Let me know what you find, this one is kinda in the back of my head.
G-Sync is the god-level gaming upgrade.
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Let me know what you find, this one is kinda in the back of my head.
scoobs
Member
If you're spending that much on a monitor already, you'll really be kicking yourself for not going for G sync.
I picked up an Acer Predator XB271HU, and can confirm that its the best purchase i've ever made. Holy shit Witcher and Overwatch look/run unbelievably good. Sitting next to my old 23" 1080p Acer monitor its like night and day. The image quality is pristine.
I picked up an Acer Predator XB271HU, and can confirm that its the best purchase i've ever made. Holy shit Witcher and Overwatch look/run unbelievably good. Sitting next to my old 23" 1080p Acer monitor its like night and day. The image quality is pristine.
Yup, if you're spending a lot on a monitor and not getting gsync/freesync then what are you doing...
I got one and it is a fine screen
Like the Benq XL2411z is a fine screen, got all the standard TN quirks.. but the 1ms and G-sync 180Hz benefit
But the internal speakers are absolute shit, the worst ones I have ever heard... so bad I almost suspect they are broken. But I don't really care to investigate since I never use them
G-Sync displays bring several features that fixed-refresh displays do not have. They are multiple displays in one.
- Fixed refresh mode as a standard display.
- G-Sync mode. Variable refresh driven by GPU output. No tearing or Vsync judder. G-Sync module constantly adjusts the voltage delivered to the panel pixels as the refresh changes, this prevents ghosting on objects in motion.
- ULMB mode. Fixed refresh with backlight strobing. Backlight is turned off in between each refresh interval. This is to avoid seeing the pixels shift between states and provides incredible motion clarity.
Aris Shadows
Member
I love it, I got mine not too long ago, maybe a couple months back.
Nyteshade517
Member
I wouldn't be using the monitor speakers anyway
I know people will go on the TN vs IPS vs whatever else argument but you say the monitor is good? I'd just be using it for normal everyday PC stuff and gaming (obviously)
Hey, everyone. I'm fairly new to specifics of monitors and their features, so I felt it is better to seek for help.
Two months from now I will be moving to Canada and, while I'll be bringing my PC, I'll buy a new monitor there. I think this is a great opportunity to go for a G-Sync one, but I have a few things I'd like:
- Aesthetically, as simple as possible. I'm not really into too shiny things;
- In terms of resolution, I'm currently playing at 1080p and I don't mind staying that way if I can keep 60 fps (will detail my rig below). Besides, I can downscale if my hardware allows it;
- I will be staying at someone else's house and, while the PC will be on my own room, it won't be my desk, so I'm thinking 24" max in terms of size. Also, something bigger will be harder to take with me after I move out;
- I don't know the advantages or disadvantages of specific panels, so I'm trusting whatever you all suggest here;
My rig is:
- i7 6700k;
- GTX 970 (I do plan on upgrading to Pascal next year);
- 16 GB RAM DDR4;
- Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 3;
People suggested me these two:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824160226
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4FT3UV5732
Like I said, I don't know the benefits of LCD, LED or others, so let me know which of these is better or if there's a better one I should look for.
Thanks in advance!
Two months from now I will be moving to Canada and, while I'll be bringing my PC, I'll buy a new monitor there. I think this is a great opportunity to go for a G-Sync one, but I have a few things I'd like:
- Aesthetically, as simple as possible. I'm not really into too shiny things;
- In terms of resolution, I'm currently playing at 1080p and I don't mind staying that way if I can keep 60 fps (will detail my rig below). Besides, I can downscale if my hardware allows it;
- I will be staying at someone else's house and, while the PC will be on my own room, it won't be my desk, so I'm thinking 24" max in terms of size. Also, something bigger will be harder to take with me after I move out;
- I don't know the advantages or disadvantages of specific panels, so I'm trusting whatever you all suggest here;
My rig is:
- i7 6700k;
- GTX 970 (I do plan on upgrading to Pascal next year);
- 16 GB RAM DDR4;
- Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 3;
People suggested me these two:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824160226
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4FT3UV5732
Like I said, I don't know the benefits of LCD, LED or others, so let me know which of these is better or if there's a better one I should look for.
Thanks in advance!
Xux
Member
I've been looking at this one for the PC I've been planning to build later this year. I kinda fear the lobotomy of getting used to playing with such a high frame rate after being almost exclusively a console gamer. I wonder if I'll become a different person unable to enjoy the things of my youth.
lol
flipswitch
Member
Did you overclock it to 165hz?
tbh, if you're thinking about getting a new high end card next year, I would just wait instead of spending 500$ for a tiny 1080p TN monitor. Perhaps get something cheap to hold you over and then upgrade to a high end monitor next year? There should atleast be some new Gsync monitors out by the time 1080 Ti/Titan 10 hit so the current line up will/should either be cheaper or you will get a higher spec monitor for the same money.
