjoying time with my daughter, while applying for jobs. Application time has been about 2 weeks so far, but man... the antsy feeling. Online applying sucks for me, I feel like it is hard to find a real job posting, one that isn't a 3rd party recruiter, I mean.
Anyone have any suggestions for good job sites? Computer Science, by the way.
Anyone have any suggestions for good job sites? Computer Science, by the way.
Certainly feels that way to me.
I took a college to career course in my senior year (for all the good it did me...) and I remember one session mentioning how little resumes are really read.
A lot of people just send out résumés without investigating the job, the posting, or the company.
You know, spray and pray. Cast as wide a net as possible.
ZackieChan
Member
I've done a few. From cook to animator (after animation school), then from laid-off animator to casino dealer (after 2 months of dealer school), then from casino dealer to lawyer (after 3 years of law school). I guess transitioning to lawyer was the toughest, since it took long and was expensive. But now I run my own solo virtual law firm and live as a digital nomad. It's awesome.
What are your degrees in? Is it possible to do freelance work/start your own business while looking for a more stable job in your field? Even if you have writing or other skills, you could make money doing something and call it a business. This gets something on your resume, instead of just looking for a job.
You've been banging your heads against a wall for years with no results. Maybe it's time to try something different?
Communications (specifically, journalism, but it fell under the COMM umbrella at my school, so I also studied PR and general communication stuff alongside a swath of journalism skills).
Yeah I'm trying to do some freelance stuff but its slow going right now. I'm trying to track down a number of my late father's contacts (he was a journalist too). Admittedly, I initially balked at the idea of using said contacts because I feared living in my father's shadow (he left some rather big shoes to fill), but I've come to realize it'd be better to live in his shadow and have a job, rather than be unemployed, heh.
Better late than never.
What`s worse is that some people send like 30 attachments when all we want are three references, a cover letter and a resume.
EverythingShiny
Member
It's looking like I'm going to have to relocate. I've been networking my ass off and applying for whatever comes up, but it's not enough to get an interview for the few positions that are open where I live, it seems. There are so many jobs in my field in Boston that it's looking likely I'll have to move there.
I'm in the process of revamping my resume - I've read nearly this entire thread and it sounds like gaffers who have done this in the past have seen good results. I've cut it down to one page and, after taking a look at 30+ job postings in my field, changed around some of the language to better fit what companies are looking for.
I had an interview yesterday (thanks to an acquaintance who also works there who introduced me via email) with a company in SF - it went really well, but at the end, the interviewer said she typically doesn't hire people who don't have 2-3 years programming experience even though I meet the other qualifications. She said I'd hear about a technical test, but nothing yet. So frustrating.
I keep getting excited about jobs/prospects and then so, so depressed and frustrated when I either don't hear anything or don't make it further than an interview (or, in the case of one potential internship, 4). As someone who suffers from depression, job searching is definitely taking its toll. :\
I'm in the process of revamping my resume - I've read nearly this entire thread and it sounds like gaffers who have done this in the past have seen good results. I've cut it down to one page and, after taking a look at 30+ job postings in my field, changed around some of the language to better fit what companies are looking for.
I had an interview yesterday (thanks to an acquaintance who also works there who introduced me via email) with a company in SF - it went really well, but at the end, the interviewer said she typically doesn't hire people who don't have 2-3 years programming experience even though I meet the other qualifications. She said I'd hear about a technical test, but nothing yet. So frustrating.
I keep getting excited about jobs/prospects and then so, so depressed and frustrated when I either don't hear anything or don't make it further than an interview (or, in the case of one potential internship, 4). As someone who suffers from depression, job searching is definitely taking its toll. :\
unholyrevenger72
Banned
For those of you that are American, aren't picky, and mostly dead inside the TSA is hemorrhaging employees.
Starting wage is 15.13
https://www.usajobs.gov/Search/?keyword=TSO&Location=&AutoCompleteSelected=
Starting wage is 15.13
https://www.usajobs.gov/Search/?keyword=TSO&Location=&AutoCompleteSelected=
TheBryanJZX90
Member
Huh interesting, never heard of digital court reporting, but google says you're kind of halfway between a videographer and a stenographer? It still seems like something that you would either already have training or that they would provide training.
The Broken Ska Record
Member
Are there any good sites for creative/graphic design/film listings? Even intern stuff would be okay. I've been using indeed.com and I found a site called The Creative Group.
InfiniteBento
Member
Andddd I didn't get the job.
brb gonna go die.
brb gonna go die.
link1201
Member
Sorry to hear that. I didn't get the job I was hoping for either. I'm not really looking forward to getting back on the horse yet. I'll probably start looking again Sunday
:/
Syphon Filter
Member
Never wait on anyone for an answer. Keep applying even while they get back to you.
Syphon Filter
Member
Indeed is solid and I use craigslist, believe it or not I get the most responses from craigslist. I got one gig that just ended from indeed. Those are my main two sources for applying but make sure you have LinkedIn, you never know who is looking.