J
JoJo UK
Unconfirmed Member
Does anyone know how g-sync working when you are oversampling? I am able to send my 144hz Benq back to Amazon and get a replacement (having some issues). The replacement was going to get either a 1080p g-sync (Acer Predator XB240H) or a 1440p @ 60hz (Acer G247HYU), both at 24". My budget can't stretch to a 1440p g-sync. If however there is no ill effects to oversampling to 1440p on a 1080p panel I would just go for that. Currently running a 970 but will be picking up a 1080 in the next month or so.
DSR works fine, but you might get stuck with 60hz unless the game supports 120hz or more in its settings
Like, Overwatch supports 4k@170Hz, no problem
while a game like Borderlands 2 only dose 4k@60Hz since you can't change the refresh rate
Should work fine. Just avoid G-Sync + DSR + SLI as this isn't supported.
it works since a while back
Really? What GPUs are supported? DSR options never show up for me when G-Sync monitor is attached and I have two GPUs in the system. Even on the latest driver.
EDIT: looks like it should be working since revision 364.
Haha, I wouldn't think 1080p or 24" is tiny. My current one is 21.5" and I always stay at arms distance from the screen while playing on PC. Besides, like I said, while I will have my own room, it's not my house, so I won't be able to have something bigger. Also, I do think it's better for me to get a monitor this year and a better GPU next year and not both at once.
Should I go for one of the suggestions, the new ROG Swift 24" 1080p monitor that was just announced or something else?
This Dell was on sale this week. Anyone else jump on it?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=939724
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=939724
kitchenmotors
Banned
I assume TN panel, if it's the 27" 1440p you're talking about.
So, no way. Will never go back to anything TN.
Yeah it's the TN panel. I didn't want to spend the extra 400 dollars to get IPS.
J
JoJo UK
Unconfirmed Member
Thanks guys, I've started the return process on the Benq and went for the Acer one, should arrive at the start of next week!
What are the best options currently available that are over 30 inches? I've been using the Dell U3011 which is fine but I've been feeling like having a 980 Ti and a 60Hz monitor (even at 2560x1600) is kind of a waste. Haven't seen 120 or 144Hz displays first-hand but can only imagine. I wouldn't want to use a primary monitor that is smaller than what I currently have, but there doesn't seem to be a real clear answer after reading through this thread and the many other threads that have recently popped up on here about displays.
Seems like the best option is "keep waiting" because I can't find a large display that seems to check all the boxes (2560x1440 or higher, 120Hz or higher, G-Sync, larger than 30 inches) but figured I should post in here in the event I'm missing something.
Seems like the best option is "keep waiting" because I can't find a large display that seems to check all the boxes (2560x1440 or higher, 120Hz or higher, G-Sync, larger than 30 inches) but figured I should post in here in the event I'm missing something.
carterd1981
Member
Maybe look at the ultra wide gsync 34 inch monitors from Asus and Acer.
carterd1981
Member
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B016GNX4SE/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1465682605&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=acer+ultrawide&dpPl=1&dpID=51mQJFG71cL&ref=plSrch
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01C83BE6U/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1465682743&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=asus+ultrawide&dpPl=1&dpID=41TBAXA9ZIL&ref=plSrch
Those are nice, but seem to cap out at 100Hz unless I'm missing something. I feel like at a minimum I want to make the jump to 120Hz after so long at 60Hz, but would prefer 144Hz since that seems to be more standard today (though I know they're pushing towards 200Hz as well).
The Acer Predator XB271HU just dropped in price on Amazon by $100. Currently it's $699.
The lowest it's ever been was just $10 cheaper at $689.
Anyone have any thoughts on this monitor?
The lowest it's ever been was just $10 cheaper at $689.
Anyone have any thoughts on this monitor?
Not much else to say about it than what's been already said.
IPS, G-Sync, 144. The best you can pretty much get right now, barring the QA issues.
Dust-by-Monday
Member
Still doesn't help for frame spikes.
I think you'd still see a difference between 30fps, 45fps, 60fps and so on. Just because it displays every frame as soon as it's ready, doesn't mean it will be smooth.
What concerns me is consistency. I like to have 1 flat frame rate that holds the entire time... wether it be 30fps or 60fps... it just has to be constant.
I think you'd still see a difference between 30fps, 45fps, 60fps and so on. Just because it displays every frame as soon as it's ready, doesn't mean it will be smooth.
What concerns me is consistency. I like to have 1 flat frame rate that holds the entire time... wether it be 30fps or 60fps... it just has to be constant.
Donald Bubbins
Member
Okay guys I did it. I took the plunge and got a Asus ROG Swift PG279Q.
What are the key things I should be looking in terms of faults?
What are the key things I should be looking in terms of faults?
Backlight bleed mostly. Uniformity and dust under the screen could be prevalent. Might notice some IPS glow, which is normal.
Donald Bubbins
Member
If those things are an issue what are my options?
Play the panel lottery again by exchanging. Just hope you get a panel that is to your liking and don't worry too much.
Donald Bubbins
Member
Crossing my fingers guys
https://i.imgur.com/0V0GVFF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0V0GVFF.jpg
Chris_Rivera
Member
Yes, you want IPS. The color will be so much better. The only reason you would consider TN is if you absolutely must have 1ms response time. The best IPS displays are around 4ms.
daninthemix
Member
...or you don't want to spend upwards of 60% more.
6-bit TN and IPS yes, 8-bit TN and IPS no. 6-bit TN is what you will find in cheap monitors, many PC laptops and that is where its bad reputation comes from. Those displays often have shitty viewing angles, poor color reproduction and contrast. I would avoid them like the plague.
The Dell you mentioned comes with the newer 8-bit TN panels which after calibration have accurate colors, good contrast and much better viewing angles than their cheapo brethren. I have the ASUS PG278Q and moved from a Dell IPS display to it. I have been very happy with its performance for anything I've done. The display has a more limited gamut than most IPS displays but this is of no consequence for anybody but graphic designers or people doing photo editing. The sRGB gamut of the 8-bit TN panels is perfect for everything else as most content on the web or in games uses that color space.
While TN still has the edge in response times, IPS displays are getting very close so I would not rule those out either. For the absolute least motion blur you still want to use ULMB mode in games that run at 60+ fps.
Yes you still see/feel fluctuating framerates. So I like to see what my minimum framerates are in whatever game I'm running and just limit it to that with RTSS. Playing with a range of 30-60 is not good, but a smaller range like 40-45 feels fine.
Celcius
°Temp. member
So I returned my Asus MG28U 4k 28" TN monitor. The build quality was nice but the backlight bleed and color shifting made the the top left and bottom right corners look noticeably different on a solid background.
Plus, I started another playthrough of Borderlands The PreSequel on it and although 4k was amazing, the screen tearing was horrendous until I turned on vsync. It was at that moment that I realized that I didn't want to ever see tearing again... my next monitor will definitely have G-Sync.
Ironically I returned the asus on my lunch break and then when I got back to work, my new work monitor (Dell P2715Q 27" 4K IPS) was ready for me. I hooked it up and it looked soooo much better than the monitor I had just returned. No backlight bleed at all and the IPS screen looked much improved. I think IPS is a must have at that screen size to avoid color shifting across the screen.
Since I know I want my next monitor to be:
1. 4K
2. G-Sync
3. IPS
4. At least 27"
I'm considering the Asus PG27AQ next. It's $900 but seems to check all of the boxes. Any other suggestions?
Plus, I started another playthrough of Borderlands The PreSequel on it and although 4k was amazing, the screen tearing was horrendous until I turned on vsync. It was at that moment that I realized that I didn't want to ever see tearing again... my next monitor will definitely have G-Sync.
Ironically I returned the asus on my lunch break and then when I got back to work, my new work monitor (Dell P2715Q 27" 4K IPS) was ready for me. I hooked it up and it looked soooo much better than the monitor I had just returned. No backlight bleed at all and the IPS screen looked much improved. I think IPS is a must have at that screen size to avoid color shifting across the screen.
Since I know I want my next monitor to be:
1. 4K
2. G-Sync
3. IPS
4. At least 27"
I'm considering the Asus PG27AQ next. It's $900 but seems to check all of the boxes. Any other suggestions?
matrix-cat
Member
I've been playing with my new XB271HU for the last couple of days (ended up cancelling my original 270HU order and upgrading to the newer one for an extra $80AU), and I love this thing. To get the complaints out of the way upfront, I've got one stuck pixel, and the lower left corner of the screen is slightly lighter than the rest when I display a black screen in a completely dark room, but I'm really not bothered by either. Acer's warranty says they'll replace a monitor with any number of defective pixels for free within seven days of the purchase date, but I bought it online and only ended up getting it ten days later so I don't know if I'd be eligible. Honestly I just don't care enough to bother with the return process; I can only see it if I actually get up close and go hunting for it on a bright white screen, and considering this thing's going to spend 90% of its life displaying NeoGAF Dark it's not a problem 
Onto the good stuff: this is such a great upgrade from my eight year old 1920x1200 24" TN. No more colour gradient from the top to the bottom of the screen! The colours look great, though I'm still tweaking everything to get them perfect, and it's just so much more vibrant in general. Semi-gloss-ish screen looks great, the red bits on the stand aren't nearly as garish as I'd thought (almost a metallic maroon), it's got four extra USB 3.0 ports, you can make the Power LED turn itself off, you can overlay a refresh rate indicator on the screen; it's the best gift I've given myself in years.
As for G-Sync, I'm still trying to find a game that can actually take advantage of it. I'm planning on getting a 1070GTX as soon as I can get a good non-reference one for around $600AU, but for now I'm still using a 2GB 670, and all the games I own seem to be either old enough that I can max them out at 120FPS (apparently I'll need a newer card to actually get to 144+ on this monitor) or newer ones that won't get past 30FPS at 1440p. I played a bit of Witcher 3, and I saw a noticeably smoother 30-35ish FPS than I've ever seen before, though. Gotta have that 1070, though; this Founder's Edition nonsense can't blow over soon enough.
Onto the good stuff: this is such a great upgrade from my eight year old 1920x1200 24" TN. No more colour gradient from the top to the bottom of the screen! The colours look great, though I'm still tweaking everything to get them perfect, and it's just so much more vibrant in general. Semi-gloss-ish screen looks great, the red bits on the stand aren't nearly as garish as I'd thought (almost a metallic maroon), it's got four extra USB 3.0 ports, you can make the Power LED turn itself off, you can overlay a refresh rate indicator on the screen; it's the best gift I've given myself in years.
As for G-Sync, I'm still trying to find a game that can actually take advantage of it. I'm planning on getting a 1070GTX as soon as I can get a good non-reference one for around $600AU, but for now I'm still using a 2GB 670, and all the games I own seem to be either old enough that I can max them out at 120FPS (apparently I'll need a newer card to actually get to 144+ on this monitor) or newer ones that won't get past 30FPS at 1440p. I played a bit of Witcher 3, and I saw a noticeably smoother 30-35ish FPS than I've ever seen before, though. Gotta have that 1070, though; this Founder's Edition nonsense can't blow over soon enough.
I've been playing with my new XB271HU for the last couple of days (ended up cancelling my original 270HU order and upgrading to the newer one for an extra $80AU), and I love this thing. To get the complaints out of the way upfront, I've got one stuck pixel, and the lower left corner of the screen is slightly lighter than the rest when I display a black screen in a completely dark room, but I'm really not bothered by either. Acer's warranty says they'll replace a monitor with any number of defective pixels for free within seven days of the purchase date, but I bought it online and only ended up getting it ten days later so I don't know if I'd be eligible. Honestly I just don't care enough to bother with the return process; I can only see it if I actually get up close and go hunting for it on a bright white screen, and considering this thing's going to spend 90% of its life displaying NeoGAF Dark it's not a problem
Onto the good stuff: this is such a great upgrade from my eight year old 1920x1200 24" TN. No more colour gradient from the top to the bottom of the screen! The colours look great, though I'm still tweaking everything to get them perfect, and it's just so much more vibrant in general. Semi-gloss-ish screen looks great, the red bits on the stand aren't nearly as garish as I'd thought (almost a metallic maroon), it's got four extra USB 3.0 ports, you can make the Power LED turn itself off, you can overlay a refresh rate indicator on the screen; it's the best gift I've given myself in years.
As for G-Sync, I'm still trying to find a game that can actually take advantage of it. I'm planning on getting a 1070GTX as soon as I can get a good non-reference one for around $600AU, but for now I'm still using a 2GB 670, and all the games I own are either old enough that I can max them out at 120FPS (apparently I'll need a newer card to actually get to 144+ on this monitor) or newer ones that won't get past 30FPS at 1440p. I played a bit of Witcher 3, and I saw a noticeably smoother 30-35ish FPS than I've ever seen before, though. Gotta have that 1070, though; this Founder's Edition nonsense can't blow over soon enough.
That's the point of Gsync
Also on old games, activate ULMB and be amazed.
matrix-cat
Member
Oh I forgot it does that, too!
scoobs
Member
But of course.
Installed my Acer XB270HU yesterday(Amazing monitor, with no QC issues thus far) and Im just wondering about the options to setting up gsync. Should I turn gsync on in the control panel and turn off vsync? is there any negative impact to applying gsync for both windowed and full screen games?
Consensus afair is:
- Turn on Vsync in Nvidia panel
- Turn on Gsync
- Turn off Vsync in games
This way you will cap games at 144hz and have Gsync from 30-144hz (and frame doubling below 30).